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Post by bluetornados on Sept 23, 2024 19:37:06 GMT
Matt Taylor's 10 League games of this season will be..
1..BRFC 1 Northampton 0
2..Rotherham United 0 BRFC 0
3..Stockport County 2 BRFC 0
4..BRFC 2 Cambridge United 0
5..Barnsley 2 BRFC 0
6..BRFC 0 Wigan Athletic 4
7..Peterborough United 3 BRFC 2
8..BRFC v Wycombe Wanderers
9..BRFC v Charlton Athletic
10.Burton Albion v BRFC
BRFC - P7, W2, D1, L4, GS 6, GA 11, GD -5, Pts 7, Position 19th
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Post by The Concept on Sept 23, 2024 19:42:11 GMT
I suspect that we must beat Wycombe or his position will start looking untenable. Not terminal at that point, but defeat again against Charlton would be 4 in a row.... If I did a job as poorly as Taylor has done, from the beginning of the year up until the current date, I`d be embarrassed to pick up my wages. And I`d struggle to cope, knowing that I was disappointing so many people. Football managers a different breed? The difference with JB's first end of season was his brief was to keep us in League 1 - we had to be winning games. The end of last season we were going nowhere, and weren't in danger of relegation - so MT was looking ahead to this season. He was tinkering and chopping and changing the team, but it was with the idea of giving all the players a chance to prove themselves. We started to drop down the table and MT did apologise and said he should have played his strongest 11 more often. |
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Post by The Concept on Sept 23, 2024 20:06:25 GMT
Taylor was taken on due to Barton’s alleged inability to get a side that had been heavily invested in into the playoffs. Taylor stated that he would be able to do so. What followed was absolute carnage including players meetings in the car park before the Cheltenham game, a complete breakdown at the training ground, Taylor blaming the faults of the ‘inherited’ players, those that he had assured the board were capable of the top six under his stewardship, with our two previous players of the season not being able to get out of the building quick enough. He is fricking clueless but obviously talks a good game in the boardroom. We’ve gone from sellouts to walkouts as fans start to demonstrate their frustrations at the crap this character is churning out. I feel for the players especially the younger ones that have also clearly fallen for his bulls**t. Frankly we are lumbered with him, the board have spent heavily on his chosen recruits and he will argue all the way to the National League South that he should be given the time for his plans to reach fruition. This thing I keep seeing people write about crowds down this season - it started last season, under the previous permanent manager. 2022/2023: Rovers 1 Barnsley 1 = 7,929. Rovers 1 Wycombe Wanderers 2 = 7,951. Rovers 1 Lincoln City 1 = 7,674. Rovers 4 Wigan 1 = 8,161. Rovers 3 Port Vale 0 = 7364. Rovers 1 Stevenage 1 = 7,143. 2023/2024: Rovers 1 Northampton 0 = 8,529. Rovers 2 Cambridge 0 = 7,893. Rovers 0 Wigan 4 = 7,925. We couldn't even sell out last season, even when one end of the ground wasn't in use. It wasn't until Mangan took over that we had our highest attendance at that point in the season = 8,518. Then 8,346 for MT's first game followed by 9,176 & 9,143 for our 2 excellent victories over Portsmouth and Charlton over Christmas. Granted, I imagine this coming Saturday will be a fair amount down on the 4th game last season. |
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 23, 2024 20:15:11 GMT
Joey was shown door on October 26th as "position in league didn't reflect budget he was given" said the owners . Let's see if they follow same edict ? If it's the same edict then it would be around October 26th 2025. JB had a full season in League 1, where we finished 17th. Then second season sacked after 13 games, when we were 16th. And even though I can't stand him, I was surprised at the time. I'm guessing you weren't surprised because as a club, top half of the table would have been a reasonable target? This clearly wasn't the reason he was fired. It was to do with behind the scenes stuff and the fact that the new owners weren't willing to put up with JB effectively being given free rein to do things like allow employees to commute from north-west England and then arrange training schedules around their travel itinerary. |
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Post by The Concept on Sept 23, 2024 20:16:45 GMT
If it's the same edict then it would be around October 26th 2025. JB had a full season in League 1, where we finished 17th. Then second season sacked after 13 games, when we were 16th. And even though I can't stand him, I was surprised at the time. I'm guessing you weren't surprised because as a club, top half of the table would have been a reasonable target? This clearly wasn't the reason he was fired. It was to do with behind the scenes stuff and the fact that the new owners weren't willing to put up with JB effectively being given free rein to do things like allow employees to commute from north-west England and then arrange training schedules around their travel itinerary. I must have been editing my post the same time as you were quoting me! I've added a p.s. p.s. My thoughts were the new owners were looking for the first excuse to get rid. I took the statement put out with a large pinch of salt.I was surprised because although we were 16th I didn't think we were in danger of going down - it was another meh season. |
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 23, 2024 21:21:14 GMT
I'm guessing you weren't surprised because as a club, top half of the table would have been a reasonable target? This clearly wasn't the reason he was fired. It was to do with behind the scenes stuff and the fact that the new owners weren't willing to put up with JB effectively being given free rein to do things like allow employees to commute from north-west England and then arrange training schedules around their travel itinerary. I must have been editing my post the same time as you were quoting me! I've added a p.s. p.s. My thoughts were the new owners were looking for the first excuse to get rid. I took the statement put out with a large pinch of salt.I was surprised because although we were 16th I didn't think we were in danger of going down - it was another meh season. Something to do with great minds thinking alike? The performances, with the game against Stevenage being a nadir, had dropped off but there was no real reason to move JB on at that particular point in time. Wael made a very big deal of how he and JB held firm against a disillusioned and angry fanbase to achieve promotion from the basement division. Once Wael handed over to the new owners, 'our Joey' had effectively lost his protector, and would be subject to a greater level of scrutiny. My impression from outside is that the owners certainly wouldn't have liked what they saw of JB's working arrangements. Remember that his previous chairman at Fleetwood actually imposed a transfer embargo on 'our Joey'. I think if it had been an instant dislike to JB, then the owners would have moved somebody else in much more quickly. However, they clearly didn't anybody in mind and were forced to rely on Andy Mangan. My best guess is that something happened behind the scenes and forced their hand. |
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Post by russiangas on Sept 23, 2024 22:53:22 GMT
I just don't think Taylor has been a particularly successful manager anywhere he's been. If you look at his stats he's never won more 45% of games where he's been in charge. The most successful period was when he was in league 2, but he's not got much of a proven record at a higher level. Seemed like an odd choice when we appointed him really. We have a team now of so say promising young players, there could turn out to be some gems among them, but still a lot of unknown entities. Needs a few more games to see how things pan out but maybe only until end of October or so.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 23, 2024 23:16:33 GMT
Matt Taylor - Age 42 - Player Position Centre Back - Current Manager of BRFC - Stats Exeter City - 01-06-2018 to 04-10-2022 - P227, W99, D68, L60 - Win % = 43.61 Rotherham Utd - 04-10-2022 to 13-11-2023 - P55, W10, D18, L27 - Win % = 18.18 BRISTOL ROVERS - 01-12-2023 to Present - P41, W13, D6, L22 - = Win % = 31.71 Totals: P323, W122, D92, L109 = Win % = 37.77 i2-prod.bristolpost.co.uk/incoming/article8946291.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_GettyImages-1387158553.jpg |
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 24, 2024 12:54:25 GMT
Thing is, MT has recruited well, and now it’s his team, and when they are ‘on song’ they look very good.
We made a promising start, which was down to some very strong determined and defensive performance’s.
Unfortunately, what followed has been an ‘absolute shambles’ which has rendered me speechless, and it’s
going to take several speech theory sessions to get my voice back!
Back in the black and white days Alex Ferguson was just one game away from being sacked by Man U, he
survived and he went on to become clubs most successful manager ever.
We are still paying off previous managers including JB who was also was very close to a premature dismissal
before he turned it around, by achieving promotion with a final day mission impossible 7-0 victory, which also
put the Gas on the footballing map.
MT was very successful at Exeter and here’s what could be the proof of the pudding, has he the football ‘nouse’
to motivate his team to turn the corner and get us back on track?
It’s way to soon to be calling for his head, we need to get behind the team and manager and see what can be
achieved with a little patience and a generous dose of positivity. UTG
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Post by Icegas on Sept 24, 2024 13:22:02 GMT
Thing is, MT has recruited well, and now it’s his team, and when they are ‘on song’ they look very good. We made a promising start, which was down to some very strong determined and defensive performance’s. Unfortunately, what followed has been an ‘absolute shambles’ which has rendered me speechless, and it’s going to take several speech theory sessions to get my voice back! Back in the black and white days Alex Ferguson was just one game away from being sacked by Man U, he survived and he went on to become clubs most successful manager ever. We are still paying off previous managers including JB who was also was very close to a premature dismissal before he turned it around, by achieving promotion with a final day mission impossible 7-0 victory, which also put the Gas on the footballing map. MT was very successful at Exeter and here’s what could be the proof of the pudding, has he the football ‘nouse’ to motivate his team to turn the corner and get us back on track? It’s way to soon to be calling for his head, we need to get behind the team and manager and see what can be achieved with a little patience and a generous dose of positivity. UTG Rubbish. I'm old school, I would like a manager to be given time (2-4 years) to build his squad and build a team up.But times have sadly changed.In modern day football it has changed and you don't get time, and Taylor is failing. Ive seen a bunch of posts on here stating that we can't keep firing managers, and having them on gardening leave! Well we have done many times before, pretty much through our history..as does every other club in football. Taylor is failing, not improving us and needs to be called out on it. Apart from the last 25/30 mins on Saturday, I've literally watched that worst 150 mins of football that the gas have ever played. I was at the point of wanting it to become 6/7 in order to make to point of how bad we were. We deserved it. I see no future under Taylor. |
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 24, 2024 13:57:17 GMT
Thing is, MT has recruited well, and now it’s his team, and when they are ‘on song’ they look very good. We made a promising start, which was down to some very strong determined and defensive performance’s. Unfortunately, what followed has been an ‘absolute shambles’ which has rendered me speechless, and it’s going to take several speech theory sessions to get my voice back! Back in the black and white days Alex Ferguson was just one game away from being sacked by Man U, he survived and he went on to become clubs most successful manager ever. We are still paying off previous managers including JB who was also was very close to a premature dismissal before he turned it around, by achieving promotion with a final day mission impossible 7-0 victory, which also put the Gas on the footballing map. MT was very successful at Exeter and here’s what could be the proof of the pudding, has he the football ‘nouse’ to motivate his team to turn the corner and get us back on track? It’s way to soon to be calling for his head, we need to get behind the team and manager and see what can be achieved with a little patience and a generous dose of positivity. UTG Rubbish. I'm old school, I would like a manager to be given time (2-4 years) to build his squad and build a team up.But times have sadly changed.In modern day football it has changed and you don't get time, and Taylor is failing. Ive seen a bunch of posts on here stating that we can't keep firing managers, and having them on gardening leave! Well we have done many times before, pretty much through our history..as does every other club in football. Taylor is failing, not improving us and needs to be called out on it. Apart from the last 25/30 mins on Saturday, I've literally watched that worst 150 mins of football that the gas have ever played. I was at the point of wanting it to become 6/7 in order to make to point of how bad we were. We deserved it. I see no future under Taylor. You must have been fortunate enough not to watch the team in the 01/02 season, because that was desperately bad. Even worse than the conference relegation season, when a series of unexpected developments sent us spiralling into non-league football. Even when we were playing the likes of Braintree, it wasn't that bad. This for me is the nadir, and if it can get worse than this then we should all give up now. Do you seriously think the football being played now is worse than the 'Halifax' season? |
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 24, 2024 14:21:40 GMT
Since the end of the WW2 our record of relegation seasons have been:
1961-62 - P42, W13, D7, L22, GS 53, GA 81 Points 33 - Top Goalscorer Bobby Jones 13
1980-81 - P42, W5, D13, L24, GS 34, GA 65, Points 23 - Gary Mabbutt & Aidan McCaffery 5
1992-93 - P46, W10, D11, L25, GS 55, GA 87, Points 41 - John Taylor 14
2000-01 - P46, W12, D15, L19, GS 53, GA 57, Points 51 - Nathan Ellington 15
2010-11 - P46, W11, D12, L23, GS 48, GA 82, Points 45 - Will Hoskins 17
2013-14 - P46, W12, D14, L20, GS 43, GA 54, Points 50 - John-Joe O'Toole 13
2020-21 - P46, W10, D8, L28, GS 40, GA 70, Points 38 - Luke Leahy 8
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Post by Icegas on Sept 24, 2024 14:25:43 GMT
Rubbish. I'm old school, I would like a manager to be given time (2-4 years) to build his squad and build a team up.But times have sadly changed.In modern day football it has changed and you don't get time, and Taylor is failing. Ive seen a bunch of posts on here stating that we can't keep firing managers, and having them on gardening leave! Well we have done many times before, pretty much through our history..as does every other club in football. Taylor is failing, not improving us and needs to be called out on it. Apart from the last 25/30 mins on Saturday, I've literally watched that worst 150 mins of football that the gas have ever played. I was at the point of wanting it to become 6/7 in order to make to point of how bad we were. We deserved it. I see no future under Taylor. You must have been fortunate enough not to watch the team in the 01/02 season, because that was desperately bad. Even worse than the conference relegation season, when a series of unexpected developments sent us spiralling into non-league football. Even when we were playing the likes of Braintree, it wasn't that bad. This for me is the nadir, and if it can get worse than this then we should all give up now. Do you seriously think the football being played now is worse than the 'Halifax' season? Ive been following Rovers since 1990, so I watched the 01/02 season. We had talent then, but after missing out on promotion under Olly we fell of into freefall and this ultimately resulted in our conference season in 2015. That 2014 sude wasn't the worst side I've seen us have,it was boring Ward and circumstances that lead us to that point. We had worst teams then 01/02 and that 2014 side. But while I believe this side has talent, the worst 3 half's of football I've ever seen us play have been over the past two matches. Judged but comments on here, a lot agree. |
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 24, 2024 14:35:17 GMT
Agreed! We have had some awful teams in the past in particular during the Higg years, , We had no funds available to improve team or infrastructure and where
it seemed that every team we played looked better than us including the likes of Torquay and look where they are now.
Even if it transpires that MT fails to turn it around the nucleus of the squad is strong, so that a half decent manager will get the job done. UTG
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 24, 2024 14:52:28 GMT
Thing is, MT has recruited well, and now it’s his team, and when they are ‘on song’ they look very good. We made a promising start, which was down to some very strong determined and defensive performance’s. Unfortunately, what followed has been an ‘absolute shambles’ which has rendered me speechless, and it’s going to take several speech theory sessions to get my voice back! Back in the black and white days Alex Ferguson was just one game away from being sacked by Man U, he survived and he went on to become clubs most successful manager ever. We are still paying off previous managers including JB who was also was very close to a premature dismissal before he turned it around, by achieving promotion with a final day mission impossible 7-0 victory, which also put the Gas on the footballing map. MT was very successful at Exeter and here’s what could be the proof of the pudding, has he the football ‘nouse’ to motivate his team to turn the corner and get us back on track? It’s way to soon to be calling for his head, we need to get behind the team and manager and see what can be achieved with a little patience and a generous dose of positivity. UTG Rubbish. I'm old school, I would like a manager to be given time (2-4 years) to build his squad and build a team up.But times have sadly changed.In modern day football it has changed and you don't get time, and Taylor is failing. Ive seen a bunch of posts on here stating that we can't keep firing managers, and having them on gardening leave! Well we have done many times before, pretty much through our history..as does every other club in football. Taylor is failing, not improving us and needs to be called out on it. Apart from the last 25/30 mins on Saturday, I've literally watched that worst 150 mins of football that the gas have ever played. I was at the point of wanting it to become 6/7 in order to make to point of how bad we were. We deserved it. I see no future under Taylor. Toteend 3 made some very good points so his post is not rubbish, just different from yours. A tad more respect for alternative views perhaps? Criticising toteend, saying football ‘times have changed’ and then going on to say that sacking managers doesn’t matter because “we have done many times before, pretty much through our history..as does every other club in football.’ So using what used to happen as justification”. I’m sure you see the irony. Pretty sure we’ve played just as bad over two games many times in the last 10 years and I go back to 1967 and it doesn’t even rate in my top ten of horror shows. Like you, I’m probably ‘old school’ as well but whilst I accept that ultimately results will determine whether MT stays or go I don’t have to pay for all these ‘gardening leaves’ that you talk about. I doubt you do either so perhaps it’s easier to say it when you’re not the one paying for it. In the end it will be the owners who decide, which is the right way around. But it’s just an alternative view! 😉 UTG! |
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 24, 2024 16:03:01 GMT
Thanks Warehamgas much appreciated - I toyed with giving icegas a frosty retort but you’ve covered it for me. UTG
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Post by Icegas on Sept 24, 2024 16:13:07 GMT
Thanks Warehamgas much appreciated - I toyed with giving icegas a frosty retort but you’ve covered it for me. UTG What, because I called something you wrote rubbish? One word hurts feelings now? Lord have mercy. |
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 24, 2024 17:02:27 GMT
Since the end of the WW2 our record of relegation seasons have been:1961-62 - P42, W13, D7, L22, GS 53, GA 81 Points 33 - Top Goalscorer Bobby Jones 13 1980-81 - P42, W5, D13, L24, GS 34, GA 65, Points 23 - Gary Mabbutt & Aidan McCaffery 5 1992-93 - P46, W10, D11, L25, GS 55, GA 87, Points 41 - John Taylor 14 2000-01 - P46, W12, D15, L19, GS 53, GA 57, Points 51 - Nathan Ellington 15 2010-11 - P46, W11, D12, L23, GS 48, GA 82, Points 45 - Will Hoskins 17 2013-14 - P46, W12, D14, L20, GS 43, GA 54, Points 50 - John-Joe O'Toole 13 2020-21 - P46, W10, D8, L28, GS 40, GA 70, Points 38 - Luke Leahy 8e next 5/6 years should be ok! Thanks bt. I knew we’d had 7 of them and I always get nervous when the year ends in a 1 but we’ve also had a 2,3 and 4. I hope that means the next 5/6 years could be ok! 👍 UTG! |
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 24, 2024 17:02:44 GMT
Thanks Warehamgas much appreciated - I toyed with giving icegas a frosty retort but you’ve covered it for me. UTG What, because I called something you wrote rubbish? One word hurts feelings now? Lord have mercy. Praise be! - Have you just woken up? Old School - what music like ice ice baby |
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 24, 2024 17:07:33 GMT
Thanks Warehamgas much appreciated - I toyed with giving icegas a frosty retort but you’ve covered it for me. UTG What, because I called something you wrote rubbish? One word hurts feelings now? Lord have mercy. It’s not about hurt feelings is it? It's about a well thought out post that is clearly not rubbish, just different from your view. Something you clearly can’t appreciate and find hard to understand. As you say, Lord have mercy. UTG! |
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