Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 13, 2014 19:50:22 GMT
The only time in the whole of the time that I have supported BRFC that I have been embarrassed, is when those cads in the South Enclosure began baiting a black player, I think that he played for Bradford City, but I couldn't be certain. Now I'm not a pernickety-type of PC person, but I can tell you that as a 17-year-old (?) chap, even in those days I was mortified. As regards Steve White, I think that it's fair to say that he never won the Eastville crowd over. I really don't understand why, but there you are. What we'd give for a player such as him now, eh? Yes it was Bradford City's Ses Podd - I remember it well I remember it too. He played the day we beat them 7-1 Now there was a player who was a gentleman and loyal servant to his club. I was only talking to a Bradford fan the other day about him and they absolutely loved the bloke. But those were the days when a club like Bradford had a real spirit, a bit like we had amongst the brave 3,000 who first turned out at Twerton. We really need a Denis Dunford type to draw people together from the top to the bottom and that is sadly missing these days. Mind you I am not saying that would stop the few nutters we seem to have at the moment but at least perhaps DC and the players wouldn't feel so isolated and afraid of the fans.....
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Post by valleyblue on Nov 13, 2014 20:03:26 GMT
Is this coming from a man that has said on several occasions this season that he doesn't listen to the fans ? although totally wrong it was ONE fan trying to get on the bus , the " CHAT " he had with ONE fan the other week at half time and he complains about ALL this negativity ! if there was that much negativity then the support home and away would be one hell of a lot less than what it is at the moment . He has to realise that when you make statements about having a squad that is really a top 10 div 2 side then you lose to a side bottom but one of that div and then draw 0 - 0 to a team that only train about once a fortnight you are going to get some people question things.
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Post by PeterHooper57 on Nov 13, 2014 20:06:16 GMT
IMO there is no excuse for anyone boarding the players coach without permission. Although, I am not having Clarke tarring all the supporters with the same brush. The support BRFC get is unbeliveable and as good as any. I do feel for Clarke, unfortunately he has signed some duds and he is unable to pursuade any decent goal scorers to come and play for him, which is why we will struggle to get out of the 5th division at the first attempt. Personally, I dont care whether Clarke stays or goes, but if he is not happy then he should leave, because the expectationi that BRFC will get promoted at the first attempt, is his target, no one elses. UTG Agreed with 9/10th of your post except the bit about the expectations about getting promotion at the first attempt being only his, it should be all of our collective expectations to go straight back up, come on if jamie Cureton was here he'd be on 12/13 goals IMO, we'd probably be on 45 points or so, that's all that's missing from this team, but as for the rest of your post I totally agree with you!!! Agree with you, would have liked Curo here for a swan song; unfortunately, Jamie C is not here and I personally think DC is suffering from a dry mouth, he is unable to attract a decent forward, he wont give Ellis a run, who I thought was tremendous at Dorchester, he wont drop Taylor, he is not in a good position, shame but true. Lets hope Brunt and White come to the party on Saturday.
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Post by vaughan on Nov 13, 2014 20:08:30 GMT
My advice to DC - "man up".
All this 12th man or 12th villain stuff is always tedious and irrelevant to results on the pitch. Players matter and they should be made of sterner stuff.
DC is doing O.K. Leave him alone until the end of the season. A play-off place might save his job. Anything else is not acceptable.
My major critcism of DC is that he attributed our League demise to lack of goals, but we are still mid-way through November and we have 21 goals from 19 games. Poor and it was his job to find the answer. He hasn't.
At the end of the season, we look again and find a answer to the question of how we get out the Conference in the 2 years that we have probably set ourselves. At this point, we will know about the Stadium plans (or not!) and we can cut our cloth accordingly. The answer is Johnson BTW if we have a realistic chance of new Stadium, but give DC a chance until then.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:28:20 GMT
I liked your post until I got to the end Vaughan. Then I unliked it.
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LJG
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Post by LJG on Nov 13, 2014 21:24:33 GMT
Bloody hell ... Every post on this thread is a tome.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 21:37:09 GMT
Looks like a s**t storm in a teacup to me.we truly are a fecked up laughing stock.
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Post by Epsom Gas on Nov 13, 2014 21:42:17 GMT
Sadly it's how far the club has fallen. Years of poor football and DC is taking the brunt of it. I'd like to know who people think would do a better job the DC ......... Let's be honest down the years on paper we have had good managers that haven't worked out
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Post by me on Nov 13, 2014 21:44:13 GMT
Bloody hell ... Every post on this thread is a tome. sorry, but what is a tome?
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Post by dagnogo on Nov 13, 2014 22:57:01 GMT
Bloody hell ... Every post on this thread is a tome. sorry, but what is a tome? A long story. Every other post appears to be very long.
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LPGas
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Post by LPGas on Nov 13, 2014 23:12:23 GMT
We should be grateful that the manager who took us down now has us at the dizzy heights of 4th in the Conference. Only 9 points behind automatic promotion as well. So called fans. Tut. We didn't go down in 8 games, we went down over 46. You forget the dire drivel Wards team played, all 38 games of it
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Post by bs20gas on Nov 14, 2014 0:15:26 GMT
If he had boarded the coach everytime we didnt win away last season he would be on first name terms with the whole squad, what sort of dafty travels to watch Rovers away and expects wins ? he must think its still 1990 or a brief period in 2007 or something,
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Nov 14, 2014 0:27:14 GMT
The fans on the whole this season have been supportive (Given the circumstances!). Yes it was a rough start to the season and yes you get a few morons (or moron in the case of the person who went on the coach)who attend each week and only moan and criticize. That's football. If you go to any other club up and down the country it is the same. It's not a Rovers thing.
DC don't go and do a Buckle. Alienate yourself from the fans and it will be game over. I (and many, many others) want you to succeed. Suck it up. Produce results. Get us out of this league.
That's all that matters.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 1:39:28 GMT
I feel embarrassed to be a supporter of this club this morning after hearing the sad news coming out of this morning press conference. DC basically saying he and the players are at breaking point over the negativity over every game, another **** boarded the team coach after the Alfterton game, and he also revealed that 100 posters were put all over the training ground demanding that he's sacked. Apparently after 3 minutes of this mornings press conference he got up and walked out. I've being say it for the last 3 months that the supporters will be the ones that de-rail any chance of promotion. About time people had a long hard look at themselves.I'm a little surprised to be reading this, because this poster has been one of the more outspoken critics of the club and its various managers for quite some time now, but appears to be denying others the same opportunity that he himself has enjoyed in the past.. I will agree that Westcountry Gas seems to have fully bought-in to the new manager, so credit to him for that, but people are entitled to express their views however uncomfortable that may be for some, as long as its done in the correct way. Don't do as I do, but do as I say, springs to mind here. On the main topic I would agree with the posters who say that DC appears to be an emotional man, and one who by his own admission needs to look at his own management technique in one certain area in particular. I think that he may be now regretting being so emotional and outspoken in public, mainly because he has exposed a weakness in himself and the squad to public examination, but also because no good can come of it. When he succeeded John Ward as manager I was staggered by how critical he was of certain players in public, and wondered what effect that this would have on team and player morale. But the wheel now appears to have turned, and not to his liking either. I think that it's fair to say that none of us like to be publicly criticised, but as long as it's reasonable and justified criticism, expressed in a positive fashion, then a football manager cannot expect anything much better. As someone else has already posted, if DC wishes to make a success of his career then he will find that it won't be a walk in the park, ask Sam Allardyce, Alan Pardew et al. Bad behaviour goes with the territory I'm afraid, particularly when the fans feel that the team is underachieving. During these times I would suggest that it's best to keep your head down, and your mouth shut, and continue to work hard towards the better times . . . oh, and close your eyes and ears to the dissenters. trouble is some of the abuse is so personal and disgusting nobody should have to put up with it players,other fans or children with there dads
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 1:45:04 GMT
Surely it's time for our BoD to get onto the terraces and speak to these fans, anybody whose has been to an away game knows who they are and if they are not dealt with will continue. incidentially I think you are going to be a brave fan who tries to film any of them!! im glad you said that because these people are bullies who intimidate players,fans,officials and anyone they can and its not easy to deal with this problem
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 1:57:31 GMT
We should be grateful that the manager who took us down now has us at the dizzy heights of 4th in the Conference. Only 9 points behind automatic promotion as well. So called fans. Tut. so vile abuse of the players is ok with you??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 2:02:21 GMT
The only time in the whole of the time that I have supported BRFC that I have been embarrassed, is when those cads in the South Enclosure began baiting a black player, I think that he played for Bradford City, but I couldn't be certain. Now I'm not a pernickety-type of PC person, but I can tell you that as a 17-year-old (?) chap, even in those days I was mortified. As regards Steve White, I think that it's fair to say that he never won the Eastville crowd over. I really don't understand why, but there you are. What we'd give for a player such as him now, eh? Yes it was Bradford City's Ses Podd - I remember it well was that when we beat bradford city 7-1 and brian godfrey scored a hat trick? cec podd was left back i reckon?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 2:06:03 GMT
Mmmm the facts are we would, indeed should be up there with Wycombe in league two if JW and DC had managed to bring a young hungry sort of player last season. DC is at a huge club for conference football and the gasheads that turn up, the very vast majority are right behind what he is doing, but this outburst remininded me of Buckle mid way through his reign, the famous "lower our expectations" speech, I'd ask him why has the first signing, Jamie White, played so few games? Why does he continue to moan about our forwards not being ruthless enough and carry on picking them? Ellis Harrison scored a hat-trick against Dorchester and lthe last couple of games has watched from the bench while our forwards have continued to fire blanks in front of goal, does he not deserve a Matt Taylor esque run in the starting lineup? We are 4th, we have been on a decent run its true, he and the players are really trying their best for the shirt, but Darryl, we would be top now if you had signed Jamie Cureton, I have no doubt about that, you didn't, because, apart from his age he doesn't run around enough like Matt Taylor?? Develope a thicker skin, rise above the few morons we have in line with most teams, and get those bloody strikers firing, before we spend another season here, because if we score more goals than now, we will go up because that's all that's missing imo im pretty sure harrison started the next game after dorchester? why cureton 18 app 6 goals,,others in that division have much better strike rates dont understand?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 2:11:54 GMT
Bloody hell ... Every post on this thread is a tome. sorry, but what is a tome? its the sort of thing a pseudo-intellectual says to sound clever thats all
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Nov 14, 2014 6:41:46 GMT
Mmmm the facts are we would, indeed should be up there with Wycombe in league two if JW and DC had managed to bring a young hungry sort of player last season. DC is at a huge club for conference football and the gasheads that turn up, the very vast majority are right behind what he is doing, but this outburst remininded me of Buckle mid way through his reign, the famous "lower our expectations" speech, I'd ask him why has the first signing, Jamie White, played so few games? Why does he continue to moan about our forwards not being ruthless enough and carry on picking them? Ellis Harrison scored a hat-trick against Dorchester and lthe last couple of games has watched from the bench while our forwards have continued to fire blanks in front of goal, does he not deserve a Matt Taylor esque run in the starting lineup? We are 4th, we have been on a decent run its true, he and the players are really trying their best for the shirt, but Darryl, we would be top now if you had signed Jamie Cureton, I have no doubt about that, you didn't, because, apart from his age he doesn't run around enough like Matt Taylor?? Develope a thicker skin, rise above the few morons we have in line with most teams, and get those bloody strikers firing, before we spend another season here, because if we score more goals than now, we will go up because that's all that's missing imo im pretty sure harrison started the next game after dorchester? why cureton 18 app 6 goals,,others in that division have much better strike rates dont understand? I picked on Cureton because he would have been a local ex player that would, I believe, have got by now a dozen goals with the chances we've created, a six yard specialist, who wanted to join us, 6 in 18 isn't a bad ratio in league 2 btw, as for Harrison, yes he did play the following game and wasn't too impressive, but what I don't get is he gets one game because of the hat trick, Taylor gets 18 games!!!
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