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Post by baldrick on Sept 5, 2024 23:02:12 GMT
I bet you laughed when Trump first entered politics. Definitely wasn't laughing by the end. 😶
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 6, 2024 10:03:27 GMT
I bet you laughed when Trump first entered politics. Definitely wasn't laughing by the end. 😶 And the US won't be laughing if he gets in again, especially with his promotion of Project 2025 which would put vast amounts of Government and power under the direct authority of the President leading to an eventual changing of the Constitution. The plan has been described as an 'authoritarian, Christian nationalist' agenda. It would bring more roles under 'political' appointment, allow the church more influence, get rid of Medicare and Medicaid and roll back hard fought freedoms for minorities and the LGBTQ+ community, bringing in a charge of anti-white racism. It wants to greatly increase capital punishment and speed up those trials. It plans using the military for domestic law enforcement matters. Certainly won't be land of the free if that lot get their way.
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Post by oldie on Sept 6, 2024 10:18:01 GMT
Definitely wasn't laughing by the end. 😶 And the US won't be laughing if he gets in again, especially with his promotion of Project 2025 which would put vast amounts of Government and power under the direct authority of the President leading to an eventual changing of the Constitution. The plan has been described as an 'authoritarian, Christian nationalist' agenda. It would bring more roles under 'political' appointment, allow the church more influence, get rid of Medicare and Medicaid and roll back hard fought freedoms for minorities and the LGBTQ+ community, bringing in a charge of anti-white racism. It wants to greatly increase capital punishment and speed up those trials. It plans using the military for domestic law enforcement matters. Certainly won't be land of the free if that lot get their way. I am holding faith in freedom loving Americans, including those on the right of the political spectrum, will laugh this off the agenda. Even if Trump gets in he would need the support of both Congress and Senate to get anything like this through...and he won't have that.
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Post by oldie on Sept 6, 2024 12:00:58 GMT
More insanity from Trump, this on Child Care
"The Republican nominee, who has sparked questions over his mental acuity during his campaign, cooked up a rambling reply when asked at the Economic Club of New York whether he’d commit to prioritizing legislation related to child care should he return to the White House.
“It’s a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about, that — because, look, child care is child care. It’s, couldn’t, you know, there’s something, you have to have it — in this country, you have to have it,” said Trump before pivoting to talk of imposing tariffs on imported goods."
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Tarlov declared that the former president’s remarks “really highlight a big problem
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Post by aghast on Sept 6, 2024 17:54:15 GMT
I'm astonished that Trump's sentencing for his conviction for falsifying business records has been delayed until after the election.
Surely it needs to be done first? Some strings being pulled there. He's already been found guilty, after all.
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Post by oldie on Sept 6, 2024 21:58:01 GMT
I'm astonished that Trump's sentencing for his conviction for falsifying business records has been delayed until after the election. Surely it needs to be done first? Some strings being pulled there. He's already been found guilty, after all. The corruption of the Supreme Court. This is how it starts
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Post by icegas on Sept 7, 2024 2:21:08 GMT
More insanity from Trump, this on Child Care "The Republican nominee, who has sparked questions over his mental acuity during his campaign, cooked up a rambling reply when asked at the Economic Club of New York whether he’d commit to prioritizing legislation related to child care should he return to the White House. “It’s a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about, that — because, look, child care is child care. It’s, couldn’t, you know, there’s something, you have to have it — in this country, you have to have it,” said Trump before pivoting to talk of imposing tariffs on imported goods." 😱😱😱 Tarlov declared that the former president’s remarks “really highlight a big problem I know I'm a Trump fan and I will defend him, but this none stop attacking of his mental acuity is getting rather silly now from the Democrats. I will admit that Donald does say some wreckless,and controversial stuff at times,and he always has.But he is arguably the most popular president of all time,and will no doubt call upon a record number of voters in November. The US population are not stupid ( don't 😂 ) and if there was a clear decay in his mental capacity, then he would not be as popular as he is. It's ironic that the Democrats were willing to support Biden even tho it was clear for the past two years that he was a very sick, and mentally unwell man.They only stopped backing him, and then bullied him out once they saw him debate Trump, and they knew he had no chance. This includes Trump's opponent in November in Harris. Until Trump does anything like Biden, there isn't even a debate to be had here. It's nonsense.
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Post by oldie on Sept 7, 2024 5:48:28 GMT
More insanity from Trump, this on Child Care "The Republican nominee, who has sparked questions over his mental acuity during his campaign, cooked up a rambling reply when asked at the Economic Club of New York whether he’d commit to prioritizing legislation related to child care should he return to the White House. “It’s a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about, that — because, look, child care is child care. It’s, couldn’t, you know, there’s something, you have to have it — in this country, you have to have it,” said Trump before pivoting to talk of imposing tariffs on imported goods." 😱😱😱 Tarlov declared that the former president’s remarks “really highlight a big problem I know I'm a Trump fan and I will defend him, but this none stop attacking of his mental acuity is getting rather silly now from the Democrats. I will admit that Donald does say some wreckless,and controversial stuff at times,and he always has.But he is arguably the most popular president of all time,and will no doubt call upon a record number of voters in November. The US population are not stupid ( don't 😂 ) and if there was a clear decay in his mental capacity, then he would not be as popular as he is. It's ironic that the Democrats were willing to support Biden even tho it was clear for the past two years that he was a very sick, and mentally unwell man.They only stopped backing him, and then bullied him out once they saw him debate Trump, and they knew he had no chance. This includes Trump's opponent in November in Harris. Until Trump does anything like Biden, there isn't even a debate to be had here. It's nonsense. Even though the evidence is there every time he opens his mouth. For both the Democrats and Republicans next Tuesday's debate could be a make break event. I don't think a "score draw" will suit anyone
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Post by baldrick on Sept 7, 2024 7:24:31 GMT
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Post by oldie on Sept 7, 2024 8:32:12 GMT
It's quite something when senior members of his own party say things like that
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Post by oldie on Sept 7, 2024 11:21:39 GMT
Lock him up
"At first glance, the news that the sentencing in Donald Trump's New York criminal trial has been scheduled for after the presidential election seems like a win for Trump, but what is also possible, and even likely, is that Judge Merchan put the date after the election because he intends for the sentence to include "confinement," either at home or in jail, and he did not want such a dramatic sentence to influence the election."
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Post by icegas on Sept 7, 2024 11:23:45 GMT
But a threat from what? Honestly do these people not understand that we have had four years of Trump already?..This is a genuine question here. It's the same rhetoric that any 'anti Trumper' says, but without any proof, and facts tells us it's not true.. As for Dick Cheney..the fact that he is calling Trump a threat given that this man is war criminal,and warmonger and should be in jail along with Bush and Blair, for the lie's that they told the world about WMD is just scandalous. If they hadn't attacked Afghanistan ,then removed Saddam hussein and Muammar Gaddafi, then the flood of terrorists wouldn't be flowing to the UK, Europe and now the USA via mass immigration. They were both evil men,and 's , but they kept the middle east semi stable, or at least kept regions under control.
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Post by aghast on Sept 7, 2024 16:19:26 GMT
But a threat from what? Honestly do these people not understand that we have had four years of Trump already?..This is a genuine question here. It's the same rhetoric that any 'anti Trumper' says, but without any proof, and facts tells us it's not true.. As for Dick Cheney..the fact that he is calling Trump a threat given that this man is war criminal,and warmonger and should be in jail along with Bush and Blair, for the lie's that they told the world about WMD is just scandalous. If they hadn't attacked Afghanistan ,then removed Saddam hussein and Muammar Gaddafi, then the flood of terrorists wouldn't be flowing to the UK, Europe and now the USA via mass immigration. They were both evil men,and 's , but they kept the middle east semi stable, or at least kept regions under control. I've never felt comfortable with the idea that an evil who murders his own people is good for a region's stability. Ultimately it never is anyway, because these dictatorships are always overturned and the fallout is always messy. And the main issues with migrants in Europe cannot be pinned on Blair, although I didn't support anything he did in the Middle East. Of EU illegal immigrants, Syrians were top (and Putin has dirtied his hands there far more than anyone else), Afghanistan is second and Turkey third.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 8, 2024 16:05:53 GMT
Interesting that Britain and the USA are now being blamed for the rise of the Taliban and the denigration of women to chattel status in Afghan. The fact we left allowed it apparently, which is interesting when so many people were telling the US and UK to leave. Got their way, now its our fault. Admittedly Trump's plan and cut backs prior to Biden carrying it out left a lot to be desired.
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Post by oldie on Sept 8, 2024 16:40:39 GMT
Interesting that Britain and the USA are now being blamed for the rise of the Taliban and the denigration of women to chattel status in Afghan. The fact we left allowed it apparently, which is interesting when so many people were telling the US and UK to leave. Got their way, now its our fault. Admittedly Trump's plan and cut backs prior to Biden carrying it out left a lot to be desired. Where did you read this Cheshire?
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Post by baldrick on Sept 8, 2024 17:25:37 GMT
Interesting that Britain and the USA are now being blamed for the rise of the Taliban and the denigration of women to chattel status in Afghan. The fact we left allowed it apparently, which is interesting when so many people were telling the US and UK to leave. Got their way, now its our fault. Admittedly Trump's plan and cut backs prior to Biden carrying it out left a lot to be desired. Where did you read this Cheshire? It's open source that Trump agreed a deal with the Taliban (Doha conference?) who would come back but would honour the agreement including upholding women's rights. He believed them. Fwiw, Ben Wallace was trying to bring a "coalition of the willing" to stay and mentor the Afghan Security forces with several other countries, but unless the US agreed, it wouldn't work. Biden said no. Once it was known we were leaving, it was game over with the Afghan president legging it leaving the Afghan National Army to fight, which they understandably thought if the president runs away, why should I fight and die. Trump's naivety and Biden wanting to get out cost women their rights so hard won over the past 20 years.
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Post by trymer on Sept 8, 2024 18:28:02 GMT
Interesting that Britain and the USA are now being blamed for the rise of the Taliban and the denigration of women to chattel status in Afghan. The fact we left allowed it apparently, which is interesting when so many people were telling the US and UK to leave. Got their way, now its our fault. Admittedly Trump's plan and cut backs prior to Biden carrying it out left a lot to be desired. To be fair to the Taliban they have succeeded in smashing the heroin production in Afghanistan, a double edged sword though as heroin has been replaced by fentanyl and is killing many more people in the USA than heroin did.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 8, 2024 20:24:51 GMT
Interesting that Britain and the USA are now being blamed for the rise of the Taliban and the denigration of women to chattel status in Afghan. The fact we left allowed it apparently, which is interesting when so many people were telling the US and UK to leave. Got their way, now its our fault. Admittedly Trump's plan and cut backs prior to Biden carrying it out left a lot to be desired. Where did you read this Cheshire? It was a report in the Observer Editorial based on the conclusions of United Nations Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in Afghanistan, Richard Bennett. Interestingly enough I can no longer find the article although it is reported in associated news agencies. It states that - '‘So pervasive is the Taliban’s institutionalised gender oppression, and so slender are the spaces in which women and girls may live freely, that in Afghanistan today almost any act can be characterised as an act of resistance.”
That conclusion from Richard Bennett, the UN special rapporteur on human rights in Afghanistan, encapsulates how unbearably suffocating it is to be female in Afghanistan today: excluded from education and from running a business; forbidden from going outside for a walk or to exercise, to speak or show any part of their face or body outside the home; or even for their voices to be heard singing or reading from within their own home. There is no other country where women and girls are so oppressed on the basis of their sex.
The US and the UK are complicit in this oppression. Their abrupt withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021 triggered the collapse of the Afghan government under which the situation for women and girls was improving.....'
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 8, 2024 20:28:19 GMT
Interesting factcheck from 2021 - www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/The fact is, President Joe Biden and his predecessor, Donald Trump, were both eager to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan and end what Biden referred to in his Aug. 16 speech as “America’s longest war.” The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal. And the Trump administration kept to the pact, reducing U.S. troop levels from about 13,000 to 2,500, even though the Taliban continued to attack Afghan government forces and welcomed al-Qaeda terrorists into the Taliban leadership. It includes an interesting timeline. The USA & partners met their obligations. Guess what, the Taliban didn't....
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Post by oldie on Sept 8, 2024 20:39:29 GMT
Where did you read this Cheshire? It was a report in the Observer Editorial based on the conclusions of United Nations Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in Afghanistan, Richard Bennett. Interestingly enough I can no longer find the article although it is reported in associated news agencies. It states that - '‘So pervasive is the Taliban’s institutionalised gender oppression, and so slender are the spaces in which women and girls may live freely, that in Afghanistan today almost any act can be characterised as an act of resistance.”
That conclusion from Richard Bennett, the UN special rapporteur on human rights in Afghanistan, encapsulates how unbearably suffocating it is to be female in Afghanistan today: excluded from education and from running a business; forbidden from going outside for a walk or to exercise, to speak or show any part of their face or body outside the home; or even for their voices to be heard singing or reading from within their own home. There is no other country where women and girls are so oppressed on the basis of their sex.
The US and the UK are complicit in this oppression. Their abrupt withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021 triggered the collapse of the Afghan government under which the situation for women and girls was improving.....'Personally I think that was a battle we could not win. Such is the tribal nature of the country, with three main languages and a culture of misogyny that transcends Islam. I truly believe that we were never going to achieve our goals when only a small middle class in Kabul believed in them, whilst hampered by an overtly corrupt government. Walk away.
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