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Post by warehamgas on Apr 23, 2024 15:12:26 GMT
Thanks Dr. JD. That looks quite impressive. It looks like a single unit and not a tall stand with lean-tos either side. I wonder which one we'll get? 😉
UTG!
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 23, 2024 18:06:03 GMT
That looks impressive, but how does the seating work compared to what's there now? Also how does it marry up with the new South Stand, which seems half finished at the east end of the stand? (he's not a real architect. Well, as far as I know he isn't) According to wiki he was a "mathematician, astronomer, teacher, astrologer, occultist, and alchemist". Building a new stand in Horfield should be a piece of piss.
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Post by Dr John Dee on Apr 23, 2024 19:03:09 GMT
Anyhoo, I was envisioning vomitories that basically line up with the existing staircases either side of the existing structure (might need more than two). Linking up with the South Stand was a requirement too far for me, on my MosCoW matrix it was a nice to have, not a must have.
Will look further in to my black mirror to see what I can glean from the angels about building stands...
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Post by russiangas on Apr 23, 2024 20:34:51 GMT
Anyhoo, I was envisioning vomitories that basically line up with the existing staircases either side of the existing structure (might need more than two). Linking up with the South Stand was a requirement too far for me, on my MosCoW matrix it was a nice to have, not a must have. Will look further in to my black mirror to see what I can glean from the angels about building stands... What are the vomitiries for? Incase people drink too much at the bar pre-match?
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Post by The Concept on Apr 23, 2024 20:58:02 GMT
Anyhoo, I was envisioning vomitories that basically line up with the existing staircases either side of the existing structure (might need more than two). Linking up with the South Stand was a requirement too far for me, on my MosCoW matrix it was a nice to have, not a must have. Will look further in to my black mirror to see what I can glean from the angels about building stands... What are the vomitiries for? Incase people drink too much at the bar pre-match? Well, in a way yes, as the etymology of Vomitorium is 'spew forth'. But in the visual way that the crowd of people spew forth and exit out of the stadium, rather than the crowd being physically sick.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2024 21:02:16 GMT
rather than the crowd being physically sick. A few times during Graydoom.
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Post by baselswh on May 10, 2024 16:52:42 GMT
Apparently Rovers have applied to BCC to erect a big screen "next" to the South Stand.In that gap in seating on south east corner?
A formality I assume .
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Post by The Concept on May 10, 2024 18:05:28 GMT
Nope, will be on top the South West stand.
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Post by Icegas on May 10, 2024 18:37:47 GMT
Nope, will be on top the South West stand. Best position for it at. It will fill in the gap and bring attention away from the fact that the SW corner is much smaller that the south end of the structure. The only other logical place would be where the gap is near the away end, but thats been left there so the new east stand will be able to connect once built.
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Post by JeffNZ on May 10, 2024 18:44:16 GMT
Apparently Rovers have applied to BCC to erect a big screen "next" to the South Stand.In that gap in seating on south east corner? A formality I assume . I suppose it will give the crowd something to watch while the football's on.
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Post by The Concept on May 10, 2024 19:01:24 GMT
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Post by The Concept on May 10, 2024 19:24:11 GMT
Nope, will be on top the South West stand. Best position for it at. It will fill in the gap and bring attention away from the fact that the SW corner is much smaller that the south end of the structure. The only other logical place would be where the gap is near the away end, but thats been left there so the new east stand will be able to connect once built.Sorry, I don't believe that for one second. The South Stand was envisaged and planned before the AlSaeed family came on board, and it wasn't until the South Stand was up that there was any mention of further developments at the ground, and that came from Hussain AlSaeed. Quite apart from that, how does a gap of 12 seats in the top block mean it is there to link to a proposed stand to the side of it? Why would you need to leave a gap in one stand to be able to link to a stand at a right angle to it? And the East Stand will either be an extension of the existing stand, or a knock down or re-build. Either way it will be a more permanent concrete construction, so how would that link to the Meccano style South Stand? I've seen people mention this on the other Rovers online forum, and then it becomes fact. I did see that people who attended the open forum asked the question and the reply from the top table was they didn't know! I've got no idea why the gap was left there. My pure guesswork would be one of the following: the original plan to put the new screen there; it was planned to use it for disabled supporters, or it's due to the fact the old Alton Road entrance affected the groundwork. There is no timescale for a new East Stand, it could be years away. As said before, the South Stand is a Meccano style, so would be easy to add seats and take them away from that section. If there is no problem with seats being there they should get on and install them, and worry about any proposed East Stand at a later date.
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Post by baselswh on May 10, 2024 20:36:41 GMT
Have the board given BCC the plans for the East Stand etc yet? According to Al it would of been about now,but it won't go publi***til PP is given. 🤞
Edit. I see you can't have the words "public" and "until" together.😏
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Post by russiangas on May 11, 2024 10:37:20 GMT
Have the board given BCC the plans for the East Stand etc yet? According to Al it would of been about now,but it won't go publi***til PP is given. 🤞 Edit. I see you can't have the words "public" and "until" together.😏 Surely they will announce the plans before planning permission is actually gained as the submission will be on the council website for anyone to view?
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Post by baselswh on May 11, 2024 10:46:49 GMT
Have the board given BCC the plans for the East Stand etc yet? According to Al it would of been about now,but it won't go publi***til PP is given. 🤞 Edit. I see you can't have the words "public" and "until" together.😏 Surely they will announce the plans before planning permission is actually gained as the submission will be on the council website for anyone to view? That's true. I'm just hoping that we may relatively soon,see artists impression of it,in all its glory.
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Post by russiangas on May 11, 2024 10:51:01 GMT
Surely they will announce the plans before planning permission is actually gained as the submission will be on the council website for anyone to view? That's true. I'm just hoping that we may relatively soon,see artists impression of it,in all its glory. Yeah, will be very interesting to see what we will actually get.
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Post by Icegas on May 11, 2024 16:44:56 GMT
Best position for it at. It will fill in the gap and bring attention away from the fact that the SW corner is much smaller that the south end of the structure. The only other logical place would be where the gap is near the away end, but thats been left there so the new east stand will be able to connect once built.Sorry, I don't believe that for one second. The South Stand was envisaged and planned before the AlSaeed family came on board, and it wasn't until the South Stand was up that there was any mention of further developments at the ground, and that came from Hussain AlSaeed. Quite apart from that, how does a gap of 12 seats in the top block mean it is there to link to a proposed stand to the side of it? Why would you need to leave a gap in one stand to be able to link to a stand at a right angle to it? And the East Stand will either be an extension of the existing stand, or a knock down or re-build. Either way it will be a more permanent concrete construction, so how would that link to the Meccano style South Stand? I've seen people mention this on the other Rovers online forum, and then it becomes fact. I did see that people who attended the open forum asked the question and the reply from the top table was they didn't know! I've got no idea why the gap was left there. My pure guesswork would be one of the following: the original plan to put the new screen there; it was planned to use it for disabled supporters, or it's due to the fact the old Alton Road entrance affected the groundwork. There is no timescale for a new East Stand, it could be years away. As said before, the South Stand is a Meccano style, so would be easy to add seats and take them away from that section. If there is no problem with seats being there they should get on and install them, and worry about any proposed East Stand at a later date. I'm only going by what I read on one of our forums, which from what I remember came from an official club source in the past 6 months. Also if you look at the original plans online the design clearly shows a gap where it is from day one so maybe there is some truth in it. I thought it would be for the screen.
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Post by Angas on May 11, 2024 20:38:48 GMT
Nope, will be on top the South West stand. But will it be viewable from the west stand? Doesn't look like it to me. Maybe we'll have two - this one which needs planning permission and another where the previous one used to be which I'm guessing may not need pp. I can't see any logic to just having this new one on its own.
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Post by The Concept on May 12, 2024 8:44:55 GMT
Sorry, I don't believe that for one second. The South Stand was envisaged and planned before the AlSaeed family came on board, and it wasn't until the South Stand was up that there was any mention of further developments at the ground, and that came from Hussain AlSaeed. Quite apart from that, how does a gap of 12 seats in the top block mean it is there to link to a proposed stand to the side of it? Why would you need to leave a gap in one stand to be able to link to a stand at a right angle to it? And the East Stand will either be an extension of the existing stand, or a knock down or re-build. Either way it will be a more permanent concrete construction, so how would that link to the Meccano style South Stand? I've seen people mention this on the other Rovers online forum, and then it becomes fact. I did see that people who attended the open forum asked the question and the reply from the top table was they didn't know! I've got no idea why the gap was left there. My pure guesswork would be one of the following: the original plan to put the new screen there; it was planned to use it for disabled supporters, or it's due to the fact the old Alton Road entrance affected the groundwork. There is no timescale for a new East Stand, it could be years away. As said before, the South Stand is a Meccano style, so would be easy to add seats and take them away from that section. If there is no problem with seats being there they should get on and install them, and worry about any proposed East Stand at a later date. I'm only going by what I read on one of our forums, which from what I remember came from an official club source in the past 6 months. Also if you look at the original plans online the design clearly shows a gap where it is from day one so maybe there is some truth in it. I thought it would be for the screen. Another guess is it could have been left for a police control box. Something else that someone was posting on the other forum was that the same link was in place on the south stand to south-west stand, with the top section missing. But I can't see it - the whole height of the south stand stretches the whole width of the pitch to the south-west stand, whereas it clearly stops 12 seats short of the width of the pitch in the top section towards the east terrace. It's easy to see on the map of the ground: www.eticketing.co.uk/bristolrovers/EDP/Season/Index/241Anyway, the east stand could be years away. I say put those seats in the top corner, increase the capacity for away supporters, then if at some point in the future that section needs to be removed the construction is such that it's a simple matter to do.
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Post by The Concept on May 12, 2024 8:53:04 GMT
Nope, will be on top the South West stand. But will it be viewable from the west stand? Doesn't look like it to me. Maybe we'll have two - this one which needs planning permission and another where the previous one used to be which I'm guessing may not need pp. I can't see any logic to just having this new one on its own. Looks to me that you won't be able to see it from the west stand. The ideal situation, for everyone in the ground, would be a screen in each corner. Or at least 2 screens placed in opposing corners, on a diagonal. Otherwise there will always be part of the ground unable to view it. Something that isn't clear is the positioning on the south-west stand: whether it will be square on to the pitch, or angled towards the opposite corner. The second of which could benefit the Thatchers Terrace.
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