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Post by Gwengers on Jun 30, 2014 23:11:21 GMT
This is how it happens.
Many fans are rightly still furious at what has gone on at this club. The signings so far are fine - nothing to get excited about and our squad is a long way off what we were promised which was to have a squad in place at the start of pre-season. The board is a shambles, they pre-vet every question asked of them.
Heres a question, how in the world of cunting f**k is Watola in a job?
The fans will turn up and gradually become accustomed to the idea of being a conference club due to posts like these, where people think we should simply accept the dross that has been served up and the gentle slide to obscurity.
Dross thread.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 1, 2014 1:22:06 GMT
This is how it happens. Many fans are rightly still furious at what has gone on at this club. The signings so far are fine - nothing to get excited about and our squad is a long way off what we were promised which was to have a squad in place at the start of pre-season. The board is a shambles, they pre-vet every question asked of them. Heres a question, how in the world of ing f is Watola in a job? The fans will turn up and gradually become accustomed to the idea of being a conference club due to posts like these, where people think we should simply accept the dross that has been served up and the gentle slide to obscurity. Dross thread. Totally agree. The tinters have not helped in the last five seasons on particular. We need realism and not happy Clappy BS
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Post by beaver132 on Jul 1, 2014 2:59:56 GMT
I pledge not to write anything negative from now on which will mean accepting what had happened to the club I've supported since 1977. If you can accept (& look forward) to being a non-league club playing at **** grounds in front of 1,000 fans then good luck to you! I for one am still mightily angry that the football club were arrogant enough to think relegation wouldn't happen and that we didn't even have a plan if it did! The players responsible for our demise are all but gone, and been replaced by mid-table non-league players! My expectations and excitement levels are now non-existant. I hope Rovers are successful next season and regain their spot in the Football League. I won't be at the Play-Off or FA Trophy finals!!! I dont like the fact we are non league. I don't have to like the fact that our bod seem incapable of sensible decision making. I too have supported this club since about 1969 /70. I certainly don't look forward to non league, but, we are where we are. Its not our fault, as fans. But it will be our fault if we don't give the team our support. That's our remit as fans. I don't mean unswerving non critical support, but support non the less. I don't see that support from some posters, I see negativity. That, my friend, is unjustified when a ball has yet to be kicked. The doom mongers may be right, they may be wrong, all I'm saying is, let's at least give support to a young manager and a fairly new squad and let them do enough to retain that support.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 1, 2014 4:37:05 GMT
On the player front, i rhink some need to tone it down. Personally i dont have much of an opinion on the signings as i have seen or know nothing of them
I am not sure who some people expect non league Bristol Rovers to. sign.
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Post by dinsdale on Jul 1, 2014 5:10:25 GMT
I think there is a healthy mix of views as shown by this thread. I dont blame people for feeling negative after all we have not had the answers we want. Cant agree with slagging off the squad as its not complete yet.
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Jul 1, 2014 5:40:23 GMT
This is how it happens. Many fans are rightly still furious at what has gone on at this club. The signings so far are fine - nothing to get excited about and our squad is a long way off what we were promised which was to have a squad in place at the start of pre-season. The board is a shambles, they pre-vet every question asked of them. Heres a question, how in the world of ing f is Watola in a job? The fans will turn up and gradually become accustomed to the idea of being a conference club due to posts like these, where people think we should simply accept the dross that has been served up and the gentle slide to obscurity. Dross thread. Totally agree. The tinters have not helped in the last five seasons on particular. We need realism and not happy Clappy BS We all want realism KP, I'm not a tinter, but for heavens sake let's give DC squad a chance, and as for being 'underwhelmed' which is the new buzz word on this forum, let's give the players and managers a chance, he's signed a better mix of youth and experience than JW did last season IMO
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Jul 1, 2014 7:08:27 GMT
I have no opinion on the squad. As I said on another thread, I am neither happy or unhappy with it. They have to prove to me THIS season that they are good enough to wear the quarters. I don't see that as a negative, I see that as a realistic challenge to the players.
I don't think having a go at those who are underwhelmed is right either. You only have to look at what we have been through over the past few years to understand why they feel like this! The only remedy for this is for the team to perform on the pitch. SteveK got it spot on last season with his assessment of the squad. He said it was not good enough yet he was absolutely slaughtered for being a negative fan. We can only call it how we see it, even those with views that are deemed negative.
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Post by sheldongas on Jul 1, 2014 7:51:21 GMT
I agree totally with poster. The negativity / constant moaning will end up killing this club. Any potential player reading this forum will run a mile. Great fans my arse.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 8:26:25 GMT
i know a lot of people are angry with the board but allowing that to spill over to new players joining the club just isnt right. some of the dismissive and sniping comments against the 5 new players beggar belief frankly, to those people i would say yes stand by your disgust at the board but give the manager,the coaches and the players full support and dont dismiss there ability, think about our tradition of signing non league players and selling them on for large fees
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 1, 2014 8:38:52 GMT
Totally agree. The tinters have not helped in the last five seasons on particular. We need realism and not happy Clappy BS We all want realism KP, I'm not a tinter, but for heavens sake let's give DC squad a chance, and as for being 'underwhelmed' which is the new buzz word on this forum, let's give the players and managers a chance, he's signed a better mix of youth and experience than JW did last season IMO It's not our manager I am that bothered about Nick. I hunk we have clearly shown that we have tried nearly every sort of manager but when they come here it goes tits up. I'm afraid we will have the same end result with the same approach. If we do not have some clarity and a true mission statement and footballing ethos then I feel we are destined to repeat the same things over again. You know it's a well founded fear mate. Right now I fear we are going to lose 3 more players and have inadequate numbers. This will lead to using the callow youth again.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 1, 2014 8:47:05 GMT
I have no opinion on the squad. As I said on another thread, I am neither happy or unhappy with it. They have to prove to me THIS season that they are good enough to wear the quarters. I don't see that as a negative, I see that as a realistic challenge to the players. I don't think having a go at those who are underwhelmed is right either. You only have to look at what we have been through over the past few years to understand why they feel like this! The only remedy for this is for the team to perform on the pitch. SteveK got it spot on last season with his assessment of the squad. He said it was not good enough yet he was absolutely slaughtered for being a negative fan. We can only call it how we see it, even those with views that are deemed negative. SteveK is very perceptive and really know his stuff. He had it nailed on right from the start if the season and before. He is well worth reading and taking heed of. I learned that by not taking what he said seriously. He knows his stuff
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Post by jozer on Jul 1, 2014 8:52:02 GMT
Come on then rose tinters! Jolly us all up!
I certainly won't be turning on DC or the players. Besdt of luck to them. I know exactly where the problem lies and it ain't there.
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Post by irishrover on Jul 1, 2014 9:20:00 GMT
Frankly, I think we've reached the point now (2 relegation's in 4 seasons and 15 years of relative decline) that the club is no longer getting the benefit of the doubt from a lot of supporters - I think this is the point.
When you see the same mistakes being made time after time again and no accountability taken by the people at the top for those mistakes then it makes it quite hard to have much optimism for anything much that is done - particularly at this time of year when the same lines are trotted out. It is clear that we have consistently set managers up to fail. I think the fact is most people are now in the position where they are no longer just going to put on a happy smile and support the team without some evidence that a clear plan of improvement is in place.
I have nothing against any of the signings but the very fact that we are reduced to signing guys from Salisbury City as a main plank of our recruitment strategy is something I find incredibly depressing and the idea that I can get excited about this is fantasy land. I'm not underwhelmed by the players - I'm underwhelmed by the whole situation. The club has failed massively and does not seem to have noticed this - therefore drumming up enthusiasm and blind support is not really on the cards right now. I need to see clear evidence of progress this time around not just a collection of signings and a rallying cry of 'get behind the boys'. Won't cut it this time I'm afraid - I want acceptance of the mess we're in, signs that lessons have been learned and a clear vision and plan going forward beyond a 'lets pray Sainsbury's don't pull out of the Mem'. There is no strategy - just the standard 'the manager is magic' approach; the manager wonderful and we should back him to the hilt until he isn't and can carry the can for when it all goes wrong. I am utterly fed up with this headless chicken approach that has failed time and time again.
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Post by Wreckless on Jul 1, 2014 9:20:31 GMT
While people may be tired of the negativity, I doubt whether any of us are feeling positive about the situation.
How can I change things? Perhaps by expressing my views (although I accept that this may be a long shot). The club doesn't respond to e-mails (not mine anyway). The club has closed down the Official Forum, because it doesn't like the views expressed. Where else can I express my views? On an independent forum - so here I am.
I am tired of the current batch of rose-tinters, although I accept that they have a perfect right to express their views on an independent forum such as this (Indeed, I have occasionally been a rose-tinter myself in the past). I have a right to my opinion, and don't see why I should stop expressing it just because some people are tired of "negativity".
Get real - Negativity is hardly a surprise at the moment. I'll spare you the reasons - a list that is lengthening every day.
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Post by PeterHooper57 on Jul 1, 2014 9:55:48 GMT
I pledge not to write anything negative from now on which will mean accepting what had happened to the club I've supported since 1977. If you can accept (& look forward) to being a non-league club playing at **** grounds in front of 1,000 fans then good luck to you! I for one am still mightily angry that the football club were arrogant enough to think relegation wouldn't happen and that we didn't even have a plan if it did! The players responsible for our demise are all but gone, and been replaced by mid-table non-league players! My expectations and excitement levels are now non-existant. I hope Rovers are successful next season and regain their spot in the Football League. I won't be at the Play-Off or FA Trophy finals!!! I absolutely agree with ever word. However, nothing the rose tinters say, will not stop me going to every game home and away next season. Do I think Darrel Clarke is all that ?, no I dont, but I will continue to support BRFC and form my own opinons.
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Post by gasheadblues on Jul 1, 2014 9:56:46 GMT
I agree totally with poster. The negativity / constant moaning will end up killing this club. Any potential player reading this forum will run a mile. Great fans my arse. Agreed. The constant negativity is damaging and does nothing to help our club. I also agree with KP that we need realism but all too often any news is just twisted around to bash the board/managers/players/club with.
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Post by Clevedon gas mk 2 on Jul 1, 2014 10:06:37 GMT
My first post!!! Agree completely!!!!
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Jul 1, 2014 10:11:20 GMT
I have no opinion on the squad. As I said on another thread, I am neither happy or unhappy with it. They have to prove to me THIS season that they are good enough to wear the quarters. I don't see that as a negative, I see that as a realistic challenge to the players. I don't think having a go at those who are underwhelmed is right either. You only have to look at what we have been through over the past few years to understand why they feel like this! The only remedy for this is for the team to perform on the pitch. SteveK got it spot on last season with his assessment of the squad. He said it was not good enough yet he was absolutely slaughtered for being a negative fan. We can only call it how we see it, even those with views that are deemed negative. SteveK is very perceptive and really know his stuff. He had it nailed on right from the start if the season and before. He is well worth reading and taking heed of. I learned that by not taking what he said seriously. He knows his stuff I don't know the bloke but it is clear that he had no agenda with any player. He just called it as he saw it and just wanted/wants the club to do well. Steve, if you are out there, I would certainly be interested to know what you think about our current situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 14:52:35 GMT
Maybe the 1999- 2000 one with Roberts, Cureton, Penrice, Walters et al ? that nearly took us into The Championship ? Indeed A promotion denied by the fact that one crucial midfield player was not replaced after breaking his leg, which led to discontent in the squad as key players then came to the conclusion that this club was going nowhere and wanted out. Thats rubbish,Les,the club had no money left for a marquee signing,and who was to know the influence Cyril Regis would have in the closing 6 weeks on Cureton and Roberts,but dont let facts get in the way of a rant
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 14:54:42 GMT
On the player front, i rhink some need to tone it down. Personally i dont have much of an opinion on the signings as i have seen or know nothing of them I am not sure who some people expect non league Bristol Rovers to. sign. Steady,Simon,you are talking sense thats not allowed
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