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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 13, 2023 13:06:20 GMT
Has anything been said about the timeline for the East Stand revamp? (I know we’ll all scoff when they tell us, but the new owners seem, so far, more reliable than many in the past so I will insist on remaining hopeful) 2024 start planning permission and build on both ends presumably should be completed by end of next season |
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Post by The Concept on Dec 13, 2023 20:05:10 GMT
Has anything been said about the timeline for the East Stand revamp? (I know we’ll all scoff when they tell us, but the new owners seem, so far, more reliable than many in the past so I will insist on remaining hopeful) I don't think anything has been mentioned since Mr AlSaeed was interviewed at the ground and talked about extending either side of the existing East Stand. My thoughts are knock it down and start again. I also think the North Stand should be built first, and now we know we are staying at The Mem build a cantilevered stand, rather than the modular design at the South end. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 20:31:42 GMT
Has anything been said about the timeline for the East Stand revamp? (I know we’ll all scoff when they tell us, but the new owners seem, so far, more reliable than many in the past so I will insist on remaining hopeful) I don't think anything has been mentioned since Mr AlSaeed was interviewed at the ground and talked about extending either side of the existing East Stand. My thoughts are knock it down and start again. I also think the North Stand should be built first, and now we know we are staying at The Mem build a cantilevered stand, rather than the modular design at the South end. We conducted a full costing of refurbish v rebuild and a complete demolition and rebuild was by far the cheapest option even taking into account the loss of capacity income during the rebuild time. After listening to the new owner stating that the West Stand would stay as it is leads me to believe that they have done the same in depth costings as there is no financial gain from rebuilding the West Stand. |
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Post by Dr John Dee on Dec 14, 2023 11:29:02 GMT
I don't think anything has been mentioned since Mr AlSaeed was interviewed at the ground and talked about extending either side of the existing East Stand. My thoughts are knock it down and start again. I also think the North Stand should be built first, and now we know we are staying at The Mem build a cantilevered stand, rather than the modular design at the South end. We conducted a full costing of refurbish v rebuild and a complete demolition and rebuild was by far the cheapest option even taking into account the loss of capacity income during the rebuild time. After listening to the new owner stating that the West Stand would stay as it is leads me to believe that they have done the same in depth costings as there is no financial gain from rebuilding the West Stand. Even a refurb of the existing structure is going to be pretty significant. The access via the front entry gantries won't work if you are going all the way along and down to the pitch and would probably need to be replaced by tunnels and vomitories. The raised level means any additional stands are going to have to match the rake and size of the existing structure or be really small so the roof does not block site lines, like the temporary tent thing. I s at in the Centenary stand once. It was a bit like one of the Quidditch stands from Harry Potter... |
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Post by laughinggas on Dec 14, 2023 13:51:33 GMT
We conducted a full costing of refurbish v rebuild and a complete demolition and rebuild was by far the cheapest option even taking into account the loss of capacity income during the rebuild time. After listening to the new owner stating that the West Stand would stay as it is leads me to believe that they have done the same in depth costings as there is no financial gain from rebuilding the West Stand. Even a refurb of the existing structure is going to be pretty significant. The access via the front entry gantries won't work if you are going all the way along and down to the pitch and would probably need to be replaced by tunnels and vomitories. The raised level means any additional stands are going to have to match the rake and size of the existing structure or be really small so the roof does not block site lines, like the temporary tent thing. I s at in the Centenary stand once. It was a bit like one of the Quidditch stands from Harry Potter... Your observations seem correct to me. Also what about the extra numbers exiting 3 exits onto Filton Avenue. Could be another 6000. Then where will all the bus stops be for park and rides. Parking will be a mare. |
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 14, 2023 15:28:19 GMT
Even a refurb of the existing structure is going to be pretty significant. The access via the front entry gantries won't work if you are going all the way along and down to the pitch and would probably need to be replaced by tunnels and vomitories. The raised level means any additional stands are going to have to match the rake and size of the existing structure or be really small so the roof does not block site lines, like the temporary tent thing. I s at in the Centenary stand once. It was a bit like one of the Quidditch stands from Harry Potter... Your observations seem correct to me. Also what about the extra numbers exiting 3 exits onto Filton Avenue. Could be another 6000. Then where will all the bus stops be for park and rides. Parking will be a mare. By the time it's complete our fantastic (not) Bristol City Council will have either completely banned all motor cars or more likely driverless cars will be the norm and superb public transport by the metro mayor will be in place or more likely an e bike park will be complete on Horfield Common. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 18:29:30 GMT
Even a refurb of the existing structure is going to be pretty significant. The access via the front entry gantries won't work if you are going all the way along and down to the pitch and would probably need to be replaced by tunnels and vomitories. The raised level means any additional stands are going to have to match the rake and size of the existing structure or be really small so the roof does not block site lines, like the temporary tent thing. I s at in the Centenary stand once. It was a bit like one of the Quidditch stands from Harry Potter... Your observations seem correct to me. Also what about the extra numbers exiting 3 exits onto Filton Avenue. Could be another 6000. Then where will all the bus stops be for park and rides. Parking will be a mare. The club received planning for a 17,000 stadium which included a residents parking scheme. I've always thought that the section of Filton Avenue outside the stadium should be closed for at least half an hour so that pedestrians could get away from the stadium quickly and safely to public transport or if they insist on driving, parking a fair distance away from the stadium. |
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Post by russiangas on Dec 17, 2023 1:27:23 GMT
Has anything been said about the timeline for the East Stand revamp? (I know we’ll all scoff when they tell us, but the new owners seem, so far, more reliable than many in the past so I will insist on remaining hopeful) I don't think anything has been mentioned since Mr AlSaeed was interviewed at the ground and talked about extending either side of the existing East Stand. My thoughts are knock it down and start again. I also think the North Stand should be built first, and now we know we are staying at The Mem build a cantilevered stand, rather than the modular design at the South end. Let's just hope we don't end up with some kind of mish mash bodge job. The South Stand looks good but still has all those supporting pillars which I'm guessing will affect the view of some people, maybe we there will be a few cheap seats in the stand, lol. I can't see why there is no plan to develop the west stand as surely the capacity could be up round the 20,000 mark if this was done. Be interesting to see how long it is now before we start seeing some plans. At least the new owner does actually seem to be doing something finally, but from the noises we hear I can't help thinking it's all going to be done a bit on the cheap. That said even so at least we are hopefully finally going to get something approximating a modern stadium. |
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Dec 22, 2023 15:43:08 GMT
Following further works over recent weeks, the club can confirm that the South Stand project is progressing well, and it is hoped that the remaining works will be finished early in the new year.
The drainage and tarmac surfacing work was completed yesterday, allowing the remaining fitting out of the concourse, toilets, and concessions to proceed.
As explained in the previous update we will need to obtain building control sign-off before we can commence any test events. We will provide a timeline for the test events as soon as we can confirm all the elements are in place.
As an interim measure, we are pleased to confirm that following a Safety Advisory Group meeting yesterday, permission has been granted to extend our temporary usage of the south stand for the Christmas period.
The small increase will allow all the South Stand season ticket holders to sit in the Southwest corner of the new stand. Season ticket holders for this area will receive an e-ticket in the same way as they have been for previous fixtures.
Again, we would like to thank all the season ticket holders for their patience while the work has been ongoing.
The club would like to again place on record its thanks to the club's Safety Advisory Group members and the club staff who have been working hard to progress the project.
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Post by droitwichgas on Dec 22, 2023 19:32:49 GMT
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Post by lostinspace on Dec 22, 2023 19:49:32 GMT
[br A case of money is no object there, they (owners) have " sold the club" ,( not literally) almost to a global audience because of who they are, it has become a money generator |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2023 20:27:44 GMT
I doubt they have had the same ground issues as there was a structure there before. |
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Post by The Concept on Dec 22, 2023 21:58:38 GMT
Following further works over recent weeks, the club can confirm that the South Stand project is progressing well, and it is hoped that the remaining works will be finished early in the new year. The drainage and tarmac surfacing work was completed yesterday, allowing the remaining fitting out of the concourse, toilets, and concessions to proceed. As explained in the previous update we will need to obtain building control sign-off before we can commence any test events. We will provide a timeline for the test events as soon as we can confirm all the elements are in place. As an interim measure, we are pleased to confirm that following a Safety Advisory Group meeting yesterday, permission has been granted to extend our temporary usage of the south stand for the Christmas period. The small increase will allow all the South Stand season ticket holders to sit in the Southwest corner of the new stand. Season ticket holders for this area will receive an e-ticket in the same way as they have been for previous fixtures. Again, we would like to thank all the season ticket holders for their patience while the work has been ongoing. The club would like to again place on record its thanks to the club's Safety Advisory Group members and the club staff who have been working hard to progress the project. This must explain why a few hundred tickets suddenly became available yesterday online. It appears that a certain number of spots around the ground are held back for people who bought season-tickets in the South / South-West, until they know whether they want a full refund for a match or take a place in another area of the ground. What a complete and utter faff. Every home match the club have to contact people they sold season-tickets to, for a stand that no way never ever was going to be built in time, and find out what they want to do. I presume this means either: - They find them another seat in the ground = no change in cost. - The person chooses to stand in a different part of the ground = a proportion is refunded for using a cheaper spot. - The person decides not to go = a pro-rata refund of their season-ticket. |
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Post by The Concept on Dec 22, 2023 22:01:51 GMT
Seems to be a different rule for temporary stands. You see temporary scaffolding stands going up on golf courses and cricket grounds all round the country, and being used the next day. However, I know which type I'd feel more secure sitting in. And there is no way I'd ever sit in that Party Stand at Old Trafford! |
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Post by bluetornados on Apr 16, 2024 19:25:00 GMT
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Post by swissgas on Apr 19, 2024 14:21:55 GMT
In the BRFC Ltd accounts for 22/23 the £1.32 million secured loan from Nationwide Finance, which was said to be for the South Stand, is shown within creditors.
But as far as I can see there is nothing related to the South Stand showing as a fixed asset in these accounts even though it would be usual for a supplier to ask for a substantial downpayment before starting work on a project like this.
The bank balance at year end is £221K.
So what happened to the remaining £1.1 million ?
In the coming weeks and months I fear we are going to discover just how much the impulsive decision to go ahead with the South Stand has cost Rovers.
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Post by Dr John Dee on Apr 23, 2024 11:10:31 GMT
Regular viewers will be pleased to learn I have done some more photoshop, I think I have alsow worked out a way to get extensions to the Centenary stand without having to build too big a structure each side. Apologies for my shonky photoshop in advance.  |
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 23, 2024 11:23:38 GMT
Regular viewers will be pleased to learn I have done some more photoshop, I think I have alsow worked out a way to get extensions to the Centenary stand without having to build too big a structure each side. Apologies for my shonky photoshop in advance. View Attachmentnice effort |
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Post by droitwichgas on Apr 23, 2024 13:57:16 GMT
Regular viewers will be pleased to learn I have done some more photoshop, I think I have alsow worked out a way to get extensions to the Centenary stand without having to build too big a structure each side. Apologies for my shonky photoshop in advance. View AttachmentThat looks impressive, but how does the seating work compared to what's there now? Also how does it marry up with the new South Stand, which seems half finished at the east end of the stand? |
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 23, 2024 14:24:49 GMT
Regular viewers will be pleased to learn I have done some more photoshop, I think I have alsow worked out a way to get extensions to the Centenary stand without having to build too big a structure each side. Apologies for my shonky photoshop in advance. View AttachmentThat looks impressive, but how does the seating work compared to what's there now? Also how does it marry up with the new South Stand, which seems half finished at the east end of the stand? (he's not a real architect. Well, as far as I know he isn't) |
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