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Post by baldrick on Sept 8, 2024 20:52:33 GMT
It was a report in the Observer Editorial based on the conclusions of United Nations Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in Afghanistan, Richard Bennett. Interestingly enough I can no longer find the article although it is reported in associated news agencies. It states that - '‘So pervasive is the Taliban’s institutionalised gender oppression, and so slender are the spaces in which women and girls may live freely, that in Afghanistan today almost any act can be characterised as an act of resistance.”
That conclusion from Richard Bennett, the UN special rapporteur on human rights in Afghanistan, encapsulates how unbearably suffocating it is to be female in Afghanistan today: excluded from education and from running a business; forbidden from going outside for a walk or to exercise, to speak or show any part of their face or body outside the home; or even for their voices to be heard singing or reading from within their own home. There is no other country where women and girls are so oppressed on the basis of their sex.
The US and the UK are complicit in this oppression. Their abrupt withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021 triggered the collapse of the Afghan government under which the situation for women and girls was improving.....'Personally I think that was a battle we could not win. Such is the tribal nature of the country, with three main languages and a culture of misogyny that transcends Islam. I truly believe that we were never going to achieve our goals when only a small middle class in Kabul believed in them, whilst hampered by an overtly corrupt government. Walk away. I think we could have achieved most of our goals, but we went about it the wrong way. It was made worse by expanding into the south from 2006, both by doing so in the first place and doing so half hearted in terms of strategy and resources.
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Post by icegas on Sept 8, 2024 20:57:04 GMT
Interesting that Britain and the USA are now being blamed for the rise of the Taliban and the denigration of women to chattel status in Afghan. The fact we left allowed it apparently, which is interesting when so many people were telling the US and UK to leave. Got their way, now its our fault. Admittedly Trump's plan and cut backs prior to Biden carrying it out left a lot to be desired. Oh God, with the anti Trump rhetoric again! Not you personally, just in general. Trump set up the deal to leave Afghanistan, he even threatened the Taliban leader in a meeting that if the Taliban attacks any American citizen, or soldier worldwide in the future that he would bomb the s**t out of the Taliban's leaders house - Trump then showed the Taliban leader a picture of his house from above. - There were not further attacks. Then Biden took over, wrecked the whole thing and the Taliban and ISIS took the Americans and western weapons that the Biden administration just left. This is the Biden's administration's fault! And Harris is apart of it... Nothing to do with Trump!
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Post by baldrick on Sept 8, 2024 21:04:01 GMT
Interesting that Britain and the USA are now being blamed for the rise of the Taliban and the denigration of women to chattel status in Afghan. The fact we left allowed it apparently, which is interesting when so many people were telling the US and UK to leave. Got their way, now its our fault. Admittedly Trump's plan and cut backs prior to Biden carrying it out left a lot to be desired. Oh God, with the anti Trump rhetoric again! Not you personally, just in general. Trump set up the deal to leave Afghanistan, he even threatened the Taliban leader in a meeting that if the Taliban attacks any American citizen, or soldier worldwide in the future that he would bomb the s**t out of the Taliban's leaders house - Trump then showed the Taliban leader a picture of his house from above. - There were not further attacks. Then Biden took over, wrecked the whole thing and the Taliban and ISIS took the Americans and western weapons that the Biden administration just left. This is the Biden's administration's fault! And Harris is apart of it... Nothing to do with Trump! It was Trump's deal.
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Post by icegas on Sept 8, 2024 21:36:12 GMT
Oh God, with the anti Trump rhetoric again! Not you personally, just in general. Trump set up the deal to leave Afghanistan, he even threatened the Taliban leader in a meeting that if the Taliban attacks any American citizen, or soldier worldwide in the future that he would bomb the s**t out of the Taliban's leaders house - Trump then showed the Taliban leader a picture of his house from above. - There were not further attacks. Then Biden took over, wrecked the whole thing and the Taliban and ISIS took the Americans and western weapons that the Biden administration just left. This is the Biden's administration's fault! And Harris is apart of it... Nothing to do with Trump! It was Trump's deal. Trump didn't get the chance to execute the deal.. and he wouldn't have left the Americans weapons there like Biden did. It was a disgrace.Stop trying to pass the buck.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 8, 2024 21:55:06 GMT
Trump didn't get the chance to execute the deal.. and he wouldn't have left the Americans weapons there like Biden did. It was a disgrace.Stop trying to pass the buck. I'm not, I'm blaming Biden too. However, Cheshire's original post was about the rise of the Taliban and the loss (subjugation) of women's rights. Trump took them at their word they would honour girl's education, etc. He was either being extremely naive or disingenuous. The weapons being left behind is a different story.
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Post by icegas on Sept 8, 2024 22:45:08 GMT
Trump didn't get the chance to execute the deal.. and he wouldn't have left the Americans weapons there like Biden did. It was a disgrace.Stop trying to pass the buck. I'm not, I'm blaming Biden too. However, Cheshire's original post was about the rise of the Taliban and the loss (subjugation) of women's rights. Trump took them at their word they would honour girl's education, etc. He was either being extremely naive or disingenuous. The weapons being left behind is a different story. I'm personally only taking about the removal of weapons and then troops from Afghanistan under Trump's and then Biden's watch. Subjugation there is a different issue.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 9, 2024 0:27:39 GMT
I'm not, I'm blaming Biden too. However, Cheshire's original post was about the rise of the Taliban and the loss (subjugation) of women's rights. Trump took them at their word they would honour girl's education, etc. He was either being extremely naive or disingenuous. The weapons being left behind is a different story. I'm personally only taking about the removal of weapons and then troops from Afghanistan under Trump's and then Biden's watch. Subjugation there is a different issue. It was the loss of human rights that restarted this.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 10, 2024 8:15:22 GMT
Kamala Harris and Donald Trump to debate in pivotal campaign test..Anthony Zurcher, Senior North America correspondenti.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/09/20/89447755-13829679-Vice_President_Kamala_Harris_and_former_President_Donald_Trump_a-a-1_1725908621919.jpgPresidential debates matter in American politics. And the one that takes place on Tuesday night between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris – their only currently scheduled face-off – may matter more than most. Joe Biden’s poor performance in the first presidential debate in late June created a firestorm of pressure within the Democratic Party that ultimately forced him to abandon his re-election campaign. Even though Kamala Harris has been vice-president for more than three years and a candidate for president for seven weeks, she is still a relative unknown for many Americans. In a recent New York Times survey, 28% of likely November voters said that they needed to know more about the Californian. That poll showed the race a statistical dead heat – a finding most recent surveys have also indicated, both nationally and in key battleground states. The 2024 presidential campaign has been full of historic tumult, but the American electorate is still sharply – and narrowly - divided. That underscores the importance of Tuesday night’s debate, where even small shifts in the mood of the electorate could be the difference between victory and defeat for the candidates. For Ms Harris, the showdown in Philadelphia provides an opportunity for her to flesh out the details before an audience of tens of millions – although she will have to do so while under rhetorical fire from her Republican opponent. This opportunity is not without risks, however, as Ms Harris could define herself – and her positions – in ways that damage her electoral prospects. She has struggled in the past with answering pointed questions under pressure, and her reluctance to sit for media interviews in the opening weeks of her campaign has denied her the opportunity to hone her linguistic chops. Although she has tried to present herself as the change candidate in this election, the moderators – and the former president – are likely to press her to defend the Biden administration’s record, particularly on areas where polls show Democrats are weak, such as border security and inflation. She will also have to explain why she has renounced some of the more liberal policies she embraced during her unsuccessful bid for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination. She recently has walked back her positions on a fracking ban, decriminalising border crossing and nationalising health insurance, among others. She has explained these changes as ones made to reflect new circumstances – but they may be viewed by some voters as moves born of political expediency. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/10/00/89468553-13831171-image-a-23_1725925872363.jpgFor Trump, the debate presents an opportunity to wrest back the initiative in this campaign after a month where the Democrats – with their new nominee and high-energy convention – dominated political headlines. He has a history of thriving in the spotlight and setting the terms of political conversation that keeps his opponents off-balance and his issues – notably on immigration and trade, where his positions have broad popular support – at the forefront of political discussion. The former president has his own potential pitfalls on Tuesday, however. His uneven performance during his June debate with Mr Biden drew little scrutiny because of his opponent’s sometimes catastrophic verbal miscues. Ms Harris is sure to present a more nimble opponent, and his answers will have to be sharper. During a New York economic forum last week, he was unable to offer a clear explanation for his childcare policies. Such verbal meandering during the debate will provide Democrats with a wealth of campaign fodder. Trump must also tread carefully when sparring with the vice-president – only the second woman presidential nominee and the first of colour. If he comes across as domineering or belittling, he could further damage his already weak support among female voters. The two candidates have used markedly different ways of preparing for Tuesday night’s event. The vice-president – and former prosecutor - has been in Pittsburgh, a few hours drive east of Philadelphia, holding mock debates and reviewing her policy proposals. The move also allowed her to campaign and benefit from some local media coverage in the largest and most crucial battleground state of Pennyslvania. Trump – who has participated in presidential debates in each of the past three elections - has held more informal sessions, including reviewing his positions on key issues. Last week, he participated in a town hall forum hosted by conservative cable network Fox News. Tuesday, then, is set to be a contrast of styles as well as political views. Although election day won’t arrive until November, early voting is set to begin this month in some key battleground states – including in pivotal Pennsylvania. So while this debate could help set the political environment for the last two months of the 2024 presidential race, it also will be the last chance for the two candidates to reach some voters in states where every ballot matters. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/10/04/89472357-13832169-image-a-3_1725939856148.jpg
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Post by oldie on Sept 10, 2024 8:48:22 GMT
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 10, 2024 21:01:16 GMT
Trump and Harris to square off in presidential debate..by Phil McCauslandichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1024/cpsprodpb/814c/live/103efa30-6634-11ef-b43e-6916dcba5cbf.pngKamala Harris and Donald Trump will debate at 21:00 local time (02:00 BST) for the first time in the 2024 US presidential election For many Americans, this could be their first real introduction to Vice-President Harris on the national stage A presidential debate in June effectively ended US President Joe Biden's campaign after a catastrophic performance against Trump Harris then took over as Democratic nominee, and she has since ridden a wave of momentum that has led to a neck-and-neck race Trump, the Republican nominee, will be looking to use tonight's debate to regain his campaign's lead and the nation's attention The debate is 90 minutes long, with two commercial breaks Trump and Harris can’t talk to their staffers during those breaks Microphones will be muted for the whole debate, other than when it’s a candidate’s turn to speak Props and pre-written notes are not allowed But Harris and Trump will be provided a pen and paper, and some water There will be no studio audience Candidates will have two-minute answers to questions, two-minute rebuttals, and one minute for follow-ups, clarifications, or responses A coin flip decided which side of the stage they will stand on and also who will speak last. In this debate, Trump will offer the last two-minute closing statement and Harris will stand stage left
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Post by baldrick on Sept 11, 2024 7:05:09 GMT
Taylor Swift endorses Harris.
Did anyone watch the debate?
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 11, 2024 7:45:33 GMT
Harris puts Trump on defensive in fiery debate..by Rob Corpichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1024/cpsprodpb/d89e/live/cc013b20-6ff8-11ef-8c1a-df523ba43a9a.jpgKamala Harris and Donald Trump have had a fiery 90-minute debate in Philadelphia - their first of the 2024 US presidential election After shaking hands - it was the first time they had met - the pair debated policy before moving onto more personal attacks Harris said people leave Trump rallies early "out of exhaustion and boredom" - he said people don't go to hers in the first place Trump criticised Harris's record on immigration and the border, and also her shifting policy positions - Harris blamed him for "Trump abortion bans" and for the 6 January attacks on the US Capitol Snap polls suggest Harris won the debate, but Trump says afterwards that she "lost very badly" With the election taking place on 5 November, Harris is slightly ahead in national opinion polls - but polls are very tight in key battleground states Shortly after the debate, Taylor Swift endorsed Harris on Instagram, calling her a ''gifted leader''
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 11, 2024 7:49:17 GMT
Who won the debate?..by Anthony Zurcher, BBC North America correspondent, reporting from the debate
In a testy 90-minute debate, Harris frequently rattled the former president – goading him into extended defences of the size of his rally crowds, on his conduct during the 6 January attack on the US capitol and on the officials who served in his administration who have since become outspoken critics of his campaign.
If debates are won and lost on which candidate best takes advantage of issues where they are strong with voters - and defends or deflects on areas of weakness - Tuesday night frequently tilted in favour of the vice-president.
Time and time again as the evening progressed, Harris put Trump on the defensive, with a series of jabs and barbs that he felt compelled to address. She called him weak. She said foreign leaders were laughing at him. She said people left his rallies early out of “exhaustion and boredom”.
Harris came into this debate with clear weaknesses in the minds of many Americans, on topics like inflation, immigration and the Afghanistan withdrawal. For the most part, Trump was unable to land his rhetorical punches – and in the days ahead he might come to regret the missed opportunity.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 11, 2024 7:57:12 GMT
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 11, 2024 8:06:52 GMT
Elon Musk reaffirms Donald Trump support, but Kamala Harris 'exceeded expectations'..by Rob Corpi.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/11/08/89528751-13837335-image-a-5_1726041050061.jpgOne of Republican former President Donald Trump's key backers, tech billionaire Elon Musk, has weighed into the post-debate spin. The pair have forged a close alliance - with Trump saying he would enlist the entrepreneur to run a “government efficiency commission” if he wins in November. The Tesla, SpaceX and Starlink boss said Kamala Harris' debate performance "exceeded most people’s expectations", in a post , externalon X, the social media platform he owns. "That said, when it comes to getting things done, not just saying nice-sounding words, I strongly believe that Trump will do a far better job," he said. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/11/08/89516803-13837335-Taylor_Swift_posted_her_endorsement_moments_after_Donald_Trump_a-a-8_1726041132497.jpg
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 11, 2024 8:22:35 GMT
All I have to say. . don't let Donald have your imaginary cats/dogs or any other pets ,he thinks they might get eaten,not sure by whom though!!
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 11, 2024 8:41:30 GMT
Does Taylor Swift's endorsement swing the social media battle?..by Marianna Spring, Disinformation and social media correspondent.i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06/14/15/86118529-13529689-While_performing_songs_from_her_Red_album_the_singer_wore_a_glit-m-13_1718376184283.jpgWhat does Taylor Swift's endorsement of Kamala Harris to her 283 million Instagram followers mean for how the election plays out on social media? The online world is a key battleground for both campaigns. Posts from the campaigns are starting to dominate some social media feeds - but what's happening online is also feeding into what's happening in the campaigns. I've been hanging out with some of the people involved in the Swifties for Harris campaign - who mobilised weeks before Swfit's endorsement. Messaging them straight after her Instagram post was shared, they were very excited. The online army of her supporters has a reputation for being effective at pushing particular messages online. They also have a reputation for being devoted to Taylor Swift - and ferocious to those they see as her enemies. This online fandom could be a useful tool for the Harris campaign - especially when it comes to going head-to-head with Donald Trump's already very active base of supporters online, which operates a bit like a fandom too. More broadly, it puts the election on the radar of younger less engaged voters. The memes and montages from supporters online can feel more authentic than paid adverts, which could also be useful in convincing undecided voters. But there's a question over whether any of this would attract voters from the opposite team - and there's a risk too that big stars turn off some people who feel like they're a bit out of touch with their lives.
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Post by icegas on Sept 11, 2024 11:13:54 GMT
I didn't get home to until 3am from work, so watched the first half of it, then fell to sleep. I will watch the rest later on.
From what I saw...
ABC was terrible, again -
Trump, “ask her about what month abortions should be limited to, 7, 8, 9”?
ABC, “moving on”…
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Harris was clearly wearing earphones.She lied and moderators ignored it...Trump kept having to correct her on her lies.
For anyone who watched it, it was obvious that she had the questions in advance and the moderators were actually debating Trump so it was 3 v 1.
Trump let himself be taken on tangents about stuff like eating animals and rally attendance ( the latter Which is ridiculous) . Harris misrepresented (eg on the economy) and lied repeatedly.
Trump wasn’t at his best but won it on substance.She tried to get Trump to get angry and react for clipbait, but he never had kept calm..
ABCs own polling days Trump won by 93%.
The only way she beats Trump is on abortion. She makes me feel nauseous by how fake and phony she is. Trump maybe somethings, but he believes what he says and is genuine.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 11, 2024 11:23:25 GMT
I didn't get home to until 3am from work, so watched the first half of it, then fell to sleep. I will watch the rest later on. From what I saw... ABC was terrible, again - Trump, “ask her about what month abortions should be limited to, 7, 8, 9”? ABC, “moving on”… .... Harris was clearly wearing earphones.She lied and moderators ignored it...Trump kept having to correct her on her lies. For anyone who watched it, it was obvious that she had the questions in advance and the moderators were actually debating Trump so it was 3 v 1. Trump let himself be taken on tangents about stuff like eating animals and rally attendance ( the latter Which is ridiculous) . Harris misrepresented (eg on the economy) and lied repeatedly. Trump wasn’t at his best but won it on substance.She tried to get Trump to get angry and react for clipbait, but he never had kept calm.. ABCs own polling days Trump won by 93%. The only way she beats Trump is on abortion. She makes me feel nauseous by how fake and phony she is. Trump maybe somethings, but he believes what he says and is genuine. Do you have a link for the 93%?
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Post by pop up pirate on Sept 11, 2024 11:25:02 GMT
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