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Post by upminstergas on Nov 14, 2014 15:27:53 GMT
There simply is no pleasing some people. Give the guy a break ffs. Could I suggest that instead of taking some of my comments and using them out of context, that you read all of my posts on this thread. I'm quite certain that if you do, and do so with an open mind, then you will agree that your post is wide of the mark I've re-read all of your posts and i don't think i'm wide of the mark, DC has attempted to clarify his position but you and others can't simply take what he says at face value. If i've misinterpreted your thoughts on the subject, i apologise.
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Post by brizzle on Nov 14, 2014 15:43:53 GMT
Could I suggest that instead of taking some of my comments and using them out of context, that you read all of my posts on this thread. I'm quite certain that if you do, and do so with an open mind, then you will agree that your post is wide of the mark I've re-read all of your posts and i don't think i'm wide of the mark, DC has attempted to clarify his position but you and others can't simply take what he says at face value. If i've misinterpreted your thoughts on the subject, i apologise.Apology accepted. Oh, and by the way here is a quote from me further up the page . . .
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Post by bluebeard on Nov 14, 2014 16:03:08 GMT
This thread is great! IMHO most fans will continue to do what they always do. Some show unconditional love, some unconditional hatred. But most will simply react to what they see in front of them. Am I the only one who hasn't given DC's comments a second thought? He must know that expectation is high and patience is low. It's the same at any club but magnified here by years of underachievement. He would have known that when he took the job. I suspect he has offended the lovers and provoked the haters but the rest of us just want a win tomorrow.
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Post by upminstergas on Nov 14, 2014 16:21:36 GMT
I've re-read all of your posts and i don't think i'm wide of the mark, DC has attempted to clarify his position but you and others can't simply take what he says at face value. If i've misinterpreted your thoughts on the subject, i apologise.Apology accepted. Oh, and by the way here is a quote from me further up the page . . . Oh, and by the way, I didn't accuse you of being critical of unsupportive of DC, i suggest you read my post again.
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 14, 2014 16:27:29 GMT
Awful lot of post reading going on!
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Post by bluebeard on Nov 14, 2014 16:27:43 GMT
With the rumours flying around at the moment about players coming or not and the lack of BoD backing, I am beginning to wonder if DC is now looking to get out? Blame the fans, lack of support etc etc He can't attack his employer so where else does he look. The thugs are providing him with a way out. I don't understand your point. Why does he need an excuse to leave? If he doesn't like the job and what comes with it, he can simply quit and apply for another one. His next employer will be interested in his reasons for leaving but its not like he has to publicly validate them to be believed. If you're suggesting he is trying to get a "left by mutual consent" surely he would be better off criticising the board than the fans? It's definitely possible to challenge your employer without giving them grounds for summary dismissal. Either way, recruitment of a prolific goal scorer is always going to be difficult for a conference club manager on a limited budget. Our fans do have high expectations and little patience because we all believe we should be competing at a higher level. We have a point but so does he, because our demise is not down to the current group of players. Anyway, a good win tomorrow and all will be forgotten ... until our next nil nil draw with Pubteam AFC.
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Post by dagnogo on Nov 14, 2014 16:32:39 GMT
The idea that Clarke's trying to get out is silly really.
If he fails here, and leaving now would constitute failure, he'd not get a managerial job again.
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Post by brizzle on Nov 14, 2014 16:40:25 GMT
Apology accepted. Oh, and by the way here is a quote from me further up the page . . . Oh, and by the way, I didn't accuse you of being critical of unsupportive of DC, i suggest you read my post again. Does that mean that you are withdrawing your apology?
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Post by upminstergas on Nov 14, 2014 16:46:10 GMT
Oh, and by the way, I didn't accuse you of being critical of unsupportive of DC, i suggest you read my post again. Does that mean that you are withdrawing your apology?
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 14, 2014 17:34:10 GMT
With the rumours flying around at the moment about players coming or not and the lack of BoD backing, I am beginning to wonder if DC is now looking to get out? Blame the fans, lack of support etc etc He can't attack his employer so where else does he look. The thugs are providing him with a way out. I don't understand your point. Why does he need an excuse to leave? If he doesn't like the job and what comes with it, he can simply quit and apply for another one. His next employer will be interested in his reasons for leaving but its not like he has to publicly validate them to be believed. If you're suggesting he is trying to get a "left by mutual consent" surely he would be better off criticising the board than the fans? It's definitely possible to challenge your employer without giving them grounds for summary dismissal. Either way, recruitment of a prolific goal scorer is always going to be difficult for a conference club manager on a limited budget. Our fans do have high expectations and little patience because we all believe we should be competing at a higher level. We have a point but so does he, because our demise is not down to the current group of players. Anyway, a good win tomorrow and all will be forgotten ... until our next nil nil draw with Pubteam AFC. Bluebeard, it was just a feeling from what he has said on a few occasions. I understand his and the fans frustrations and at the moment it is an explosive mixture. It must be difficult to get players to step down to our current level but I think sounding off at the fans isn't necessarily the right direction.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 14, 2014 17:36:27 GMT
The idea that Clarke's trying to get out is silly really. If he fails here, and leaving now would constitute failure, he'd not get a managerial job again. He hasn't failed here yet though has he? On paper he has got us into 4th place after rebuilding the side together with building seemingly great morale in the team. That is not to be sniffed at even at this level.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Nov 14, 2014 17:47:27 GMT
For anyone that missed it the manager said this morning; "The majority of our fans are the best I have come across in all the years I have been involved in football and I don't say that lightly, especially with what they have had to put up with.
"It's obvious that the vast majority of them are appreciative of what we are trying to achieve at this club and their comments and backing following yesterday's press conference are greatly appreciated.
"Our home attendances have averaged over 5,700 which is amazing for a Conference side and our supporters have made the Memorial Stadium an intimidating place for visiting clubs.
"Away from home we have taken over 1,000 supporters to three games, again a phenomenal number and the backing at many of our away games has made it feel like a home game for us and I really hope that continues over the course of the season.
"On Tuesday we moved up to fourth place in the league and we will be aiming to get more points on the board to tomorrow against a decent Kidderminster side.
"There is a long way to go, of course, and we realise that there are areas of our play we need to improve on.
"We are aware of the fact that our goals for tally needs to improve, but if we continue to create the chances we have in most of our games I'm sure that the goals will come."
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 14, 2014 17:54:34 GMT
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Post by dagnogo on Nov 14, 2014 18:07:52 GMT
The idea that Clarke's trying to get out is silly really. If he fails here, and leaving now would constitute failure, he'd not get a managerial job again. He hasn't failed here yet though has he? On paper he has got us into 4th place after rebuilding the side together with building seemingly great morale in the team. That is not to be sniffed at even at this level. I agree. But my point was that if he left now, he won't have taken us up. Leaving now would constitute failure.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 23:23:29 GMT
Oh sorry - how about this "Bloody hell ... Every post on this thread is a very large or scholarly book usually in a series of volumes". Or was Scholarly too much? What about this: "Ee, there's sum gurt fuggin loads of wurds on ere tonight in um?" i think the 1st sentence without "scholarly" would be fine it was unfair of me to be critical of your choice of word i apologize for that
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 15, 2014 0:57:09 GMT
A blog that in the majority of its content comes across in exactly the same way as the DC interview which it is criticising. What motive have you writing this crap. Is it the view of the majority of supporters ,I think not. Can't believe the EP print such rubbish..well on second thoughts perhaps I can!! I think the majority of supporters understand what DC is saying and that a supporter getting on the team coach whether or not under the influence of drink is not acceptable in any way and neither is abusing players who come across to applaud the support. These players are a credit to the club in that they never give less than 100% and this blog represents all that is bad about our club.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 1:10:17 GMT
With the rumours flying around at the moment about players coming or not and the lack of BoD backing, I am beginning to wonder if DC is now looking to get out? Blame the fans, lack of support etc etc He can't attack his employer so where else does he look. The thugs are providing him with a way out. I don't understand your point. Why does he need an excuse to leave? If he doesn't like the job and what comes with it, he can simply quit and apply for another one. His next employer will be interested in his reasons for leaving but its not like he has to publicly validate them to be believed. If you're suggesting he is trying to get a "left by mutual consent" surely he would be better off criticising the board than the fans? It's definitely possible to challenge your employer without giving them grounds for summary dismissal. Either way, recruitment of a prolific goal scorer is always going to be difficult for a conference club manager on a limited budget. Our fans do have high expectations and little patience because we all believe we should be competing at a higher level. We have a point but so does he, because our demise is not down to the current group of players. Anyway, a good win tomorrow and all will be forgotten ... until our next nil nil draw with Pubteam AFC. i played sundays for a pub team[robin hood retreat] but they didnt pay me £300-400 a week,,which pub teams have we played??
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Post by warmleygas on Nov 15, 2014 1:12:06 GMT
Getting on the bus is ridiculous granted, but people pay good money to watch the team so I think it's fair enough to expect some goals in return. Soon football will be the preserve of the middle classes or middle aged men/women with more money only, which is fair enough if that's what they want.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 1:18:55 GMT
Of course. It's exactly what I meant. i know you didnt mean that but some of our supporters think bad behaviour is ok because of our exit from the league and your post hints at sympathy for idiotic foul mouthed dickheads imo
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Post by abergas on Nov 15, 2014 10:44:31 GMT
I hope this is an attempt by Clarke to generate a positive response from the majority of fans today, rather than the signs of a manager out of his depth. Most people in working life have to deal with customers, parents, patients etc who do not behave in the way that most people do. Sure it can be quite upsetting, but it's important to remember that these people are a tiny minority. If Clarke is building a siege mentality, fine. If he's seeking excuses then I'm worried.
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