Palestinians

Looking at the murders and violent protests in western countries we can see that multiculturalism is fine when things are ok but an event thousands of miles away can soon make things go wrong, a cricket match in Dubai (?) caused riots in the Midlands,the events in Israel have already caused murders.

Yes, I think I can. Its fine for you to maintain a strong attachment to your 'parent' country, and its fine for you to express this attachment. However, when you do, make sure that you respect this country's laws and other people around you. Don't import conflicts from abroad into our country, and don't presume that you can co-opt public spaces for this purpose. 

Pro-Palestinians protests have crossed this line, as they are creating a sense of insecurity and fear among the country's British Jewish community. They should have been banned. If pro-Palestinians protestors had taken to the streets to protest against Hamas's actions and to make it clear that the terrorist group did not speak or act in their name, then I might feel differently. 

The problem for peace between Hamas and Israel, is that laying down arms has radically different outcomes on each side. If Hamas laid down its arms, it would result in a peace. If Israel laid down its arms, it would result in a holocaust.

From the river to the sea, chanted by Hamas's Jihadis and London sympathisers, means seven million dead Israeli Jews. Remove Hamas and Netanyahu, and give Palestinians full rights.

Thats not true. in my opinion.

The thing that will lead to a path to Peace is to go back to the borders that existed before the 6 day war of 1967, the removal of Jewish settlements set up since then on what was Palestinian territory and the setting up of a true 2 State  arrangement. That would be seen as a concession by the Israelis and would enable huge pressure to be brought upon the extremists by Arab States, including cutting off their funding. This is the political solution we all crave (well most of us)

Well, there were over 271,000 who described themselves as Jews at the last census in 2021. Not insignificant
In 2021 there were 2,261 reported incidents of Anti Semitism  a 135% increase over 2015 the year before the nationalists took over in the UK and fooled the population into Brexit etc (control of borders etc, 7Million Muslims waiting to come here when Turkey joins the EU (UKIP))

Funny that (its not)


There is so much to unpack there from such gross generalisations and half truths.
But this did make me smile

History tells us something different
I will give you two examples
Shiraz:
You ever wonder how/why a Red Wine from Australia is named after an ancient city in Iran? (Clue, The Jewish Community in Shiraz)
Andalusia:
"Yet, paradoxically, medieval Spain also holds the distinction of being the sole place in Europe where Jews, Muslims, and Christians lived side by side on the same soil, frequently in harmony. This unique commingling has given rise to a good deal of romance and theorizing among modern scholars about medieval coexistence, or convivencia. At times tolerant, at other times intensely intolerant, Spain’s intergroup relations formed a fragile coexistence of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Although often tenuous, the coexistence of diverse languages, peoples, and religions produced an extraordinary symbiosis and distinctive civilization manifested in art, architecture, music, science, and literature. This medieval pluralism was particularly well suited to the expression of Jewish culture."

Yep real, real "native" anti Semitism.

I am speaking hypothetically, so not to you directly. 

You may have seen the recent protests in London? They included a protestor who was openly calling for Jews to be slaughtered, which I presume is a hate crime?

People ripping down posters of abducted Israeli civilians, including children and a dementia sufferer, is apparently not illegal. However, it is abhorrent and disgraceful.

In my view, it is only a matter of time before the British Jewish community suffers a terrorist attack. Jewish schools have been forced to close, antisemitic incidents have soared, and people carrying or displaying Israeli flags have already been physically attacked. The police are also apparently more concerned with not offending a particular community than with upholding law and order. 

Freedom of expression but not freedom to express hatred towards a particular or celebrate violence. The 7/10 attacks were openly celebrated on the capital's streets.

It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the BBC managed to find one of the very few British Jews who don't support military action against Hamas. I imagine they have these kinds of people on speed-dial. 

Trymer was referring to first, second or third-generation immigrant families who retain a link to their 'home' country. I am again speaking hypothetically, at the point when they become British citizens. 

I wouldn't say an 'awful lot'. One aspect that concerns me that is that religious groups and activists seem to be prominent in the protests. Historically, the international Palestinian solidarity movement has been secular. 

One thing these groups and activists don't seem to get is that they are effectively co-opting the Palestinian cause for their own (religious) purposes. Hamas have only existed since 1988, and for a large part of its history, the Palestinian national movement has been secular. Religion also isn't a massively big deal for many Palestinians. 

271,000 of a population of 67 million is not a large minority. Also remember that this community is largely based in Manchester and North London. A lot of British people would never meet a Jewish person in their day-to-day business. 

So would you deny?

1) That anti-Semitism is officially condoned and even promoted by state authorities in the region.
2) That there is an Islamic tradition of anti-Semitism, which is clearly not the same as saying that Islam is itself 'anti-Semitic.
3) That European countries that accepted large number of migrants and refugees from the region are trying to combat a 'new' anti-Semitism that is not rooted in the receiving society?
4) That anti-Semitism in the region often borrows directly from the vocabulary and imagery of Nazism? 
5) That those recently calling for Jews to be gassed in Australia were not white Australians?
6) That Hamas is virulently anti-Semitic?

You are entitled to your opinion.
Most of that is gross generalisation without reference to much evidence at all. 

Sorry, but I had to laugh at that.
How on earth, upon meeting someone for the first time, do you determine that someone is Jewish or not?