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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 7:15:30 GMT
We should be grateful that the manager who took us down now has us at the dizzy heights of 4th in the Conference. Only 9 points behind automatic promotion as well. So called fans. Tut. so vile abuse of the players is ok with you??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 7:16:45 GMT
so vile abuse of the players is ok with you?? Of course. It's exactly what I meant.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 14, 2014 9:48:13 GMT
sorry, but what is a tome? its the sort of thing a pseudo-intellectual says to sound clever thats all So if someone is articulate enough knows what a word means they are not allowed to use it for fear of looking intellectual? What level should we seek to get down to before it doesn't sound intellectual? Stone Age grunting....
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 14, 2014 9:48:38 GMT
Of course. It's exactly what I meant. Careful, some people don't do irony....
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 14, 2014 9:49:34 GMT
Why don't people just forget Cureton? He ONLY wants to come to us if the Money is right.Yes he might like the Club but its at his terms. He has probably used us on at least two occasions to get a bigger money move and there is no way I could see him signing on the wages we are rightfully now paying.
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Post by LJG on Nov 14, 2014 10:13:44 GMT
sorry, but what is a tome? its the sort of thing a pseudo-intellectual says to sound clever thats all Oh sorry - how about this "Bloody hell ... Every post on this thread is a very large or scholarly book usually in a series of volumes". Or was Scholarly too much? What about this: "Ee, there's sum gurt fuggin loads of wurds on ere tonight in um?"
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Post by buckrippers on Nov 14, 2014 10:16:11 GMT
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Post by topman on Nov 14, 2014 10:19:25 GMT
'rise above the few morons we have in line with most teams,' ......... I am not sure that we just have a few these days I see enough badly behaved 'fans' both home and away that make me concerned for the future of the club and its ability to attract other people to come and support the gas
There is a significant number who cannot control their intake of alcohol / drugs BEFORE the game and during it Add to that aggressive behaviour / vile and abusive language often without any 'cause' or 'justification'
Football is rotten from top to bottom in many areas that we cannot affect but how we 'support' our team is in our own hands
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Post by The Flying Winger on Nov 14, 2014 10:29:20 GMT
I'm no 'DC lover', but I don't think that he is anywhere near the Paul Buckle mould. Buckle was/is an odious individual who alienated the fans way before his (overdue) exit. I believe that DC is naïve as you say and should maybe think harder before he opens his mouth at a press conference, where things can be taken out of context, or parts of a sentence quoted to gain headlines.
I do hope that DC succeeds this season though, because surely that's what we all want... right??
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Post by csssmooth on Nov 14, 2014 11:10:44 GMT
i was at altrincham and braintree and its a bit more than a small minority who scream vile abuse at our players im afraid and reading various reports it seems that alfreton was similar to that,one problem is that in a small crowd in a small ground the players can hear every word thats shouted at them. of course most supporters find this disgusting and it dosnt help that children can hear this stuff,its also not easy to tell a loud mouthed drunk and aggressive man or men to shut the hell up,,,i love my football but sometimes i wish i liked another sport and didnt have to listen to these idiots or cringe for the players trying there best on the pitch. From where I was stood, pretty much behind the goal, Alfreton had nothing in common with poisonous atmosphere at Altrincham, it was all fairly good spirited, I didn't hear any abuse. I also didn't see any kids there. People were getting frustrated at the end at our inability to score against a team of clearly knackered part timers but even that came across in the form of vocal support at corners and on attacks. Whilst it is very easy to highlight the actions of one individual getting on the bus, which I also think is unforgivable, this had nothing to do with the woeful performance which went uncriticised for most the game. Maybe there was a lot of abuse from the crowd at the side of the pitch I don't know. A question that needs to, unfortunately, be asked is what is Marcus Stewart doing because whatever striking training is happening during the week certainly isn't paying dividends on match day. It saddens me to have to type that because the man was a genuine great during his playing time at Rovers.
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Post by Alveston Gas on Nov 14, 2014 11:22:05 GMT
Not impressed Nick. Just because you have an open invitation to write on the vile Evening Post doesn't mean you are in amy way representing rovers fans. The behaviour towards DC and his staff and players was disgusting and inexcusable yet you seemingly condone it because we didn't score at Alfreton. I am not impressed at all. I think DC deserves better as do the team, a team that never stop trying and despite their deficiencies have recovered very well from a bad start to the season. Miracles rarely happen, what we are seeing us a gradual improvement in our fortunes, many thought we would struggle but other than up front we have been very efficient! I am sure your "blog" will really help with the further forward progress required on the field!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 14, 2014 11:30:38 GMT
I was at Eastleigh....hardly stop singing.
I was at Telford and didn't know of the negative incident. Second half especially was all us singing, great atmosphere.
Could hear Irene on radio clearly and loads of singing at Tranmere.
We have recently sang en mass DARYL CLARKE'S BARMY ARMY (blue&white army).
A few, and I stress a few are negative and harder to please. You can focus in on that as much as you like. But let's keep this in perspective as the vast majority are vocally positive. And if folk wanna be negative, they pay the same entrance fee as me and are entitled to their views.
As for the fan whom went on coach to voice his dissatisfaction, I DO NOT condone such behaviour. It is wrong. But in a way a kick up the @rse maybe is what's needed to remind sometimes that the paying public have not received a product that is not good enough. And falls way below the quality of what's accepted. So some players should hold their heads in shame with what we've seen over the last few seasons (so have the fans too!)and a nice polite gentle reminder may have helped. We haven't really seen the like of since...
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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 14, 2014 11:32:59 GMT
I agree with Alveston Gas. That blog is bloody awful.
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Post by bs20gas on Nov 14, 2014 11:44:31 GMT
It takes about twenty mins to read that blog on the desktop version, you got videos starting up, the writing moves when your reading it, adverts appear, i gave up half way through what a mess.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 14, 2014 11:48:03 GMT
I suspect he had a hidden agenda for this, Istm there could be some sort of motive behind it, either trying to get the fans more on side, or trying to give the players more of an under-seige mentality. Maybe he's looking back at a similar interview he gave (iirc) that heralded our long unbeaten run. Maybe it's some sort of message to the board. Could be anything. Trouble is, it's a dangerous game to start playing, and you need to be Alex Ferguson to pull it off properly, so I sincerely hope it's just a spur of the moment rant.
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Post by buckrippers on Nov 14, 2014 12:04:15 GMT
I suspect he had a hidden agenda for this, Istm there could be some sort of motive behind it, either trying to get the fans more on side, or trying to give the players more of an under-seige mentality. Maybe he's looking back at a similar interview he gave (iirc) that heralded our long unbeaten run. Maybe it's some sort of message to the board. Could be anything. Trouble is, it's a dangerous game to start playing, and you need to be Alex Ferguson to pull it off properly, so I sincerely hope it's just a spur of the moment rant. Think of it this way: This wasn't an off-the-cuff, heat-of-the-moment rant straight after Alfreton, it was an organised press conference which DC planned the previous night and following morning. He walks in, says his three mins worth which he has carefully considered, then walks out. It was definitely planned and had a definite target. I think he was trying to tell someone what he and the players were having to put up with because of certain deficiencies in the squad. I think he was wrong to do it the way he did, though, because it creates animosity with the very people he should be keeping on side.
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Post by buckrippers on Nov 14, 2014 12:06:23 GMT
Not impressed Nick. Just because you have an open invitation to write on the vile Evening Post doesn't mean you are in amy way representing rovers fans. The behaviour towards DC and his staff and players was disgusting and inexcusable yet you seemingly condone it because we didn't score at Alfreton. I am not impressed at all. I think DC deserves better as do the team, a team that never stop trying and despite their deficiencies have recovered very well from a bad start to the season. Miracles rarely happen, what we are seeing us a gradual improvement in our fortunes, many thought we would struggle but other than up front we have been very efficient! I am sure your "blog" will really help with the further forward progress required on the field! If you think my blog will have more of an impact than DC's rant and actually influence the players, I'm amazed. I didn't realise I held so much power.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 12:28:43 GMT
i was at altrincham and braintree and its a bit more than a small minority who scream vile abuse at our players im afraid and reading various reports it seems that alfreton was similar to that,one problem is that in a small crowd in a small ground the players can hear every word thats shouted at them. of course most supporters find this disgusting and it dosnt help that children can hear this stuff,its also not easy to tell a loud mouthed drunk and aggressive man or men to shut the hell up,,,i love my football but sometimes i wish i liked another sport and didnt have to listen to these idiots or cringe for the players trying there best on the pitch. From where I was stood, pretty much behind the goal, Alfreton had nothing in common with poisonous atmosphere at Altrincham, it was all fairly good spirited, I didn't hear any abuse. I also didn't see any kids there. People were getting frustrated at the end at our inability to score against a team of clearly knackered part timers but even that came across in the form of vocal support at corners and on attacks. Whilst it is very easy to highlight the actions of one individual getting on the bus, which I also think is unforgivable, this had nothing to do with the woeful performance which went uncriticised for most the game. Maybe there was a lot of abuse from the crowd at the side of the pitch I don't know. A question that needs to, unfortunately, be asked is what is Marcus Stewart doing because whatever striking training is happening during the week certainly isn't paying dividends on match day. It saddens me to have to type that because the man was a genuine great during his playing time at Rovers. thanks for that,im relieved it wasnt the same as altrincham,i do understand peoples frustration after a long trip on a tuesday night
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 12:35:20 GMT
its the sort of thing a pseudo-intellectual says to sound clever thats all Oh sorry - how about this "Bloody hell ... Every post on this thread is a very large or scholarly book usually in a series of volumes". Or was Scholarly too much? What about this: "Ee, there's sum gurt fuggin loads of wurds on ere tonight in um?" i think the 1st sentence without "scholarly" would be fine
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Post by brizzle on Nov 14, 2014 12:41:11 GMT
I'm a little surprised to be reading this, because this poster has been one of the more outspoken critics of the club and its various managers for quite some time now, but appears to be denying others the same opportunity that he himself has enjoyed in the past.. I will agree that Westcountry Gas seems to have fully bought-in to the new manager, so credit to him for that, but people are entitled to express their views however uncomfortable that may be for some, as long as its done in the correct way. Don't do as I do, but do as I say, springs to mind here. On the main topic I would agree with the posters who say that DC appears to be an emotional man, and one who by his own admission needs to look at his own management technique in one certain area in particular. I think that he may be now regretting being so emotional and outspoken in public, mainly because he has exposed a weakness in himself and the squad to public examination, but also because no good can come of it. When he succeeded John Ward as manager I was staggered by how critical he was of certain players in public, and wondered what effect that this would have on team and player morale. But the wheel now appears to have turned, and not to his liking either. I think that it's fair to say that none of us like to be publicly criticised, but as long as it's reasonable and justified criticism, expressed in a positive fashion, then a football manager cannot expect anything much better. As someone else has already posted, if DC wishes to make a success of his career then he will find that it won't be a walk in the park, ask Sam Allardyce, Alan Pardew et al. Bad behaviour goes with the territory I'm afraid, particularly when the fans feel that the team is underachieving. During these times I would suggest that it's best to keep your head down, and your mouth shut, and continue to work hard towards the better times . . . oh, and close your eyes and ears to the dissenters. trouble is some of the abuse is so personal and disgusting nobody should have to put up with it players,other fans or children with there dads I tried to make the case for supporters to mind their language and behaviour at games a little while ago. There was some resistance to the suggestion as I remember. Shame really, supporters of the future and all that, besides it being plain good manners.
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