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Post by baselswh on Sept 12, 2024 17:45:20 GMT
It's not unique to Islam, is it. Too many kissing cousins over the generations has led to many handicapped Muslim babies.Poor things. Oldie can't help being nasty,but turn it around onto his precious Islam,offer a fair and factual criticism and he's exposed as a goodness knows what. Of course it's not "unique" to Muslims,but eg 55% of Muslim UK Pakistanis marry first cousins. Does'nt sound like a people that want to integrate does it.
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Post by oldie on Sept 12, 2024 18:32:06 GMT
It's not unique to Islam, is it. Too many kissing cousins over the generations has led to many handicapped Muslim babies.Poor things. Oldie can't help being nasty,but turn it around onto his precious Islam,offer a fair and factual criticism and he's exposed as a goodness knows what. Of course it's not "unique" to Muslims,but eg 55% of Muslim UK Pakistanis marry first cousins. Does'nt sound like a people that want to integrate does it. Exposed as what? Spell it out. I am an atheist, I have deep seated contempt for "blind faith". You? I suspect you actually don't know. Btw, contempt for blind faith does not preclude me from respecting the views of others, views well argued and without prejudice
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Post by baldrick on Sept 12, 2024 19:28:16 GMT
It's not unique to Islam, is it. Too many kissing cousins over the generations has led to many handicapped Muslim babies.Poor things. Oldie can't help being nasty,but turn it around onto his precious Islam,offer a fair and factual criticism and he's exposed as a goodness knows what. Of course it's not "unique" to Muslims,but eg 55% of Muslim UK Pakistanis marry first cousins. Does'nt sound like a people that want to integrate does it. Reducing, especially in recent years and among the better educated. www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67422918.amp
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 30, 2024 7:58:09 GMT
Nigel Farage beats all four Tory leadership contenders in having what it takes to be 'good PM' - new poll..by Nicholas Cecil i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/28/22/90224879-13902905-image-a-73_1727559411265.jpgNigel Farage is backed by more Britons as having what it takes to be a good Prime Minister than any of the four contenders battling it out to succeed Rishi Sunak as Tory leader. A quarter of adults in the country, 24 per cent, have this view of the Reform UK leader, according to the Ipsos survey. This figure compares to 15 per cent for former Foreign Secretary James Cleverly, 12 per cent for ex-security minister Tom Tugendhat, 11 per cent for former Business Secretary Kemi Badenoch, and ten per cent for ex-immigration minister Robert Jenrick. But while Reform backers may be keen to trumpet this finding, the survey also showed 62 per cent of Britons disagree with the statement that Mr Farage has what it takes to be a good Prime Minister. This is far higher than the 47 per cent who have this opinion for Mr Jenrick, 46 per cent for Mr Cleverly, 45 per cent Ms Badenoch, and 37 per cent for Mr Tugendhat. The results appear to be further evidence that Mr Farage is a divisive figure, with people either having strong positive, or strong negative views on him. They were published as the Tory contenders were laying out their platforms to be party leader at the Conservative annual rally in Birmingham, a far more low-key event than when the party was in government. However, Ms Badenoch sparked controversy on Sunday with comments over maternity pay. There were also some startling revelations by Lord Brady, who was chairman of the 1922 Committee of Backbench Tory MPs, over how Britain’s intelligence and security services raised the alarm over a feared foreign plot to interfere in the 2022 Conservative leadership election which saw Ms Truss become Prime Minister. The poll also showed that more people have, or are willing, to express an opinion on Mr Farage. Just three per said they did not know whether he has what it takes to be a good PM, compared to 16 per cent for Mr Tugendhat, 14 per cent for both Mr Jenrick and Ms Badenoch, and 11 per cent Mr Cleverly. The findings will almost certainly be partly due to Mr Farage being such a high profile figure. But the Reform leader has also shown leadership skills, whether people agree with his policies or not, including his party winning more than four million votes at the July general election, and during the 2016 Brexit referendum campaign. As for Boris Johnson, 21 per cent say he has what it takes to be a good Prime Minister, with 70 per cent disagreeing. His backing as PM on this question peaked during the Covid pandemic, with more than 40 per cent of the country consistently expressing a positive opinion. Keiran Pedley, Director of Politics at Ipsos, said: “These findings reflect other Ipsos research that shows none of the Conservative leadership candidates cut through in a positive way with the public but also that many have no particular opinion on them at all. “There is an upside to this as whoever wins will have a chance to make their case to the public without being written off immediately. “However, Nigel Farage looms large over the contest too. With Reform doing such damage to the Conservative Party in July – and Farage himself popular with 2019 Conservative voters – the new leader will face a challenge winning back some of the voters the party lost this summer.” *Ipsos UK interviewed 1,009 adults in Britain between September 11 and 17. Data are weighted.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 30, 2024 8:15:07 GMT
So far ,with this awful Labour regime and Tories still proving themselves rubbish, it looks nicely set up for Reform and Nigel to become PM.
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Post by oldie on Sept 30, 2024 9:14:14 GMT
So far ,with this awful Labour regime and Tories still proving themselves rubbish, it looks nicely set up for Reform and Nigel to become PM. Other myths and wishful thinking are available. Mainly perpetuated by those who have no clue of what they speak.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 30, 2024 9:55:25 GMT
So far ,with this awful Labour regime and Tories still proving themselves rubbish, it looks nicely set up for Reform and Nigel to become PM. Other myths and wishful thinking are available. Mainly perpetuated by those who have no clue of what they speak. In fairness Oldie, the right wing press and media is in full flood at the moment and hitting soft targets and having an impact on the lazy and those who don't look at the full facts. Labour have had no honeymoon period and are failing miserably on the PR front. Honesty, declaring every item, unlike the Tories who had to be forced to declare donations and gifts at times, is working against them as it sets them up. Shame the media rarely did the same in the last 14 years unless forced to do so. In every target you can point at a Tory whose done a lot worse but hey that's the past, and Labour has to be perfect. The Mail and Telegraph even have no compunction about going after Starmer's son staying at a friend's flat to study while paparazzi buzzed outside his family home, for which a value was declared for rent [no money changed hands], yet backed a man to the hilt who wouldn't even declare how many children he has, because that was off limits. But I now wait for the comments... but, but Labour said....
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Post by baselswh on Sept 30, 2024 10:08:10 GMT
So far ,with this awful Labour regime and Tories still proving themselves rubbish, it looks nicely set up for Reform and Nigel to become PM. Other myths and wishful thinking are available. Mainly perpetuated by those who have no clue of what they speak. That's probably much the same as what you said when Trump first got involved in politics. Tell me,is there anyone not antisemitic at Oxfam?
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Post by oldie on Sept 30, 2024 10:12:10 GMT
Other myths and wishful thinking are available. Mainly perpetuated by those who have no clue of what they speak. That's probably much the same as what you said when Trump first got involved in politics. Tell me,are there any non antisemites at Oxfam? You are right, Trump knows nothing of which speaks. As for Oxfam, well I would have to ask everyone...which is not tenable
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 30, 2024 10:16:32 GMT
Other myths and wishful thinking are available. Mainly perpetuated by those who have no clue of what they speak. In fairness Oldie, the right wing press and media is in full flood at the moment and hitting soft targets and having an impact on the lazy and those who don't look at the full facts. Labour have had no honeymoon period and are failing miserably on the PR front. Honesty, declaring every item, unlike the Tories who had to be forced to declare donations and gifts at times, is working against them as it sets them up. Shame the media rarely did the same in the last 14 years unless forced to do so. In every target you can point at a Tory whose done a lot worse but hey that's the past, and Labour has to be perfect. The Mail and Telegraph even have no compunction about going after Starmer's son staying at a friend's flat to study while paparazzi buzzed outside his family home, for which a value was declared for rent [no money changed hands], yet backed a man to the hilt who wouldn't even declare how many children he has, because that was off limits. But I now wait for the comments... but, but Labour said.... How many children does Starmer have? Why hasn't he been asked this question by the MSM? The media have not "gone after Starmer's son". It was Starmer himself who used his son as part of his fib. You cannot blame the media for pointing out that Starmer excuse just doesn't hold water as the dates don't match. This then leaves people to openly question just what was the reason Starmer used this apartment? Why did he lie about it? What is he hiding? This leads to more digging and more sleaze being found out. The dates tell us it was NOT for his son to study in peace so why did he say that? How much 'influence' does Lord Ali have over this government? It appears that he has thrown cash at everyone in the Cabinet. He was given a security pass to allow him into the HoC. A fib becomes a lie becomes an enquiry becomes a resignation. We have seen this time and time again in politics.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 30, 2024 11:38:24 GMT
In fairness Oldie, the right wing press and media is in full flood at the moment and hitting soft targets and having an impact on the lazy and those who don't look at the full facts. Labour have had no honeymoon period and are failing miserably on the PR front. Honesty, declaring every item, unlike the Tories who had to be forced to declare donations and gifts at times, is working against them as it sets them up. Shame the media rarely did the same in the last 14 years unless forced to do so. In every target you can point at a Tory whose done a lot worse but hey that's the past, and Labour has to be perfect. The Mail and Telegraph even have no compunction about going after Starmer's son staying at a friend's flat to study while paparazzi buzzed outside his family home, for which a value was declared for rent [no money changed hands], yet backed a man to the hilt who wouldn't even declare how many children he has, because that was off limits. But I now wait for the comments... but, but Labour said.... How many children does Starmer have? Why hasn't he been asked this question by the MSM?
The media have not "gone after Starmer's son". It was Starmer himself who used his son as part of his fib. You cannot blame the media for pointing out that Starmer excuse just doesn't hold water as the dates don't match. This then leaves people to openly question just what was the reason Starmer used this apartment? Why did he lie about it? What is he hiding? This leads to more digging and more sleaze being found out. The dates tell us it was NOT for his son to study in peace so why did he say that? How much 'influence' does Lord Ali have over this government? It appears that he has thrown cash at everyone in the Cabinet. He was given a security pass to allow him into the HoC. A fib becomes a lie becomes an enquiry becomes a resignation. We have seen this time and time again in politics. Because the MSM know, and you are scrapping the barrel with that one Nobby. He declared the use of the flat and assigned a value to it. Lord Alli has probably as much use as the cronies of the previous 14 year Government that had passes. The mates who got passes to go to parties at Number 10 in lockdown. A shame that the MSM wasn't bothered about that. People like your friend Guido, who turned a blind eye to his Tory mates but gets everyone excited when it appears that Labour, with everything declared, can be attacked more appearing to do something similar. Rank hypocrisy. And finally Boris Johnson didn't need to give passes, he promoted people to the House of Lords such as those with KGB connections, a young female who the MSM can't talk about because of a super injunction, etc. But of course we have drawn a line under all that.....
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Post by baselswh on Oct 21, 2024 16:58:32 GMT
The young woman that threw a drink over Farage at Clacton,during the run up to the election,has been found guilty of assault.
She'll be sentenced at Crown Court,in December.
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 21, 2024 17:33:05 GMT
The young woman that threw a drink over Farage at Clacton,during the run up to the election,has been found guilty of assault. She'll be sentenced at Crown Court,in December. Yet shout at a Police Dog, and you are charged, found guilty and sentenced to prison within a week!
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Post by baselswh on Oct 21, 2024 17:37:27 GMT
The young woman that threw a drink over Farage at Clacton,during the run up to the election,has been found guilty of assault. She'll be sentenced at Crown Court,in December. Yet shout at a Police Dog, and you are charged, found guilty and sentenced to prison within a week! Quite,Nobby. I think she may of changed her plea to guilty,to avoid prison I imagine.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 21, 2024 18:13:40 GMT
The young woman that threw a drink over Farage at Clacton,during the run up to the election,has been found guilty of assault. She'll be sentenced at Crown Court,in December. Yet shout at a Police Dog, and you are charged, found guilty and sentenced to prison within a week! No conspiracy or two tier Nobby, Bas is right. The reason it has taken so long is that she pleaded Not Guilty and a case had to be made. Hence the time frame. She has now changed her plea to Guilty, the case has moved forward.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 24, 2024 18:58:09 GMT
Reform will be writing to the 1352 Conservative Councillors in a week or two.This to invite them to join Reform before they select their own candidates for next years council elections.
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Post by oldie on Oct 24, 2024 19:18:49 GMT
Reform will be writing to the 1352 Conservative Councillors in a week or two.This to invite them to join Reform before they select their own candidates for next years council elections. Brilliant
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Post by francegas on Oct 25, 2024 9:49:20 GMT
Yet shout at a Police Dog, and you are charged, found guilty and sentenced to prison within a week! No conspiracy or two tier Nobby, Bas is right. The reason it has taken so long is that she pleaded Not Guilty and a case had to be made. Hence the time frame. She has now changed her plea to Guilty, the case has moved forward. She changed her plea to guilty on the morning of her trial before it began. As court time had been set aside for her case why wasn't she put before the judge immediately and sentenced there and then. Mind you can't see her doing time as the guy who threw items at Farage in Barnsley was sentenced for 6 "weeks" suspended for 12 months (What a joke)
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Post by trymer on Oct 25, 2024 13:22:38 GMT
No conspiracy or two tier Nobby, Bas is right. The reason it has taken so long is that she pleaded Not Guilty and a case had to be made. Hence the time frame. She has now changed her plea to Guilty, the case has moved forward. She changed her plea to guilty on the morning of her trial before it began. As court time had been set aside for her case why wasn't she put before the judge immediately and sentenced there and then. Mind you can't see her doing time as the guy who threw items at Farage in Barnsley was sentenced for 6 "weeks" suspended for 12 months (What a joke) She will have to be kept out of harms way if she does get a few weeks in the big house, I know someone who works at a womens prison and this gobby little trollop will be classed as a 'big name' she might come out with a face like a hot cross bun.
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Post by baldrick on Oct 25, 2024 13:31:39 GMT
She changed her plea to guilty on the morning of her trial before it began. As court time had been set aside for her case why wasn't she put before the judge immediately and sentenced there and then. Mind you can't see her doing time as the guy who threw items at Farage in Barnsley was sentenced for 6 "weeks" suspended for 12 months (What a joke) She will have to be kept out of harms way if she does get a few weeks in the big house, I know someone who works at a womens prison and this gobby little trollop will be classed as a 'big name' she might come out with a face like a hot cross bun. "gobby little trollop"? That's pleasant.
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