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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 12:11:54 GMT
First question in PMQs was from Charlotte Leslie on the development asking the Prime Minister to help with Sainsburys. This country, fing hell. Our beloved H.C.gas, the Prime Minister is best mates with Lord Sainsbury, who still owns a significant part of the firm.....
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Post by Gashead on Jul 2, 2014 12:26:52 GMT
Our beloved H.C.gas, the Prime Minister is best mates with Lord Sainsbury, who still owns a significant part of the firm..... Phew, panic over then everyone!
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Post by Bath Gas on Jul 2, 2014 12:27:52 GMT
First question in PMQs was from Charlotte Leslie on the development asking the Prime Minister to help with Sainsburys. Fair play to her, she's doing her job - for years Bath re-elected an MP who never asked a single question in the House.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 12:53:04 GMT
Our beloved H.C.gas, the Prime Minister is best mates with Lord Sainsbury, who still owns a significant part of the firm..... Then why bring it up in public when a simple phone call would get to the bottom of it? Hard to understand Cameron's reply, was he threatening Sainsbury's or offering them incentives to complete? Either way, it looks like the delay is nothing to do with anybody being on holiday.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 12:59:52 GMT
Our beloved H.C.gas, the Prime Minister is best mates with Lord Sainsbury, who still owns a significant part of the firm..... Then why bring it up in public when a simple phone call would get to the bottom of it? Hard to understand Cameron's reply, was he threatening Sainsbury's or offering them incentives to complete? Either way, it looks like the delay is nothing to do with anybody being on holiday. What did our "Beloved" PM say Bamber ??
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 2, 2014 13:07:12 GMT
Meanwhile there seems to be a news backout as far as BRFC and their fans are concerned!
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Jul 2, 2014 13:08:21 GMT
hmmm people may be looking to wrong places for information, in desperation
Fans are asking Sainsbury's direct, Leslie's asking call me Dave, in the past fans ringing Secretary of States (plural), English Heritage, Ministerial Departments, and no doubt neg'ing them all off.
And all wouldn't be necessary if there was just some plain speaking from our owners giving unambiguous information, without breaching confidentiality clauses or commercial sensitivities.
A plc Board would all have been sacked by now for failing duties to share holders, the Board at my last firm made loads of announcements and kept people informed, despite being involved in mega contracts worth tens of billions, and managed to do so without breaching confidences or commercial requirements or annoying anyone by disclosing too much or too little. Shmae there are not stock market type rules for non listed football clubs..........
It really is a shambles
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 2, 2014 13:18:31 GMT
hmmm people may be looking to wrong places for information, in desperation Fans are asking Sainsbury's direct, Leslie's asking call me Dave, in the past fans ringing Secretary of States (plural), English Heritage, Ministerial Departments, and no doubt neg'ing them all off. And all wouldn't be necessary if there was just some plain speaking from our owners giving unambiguous information, without breaching confidentiality clauses or commercial sensitivities. A plc Board would all have been sacked by now for failing duties to share holders, the Board at my last firm made loads of announcements and kept people informed, despite being involved in mega contracts worth tens of billions, and managed to do so without breaching confidences or commercial requirements or annoying anyone by disclosing too much or too little. Shmae there are not stock market type rules for non listed football clubs.......... It really is a shambles Whilst we're kept in the dark I doubt that's the case with Cl if she's using PMQT, as she'd look a right plonker if Sainsbury's response was that it's all down to NH!!! What was DC's response??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 13:28:01 GMT
hmmm people may be looking to wrong places for information, in desperation Fans are asking Sainsbury's direct, Leslie's asking call me Dave, in the past fans ringing Secretary of States (plural), English Heritage, Ministerial Departments, and no doubt neg'ing them all off. And all wouldn't be necessary if there was just some plain speaking from our owners giving unambiguous information, without breaching confidentiality clauses or commercial sensitivities. A plc Board would all have been sacked by now for failing duties to share holders, the Board at my last firm made loads of announcements and kept people informed, despite being involved in mega contracts worth tens of billions, and managed to do so without breaching confidences or commercial requirements or annoying anyone by disclosing too much or too little. Shmae there are not stock market type rules for non listed football clubs.......... It really is a shambles Whilst we're kept in the dark I doubt that's the case with Cl if she's using PMQT, as she'd look a right plonker if Sainsbury's response was that it's all down to NH!!! What was DC's response?? Here you go Henbury and Topper, and the good news is Charlotte asks her question first so you don't have to sit through 30 minutes of grown adults acting like spoiled 5 year old and the clueless Wallace embarrasing himself again. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b048vrjs/prime-ministers-questions-02072014
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Post by basel on Jul 2, 2014 13:31:31 GMT
Charlotte Leslie live on Radio Bristol a moment ago: There are currently delays. The club is quiet on the situation. We understand that there are legal issues to be resolved. Other things need to be talked through and worked out. Glad somebody has spoken up.I called Charlottes Bristol office yeatersay,but the person I spoke to knew nothing. So Higgs isn't talking about it then. Great.
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Jul 2, 2014 13:34:05 GMT
hmmm people may be looking to wrong places for information, in desperation Fans are asking Sainsbury's direct, Leslie's asking call me Dave, in the past fans ringing Secretary of States (plural), English Heritage, Ministerial Departments, and no doubt neg'ing them all off. And all wouldn't be necessary if there was just some plain speaking from our owners giving unambiguous information, without breaching confidentiality clauses or commercial sensitivities. A plc Board would all have been sacked by now for failing duties to share holders, the Board at my last firm made loads of announcements and kept people informed, despite being involved in mega contracts worth tens of billions, and managed to do so without breaching confidences or commercial requirements or annoying anyone by disclosing too much or too little. Shmae there are not stock market type rules for non listed football clubs.......... It really is a shambles Whilst we're kept in the dark I doubt that's the case with Cl if she's using PMQT, as she'd look a right plonker if Sainsbury's response was that it's all down to NH!!! What was DC's response?? basically he'd been to Brizzle, knows it massively important for area, jobs and also us, and hopes Sainsbury's crack on.......
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Post by RG2 Gas on Jul 2, 2014 13:39:58 GMT
Come along people, I've been assured on Twatter that there's nothing to worry about, this is just a delay due to TRASH and Carstairs. These things take time you know. Absolutely ALL contractual talk had to go on hold until the whole Carstairs thing was resolved. Didn't you read the EGM minutes? There are 5 parties to agree legal contracts with and of course that will take time. Those cads in TRASH and EH are causing this. Nothing to see here. Move along.
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Post by aghast on Jul 2, 2014 13:46:29 GMT
I chuckled a little at the way Cameron said:
"Not only will this mean a new home for Bristol ....[HESITATE - CHECK BRIEFING NOTES]....Rovers".
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Post by PeterHooper57 on Jul 2, 2014 13:55:38 GMT
If Sainsburys were going to stay in the Project then they would have released a statement as soon as the letter from the MPs had been received. The whole fiasco has been badly managed by the BOD, putting trust in place with Sainsburys without a fomal memorandum of understanding is a school boy error. Do you have evidence that there is NOT a formal memorandum of Understanding ?? If there is one, is this a sign the project is run very well ?? As I recall Higgs said following the spat with the librarian, something like "agreements needed to be finalised, and all things were good to go"; however, it now appears Sainsburys are not so keen to sign the formal Contracts, probably looking to either renegotiate the deal and / or walk away. So leads me to think Nick did not negotiate a MOU, in any event something must be going down the ********; or why would the MPs feel the need to send a letter to Sainsburys ? and where the ***** is our leader when you need a comment ? "Just saying" UTG
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 2, 2014 14:00:21 GMT
hmmm people may be looking to wrong places for information, in desperation Fans are asking Sainsbury's direct, Leslie's asking call me Dave, in the past fans ringing Secretary of States (plural), English Heritage, Ministerial Departments, and no doubt neg'ing them all off. And all wouldn't be necessary if there was just some plain speaking from our owners giving unambiguous information, without breaching confidentiality clauses or commercial sensitivities. A plc Board would all have been sacked by now for failing duties to share holders, the Board at my last firm made loads of announcements and kept people informed, despite being involved in mega contracts worth tens of billions, and managed to do so without breaching confidences or commercial requirements or annoying anyone by disclosing too much or too little. Shmae there are not stock market type rules for non listed football clubs.......... It really is a shambles They have informed us when there has been something to inform. If they are not allowed to go into details then they can't. They said there were 5 issues to be dealt with, however, they can't talk about those issues. Is that not an update??? Not sure what you want them to say.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 2, 2014 14:04:41 GMT
Do you have evidence that there is NOT a formal memorandum of Understanding ?? If there is one, is this a sign the project is run very well ?? As I recall Higgs said following the spat with the librarian, something like "agreements needed to be finalised, and all things were good to go"; however, it now appears Sainsburys are not so keen to sign the formal Contracts, probably looking to either renegotiate the deal and / or walk away. So leads me to think Nick did not negotiate a MOU, in any event something must be going down the ********; or why would the MPs feel the need to send a letter to Sainsburys ? and where the ***** is our leader when you need a comment ? "Just saying" UTG How many times do people need to be told he is NOT allowed to comment on contractual issues! The MP's sent the letter for good publicity for them, they know the same as us as they can't be told anything either.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 2, 2014 14:10:26 GMT
As I recall Higgs said following the spat with the librarian, something like "agreements needed to be finalised, and all things were good to go"; however, it now appears Sainsburys are not so keen to sign the formal Contracts, probably looking to either renegotiate the deal and / or walk away. So leads me to think Nick did not negotiate a MOU, in any event something must be going down the ********; or why would the MPs feel the need to send a letter to Sainsburys ? and where the ***** is our leader when you need a comment ? "Just saying" UTG How many times do people need to be told he is NOT allowed to comment on contractual issues! The MP's sent the letter for good publicity for them, they know the same as us as they can't be told anything either. All the club have to say is that everything is water tight and nothing will stop us going ahead with the stadium
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Post by brizzle on Jul 2, 2014 14:12:44 GMT
There is a lot of knock on projects connected with the stadium,thats where the interest from the MP's is coming from,they may have asked our chairman what was holding things up now,and were told Sainsbury's signing the contract,so they have asked them Exactly right in my opinion. You only have to read the article to see what other projects are aligned with the new stadium, which of course are of real interest to local politicians. The problem is that if the stadium fails to materialise, then these other projects are immediately under threat. The stadium is merely a conduit as far as the local MPs are concerned. From the article . . . "Bristol is in desperate need of an arena fit for the 21st century. Such a ground would not only benefit Bristol Rovers FC, but also the university and wider business community across the South West.
“The plans include provision for a 1,000 seat conference centre which will raise the profile of Bristol as a cultural and commercial hub for the region. Other benefits the stadium will bring include the creation of many long-term job opportunities for people working in and around the stadium, as well as providing a boost for local suppliers and construction firms during the building phase. This development also unleashes land for much-needed housing, and is a very significant boost for the business case for enhanced local railway, which impacts all of our constituencies.
“Given the congestion in the area that is likely with other additional projected developments, were this rail enhancement and re-opening of old passenger line and stations not to take place, the Sainsbury's and stadium package also helps prevent traffic gridlock at Junction 17 of the M5 from becoming a 'tourniquet' to the rest of the South West.
"Because of the obvious importance of these plans to our city, we write not only to welcome this development, but, given the delay already suffered, urge you to conclude any last remaining elements of this agreement with Bristol Rovers FC as soon as possible.”
"As we are sure you will understand, this will not only provide peace of mind for the football club at what is a very emotional time in the club’s history, but will also do likewise for the university, local councils and the broader region and business community across the South West.
I believe that the first and last paragraphs make the point perfectly . . . and isn't it pleasant to see MPs all of party's coming together for the good of the local community. It might tell you how important the matter is, eh?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 14:13:10 GMT
How many times do people need to be told he is NOT allowed to comment on contractual issues! The MP's sent the letter for good publicity for them, they know the same as us as they can't be told anything either. All the club have to say is that everything is water tight and nothing will stop us going ahead with the stadium
in a roundabout sort of way has he not said that by his actions ??
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 2, 2014 14:17:45 GMT
All the club have to say is that everything is water tight and nothing will stop us going ahead with the stadium
in a roundabout sort of way has he not said that by his actions ?? Every time he has said we are hoping to start this year, we just have a few contractual issues to sort. Does that not say everything is water tight?? You can never say 100% it will start as you never know what will happen in life.
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