Palestinians

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Peace in Gaza

stop killing the innocent Palestine kids it's murder

Yeah it's outrageous something approaching 10,000 Palestinians dead and a large proportion of them children and civilians, how can that be deemed as self defence? I think they're trying to annex Gaza. UK/US foreign policy has been terrible in the past too, but how people can claim to the genocide of children and civilians is a just cause is beyond me.

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Israel doesn't want to annex the Gaza Strip. Yitzhak Rabin, Israel's former PM, once expressed a wish that the territory would 'sink into the sea'. It is one of the most densely populated parts of the world, and the UN fairly recently questioned if it would be able to sustain human life. Israel will probably look to sub-contract the running of the Strip to the PA or Egypt. 

The term 'genocide' has become heavily politicized in a way I find to be very distasteful. People know full well when they use the word, that they are implicitly drawing a parallel with what happened in 1939-45, in a way that will cause maximum offence and distress. It is historically illiterate and also devalues actual genocides that have occurred, such as the Holodomor in Ukraine. 

In my experience, even fully assimilated British Jews often have mannerisms or ways of speaking/thinking that give them away. 

My point is that most British people won't encounter a Jewish person in their day-to-day business, and so anti-Semitism is less likely to arise as a consideration. They are more likely to be indifferent than strongly hostile to Jews and Judaism. 

Yep, there is no way Israel wants to annex Gaza. Egypt also has no interest in Gaza either. Nor does Jorden. In fact, both Egypt and Jorden are refusing to take in Palestinian refugees ! The truth is that the Palestinians are not very popular in the Arab world. They have always been used as 'useful idiots' by the others. Let's not forget that they tried to take over Jorden, and were kicked out. They then tried Lebenon, and were kicked out.

Compared to what's all around them, the Israelis are good people.

I think your continual efforts to deny the self-evident, obvious and clearly demonstrated anti-Semitism of the Islamic world speak more obviously of an inherent prejudice, or at the very least an inability to objectively assess the facts that have been placed in front of you.



I use the term 'assimilated' to distinguish between Jews who are religious and who remain visibly Jewish (e.g. Hasidic Jews) and Jews who have sought to integrate into British society to the fullest extent - they most often do this by becoming secular and only being 'culturally Jewish' and celebrating Jewish holidays.



However, in my experience even fully assimilated Jews often show some influence of their culture in mannerisms and ways of speaking that you would not ordinarily encounter. This is simply an observation that, on speaking to somebody who is not visibly Jewish, I have gradually realised that they are in fact Jewish, before they have explicitly told me this. This is not offensive or prejudiced in any way.


For example, I can often tell by the attitude towards education. Jews, like other minorities, tend to place a greater value on education and are less hostile to those who seek to better themselves through education. They also tend to have a greater respect for professional qualifications than ordinary British people. 


At what point did I say that Jews are not UK citizens? I did not. You are entitled to criticise me for what I have said, but not for what you would like me to have said.