Another manager bites the dust

Thanks for a little bit more colour. Not really enough to stand up in court though is it? And you 100% sure you've not been chatting to Wael?
Anyway - I like the bit in bold. Reads perfectly in the voice of Vicky Pollard. Brilliant.
Yeah, but, no but, yeah but.  

If you cant be arsed to back up a statement or accusation then dont make it.  It makes you look a mug. Also, if you cant produce the evidence as to why you have your opinion, it means your opinion is skewed or completely misinformed. I know what I have defended the previous ownership on, I also know where and when I have been critical of them.  

I have never spat my dummy out over someone having a different opinion.  Basically what you are saying is that because I might not fall in line with popular opinion on here, which is particularly against the establishment then I must therefore be a one of the other side and inside the pocket of Wael.  What an utterly strange place in which to view from.

The bit that no one ever answers when I ask them is why would I be such an apologist for him? It makes no sense. I'm not really interested in knowing anything from inside the boardroom that it makes a huge difference to my life. I get no finiancial benefits. I get no preferential discounts for my season tickets. There is nothing that makes it advantageous to me to be "the unofficial spokesman" and a "mouthpiece" as I'm so often called. I'm also that busy running 3 businesses, having a young family and a building project on the go that I really dont get the time to be that involved or want to be that involved.


 

Well I am entitled to have an opinion and I don’t have to justify that to you or anyone else. It is based though on my perception of what you have posted on here and I have no intention of challenging myself on this when you act like a know-it all aggressive **** ***. Plenty of evidence on here where you spit your dummy out when you get challenged. Recent spats that come to mind - SDG, Kingswood Polak and you seem unable to engage with Swiss’s entirely reasonable posts on the financial mismanagement whilst the Al Qadi’s leadership in a civil manner, and now me. You seem to have an awfully large bag of chips on either shoulder too about some of these posters. Here’s a suggestion for you. Have a look at their posts and then compare those with yours. Absolutely no surprise that what you post here is not received as absolute truth with fawning adulation.

I have no idea what your motivations are and tbh I couldn’t give a flying one either. You are getting some frank feedback thatyou come across here as a cheerleader for the Al Qadis and what you choose to do with that is entirely up to you

As your opinion is about me, I have absolute justification to tell you you're wrong and call you out. You've given your "frank feedback" and I've asked you to provide at least one example and you couldnt, so now have recoiled.

There is no chip on my shoulder about anyone, but I'm a believer that if you have something to say, say it to someone's face and don't be a sh1thouse.

KP and SDG have all come for me personally at some point by talking about me behind my back, both stood on their own tails by chatting to people who were actually loyal friends, and they got busted talking 💩. Hence me calling them out for it and then they went on the defensive when they got caught.

One of SDGs best mates, Rick Johansom made a strange call to another friend of mine the other day asking him if me and that person were actually friends. Very weird. Probably testing the waters before making the same mistake as SDG did.

So fair play to you, at least you did it to my face straight up, so you're not a total sh1thouse even if you can't back up your opinion or anything you believe about me with any actual facts or evidence. Especially as you've never met me in person.

Im not asking for anyone's adulation, i have zero agenda, no ulterior motives and not part of any inforumwars.com conspiracy theories that bondi is suggesting.

I've come to the forums because (a) I'm peed off that the AS owe me and others money and haven't paid up. That's dishonourable for starters. (B) the new ownership are out of their depth already. It's loaded with friends and family who are amateurs and trying to do the jobs of professionals and are messing it right up, (c)it's all there in plain sight (d) they are trashing the reputation of this club by not behaving like proper owners in negotiations for transfers and other areas of club business.

I don't care whether you or anyone else wants to believe it or not, I really don't give a flying fig, but as fans we deserve a whole bunch better than what we are actually getting and if they listened to the fans and put some structure in now, they could actually save their little championship manager project.

I have no idea what Rick wanted either in the same way I had no idea why I was such an interest to you? Why go through other people to ask? Of course you had some kind of ulterior motive which I have since found out which was rather sly.

Thats fair.  As a caveat to that though, I'm not the only fan of our club that know or mix in football circles.  And those people are all saying the same and we have no reason to lie about it.  Mainly because it hurts a bit when the carelessness of people who represent us leave a bad impression.  We should always be respectful and professional even in a heavy defeat.

Did you ever listen to the podcast with DMac and his club secretary?  If not, have a listen, it makes for interesting listening, not just on how we made a total hash of it, but actually what work has to go in to any transfer from any club.  When it comes to transfer negotiations theres a measure of respect between owners.  That was lost with DMac and it took a phone call live on SSN from Wael to try and sort it out.  The P'boro club secretart said that the club secretaries stick together, its a band of brothers, they all know each other and speak very regularly. Except we dont have a club secretary, so that made life harder for her, and at our end, Abdul and Tom attempted to handle it themselves and made a cats arse of it all. Rather than realise this is a bit of skill and recruit a proper club sec, they have totally ignored that and history seems to have started to repeat itself with the negotiations by, according to Dave Artell, submitting 3 bids on a contract with a release clause!!  




Agreed.


We do know that as majority shareholders, the AS are responsible now for running and structuring the club.  Once you give away your majority share, you have to fall in line.  It's not like car finance where someone else owns it and you get to drive it.  The AS are the majority shareholders now, which means the buck now stops with Hussain and Abdul and its their tree we must bark up.  Which is why when press put in for interview requests to answer some questions, its for the AS and not Wael.


As above.  I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.  I'm merely saying, these are the new guys and 6 months in this is what they havent done, which should have been done and what they have done they have made a total mess of.  Do they have the experience, mettle, contacts and humilty to allow professionals in or is their aim to reduce costs by continually fudging it themselves?  What are there plans for a structure?





Perhaps.  Wael has made some grave errors on his watch for sure and all of them completely avoidable with some better help, advice and experience.  Same with Nick. Same with Geoff and Flook.  People arent perfect and most of the decisions are often made with the very best intentions even if it isnt the correct one with hindsight or even with the possibility of forseeing the failure as its happening.  So far with the AS, it appears to me to be incompetence personified.


And I agree with him to a large degree on this.  But how is it when I am questioning the AS competence I am just accused of being a Wael supporter rather than looking it objectively and thinking that myself or others  may have a point?  


Swiss and I have sparred, debated and discussed many things over the years.  Some things I do agree with him on, some things, which can be wildly speculative from my POV I wont agree with, but that doesnt mean its because I curry favour blindly with Wael or anyone else.  

I haven't made any mistakes where you are concerned I just find engaging with you a waste of time. I know what I know and you have your opinions which you have expressed using vulgarity and insults so just leave it there. 

Just to add, I have no idea what you, your mystery friend and Rick have in common other than Bristol Rovers bringing us together. 

Who was the last Rovers manager who left without being sacked? I can't think of one since Gerry Francis Mk1.

Oh right.  Thank you.   I probably shouldn't be surprised.