oldie
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Post by oldie on Sept 2, 2024 10:09:00 GMT
Well well "The overhaul is part of a “democratisation of the party” which would give Reform members the chance to throw out their leader if things went badly. At the moment it is a limited company with Mr Farage as the major shareholder but Mr Yusuf admitted that this was unsustainable with drawing up a party constitution an early priority" Some of us already pointed this out. Even more so "Nigel Farage ditches Reform UK’s ‘contract with the people’ just 2 months after election After criticism that Reform UK’s election contract with the people was ‘Liz Truss on steroids’, new Reform UK chairman has admitted that the party is working on a new set of policies as well as drawing up rules enabling the party’s leader to be sacked" What an absolute joke It's called evolving. It's called making it up and leaving their supporters with egg on their faces after they spent weeks justifying the pre election position |
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 2, 2024 10:40:07 GMT
It's called making it up and leaving their supporters with egg on their faces after they spent weeks justifying the pre election position No Oldie. The election has gone. It's time to move forward and look to the future. Do you really expect them to keep the same pledges for ever more? Of course not. Reform are evolving. They are attempting to make their own infrastructure stronger as next they will be targeting local elections. The Labour government have thrown away all their election promises already! Are you saying that the 20% who voted for Labour have 'egg on their faces'? |
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Post by oldie on Sept 2, 2024 10:50:24 GMT
It's called making it up and leaving their supporters with egg on their faces after they spent weeks justifying the pre election position No Oldie. The election has gone. It's time to move forward and look to the future. Do you really expect them to keep the same pledges for ever more? Of course not. Reform are evolving. They are attempting to make their own infrastructure stronger as next they will be targeting local elections. The Labour government have thrown away all their election promises already! Are you saying that the 20% who voted for Labour have 'egg on their faces'? God You are besotted. I pointed out the issues in how Reform were set up as a Ltd company and you defended it. Now they are admitting they have to change. I pointed out the manifesto was B/s and didn't add up, but you said it wasn't a manifesto. Farage confirmed it was a contract with his voters. Now, 2 months later, that contract is cancelled. And you voted for this |
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 2, 2024 11:00:34 GMT
No Oldie. The election has gone. It's time to move forward and look to the future. Do you really expect them to keep the same pledges for ever more? Of course not. Reform are evolving. They are attempting to make their own infrastructure stronger as next they will be targeting local elections. The Labour government have thrown away all their election promises already! Are you saying that the 20% who voted for Labour have 'egg on their faces'? God You are besotted. I pointed out the issues in how Reform were set up as a Ltd company and you defended it. Now they are admitting they have to change. I pointed out the manifesto was B/s and didn't add up, but you said it wasn't a manifesto. Farage confirmed it was a contract with his voters. Now, 2 months later, that contract is cancelled. And you voted for this You are so black & white. Yes, Reform was set-up as a Limited Company and this was because it was so small there was the danger that it could be taken over easily by "others" with just a few votes. Now the Party has grown and so they are changing their Constitution to deal with that. I see that the LibDems are still a Company?! And yes, as I have explained in a post just above this one, but I shall repost it again in the quaint hope that you can keep up. The "Contract" is now meaningless as Reform didn't win the election! The same as the Tory Manifesto is meaningless, as is the LibDem Manifesto etc etc! "No Oldie. The election has gone. It's time to move forward and look to the future. Do you really expect them to keep the same pledges for ever more? Of course not. Reform are evolving. They are attempting to make their own infrastructure stronger as next they will be targeting local elections. The Labour government have thrown away all their election promises already! Are you saying that the 20% who voted for Labour have 'egg on their faces'?" |
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Post by oldie on Sept 2, 2024 11:41:02 GMT
God You are besotted. I pointed out the issues in how Reform were set up as a Ltd company and you defended it. Now they are admitting they have to change. I pointed out the manifesto was B/s and didn't add up, but you said it wasn't a manifesto. Farage confirmed it was a contract with his voters. Now, 2 months later, that contract is cancelled. And you voted for this You are so black & white. Yes, Reform was set-up as a Limited Company and this was because it was so small there was the danger that it could be taken over easily by "others" with just a few votes. Now the Party has grown and so they are changing their Constitution to deal with that. I see that the LibDems are still a Company?! And yes, as I have explained in a post just above this one, but I shall repost it again in the quaint hope that you can keep up. The "Contract" is now meaningless as Reform didn't win the election! The same as the Tory Manifesto is meaningless, as is the LibDem Manifesto etc etc! "No Oldie. The election has gone. It's time to move forward and look to the future. Do you really expect them to keep the same pledges for ever more? Of course not. Reform are evolving. They are attempting to make their own infrastructure stronger as next they will be targeting local elections. The Labour government have thrown away all their election promises already! Are you saying that the 20% who voted for Labour have 'egg on their faces'?" Sure... This is a thread about Farage and Reform. He is every bit the chancery we accused him of being |
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Post by baldrick on Sept 2, 2024 11:49:06 GMT
No Oldie. The election has gone. It's time to move forward and look to the future. Do you really expect them to keep the same pledges for ever more? Of course not. Reform are evolving. They are attempting to make their own infrastructure stronger as next they will be targeting local elections. The Labour government have thrown away all their election promises already! Are you saying that the 20% who voted for Labour have 'egg on their faces'? God You are besotted. I pointed out the issues in how Reform were set up as a Ltd company and you defended it. Now they are admitting they have to change. I pointed out the manifesto was B/s and didn't add up, but you said it wasn't a manifesto. Farage confirmed it was a contract with his voters. Now, 2 months later, that contract is cancelled. And you voted for this Can you unilaterally cancel a contract? 😎 Maybe terminated by lack of performance. 😉 |
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Post by oldie on Sept 2, 2024 12:15:39 GMT
God You are besotted. I pointed out the issues in how Reform were set up as a Ltd company and you defended it. Now they are admitting they have to change. I pointed out the manifesto was B/s and didn't add up, but you said it wasn't a manifesto. Farage confirmed it was a contract with his voters. Now, 2 months later, that contract is cancelled. And you voted for this Can you unilaterally cancel a contract? 😎 Maybe terminated by lack of performance. 😉 He will claim there was never a contract in place. Which of course we know to be true. So all those people who voted for him voted for the square root of zero. You have to laugh |
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 2, 2024 13:14:04 GMT
Can you unilaterally cancel a contract? 😎 Maybe terminated by lack of performance. 😉 He will claim there was never a contract in place. Which of course we know to be true. So all those people who voted for him voted for the square root of zero. You have to laugh I have to laugh at your immature ramblings. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 2, 2024 13:15:47 GMT
God You are besotted. I pointed out the issues in how Reform were set up as a Ltd company and you defended it. Now they are admitting they have to change. I pointed out the manifesto was B/s and didn't add up, but you said it wasn't a manifesto. Farage confirmed it was a contract with his voters. Now, 2 months later, that contract is cancelled. And you voted for this Can you unilaterally cancel a contract? 😎 Maybe terminated by lack of performance. 😉 5 MP's, second in approx. 100 seats, over 4m votes. Labour only got 9.2m votes. From what was basically a start-up Party, that was a pretty good performance. |
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Post by baldrick on Sept 2, 2024 13:19:26 GMT
Can you unilaterally cancel a contract? 😎 Maybe terminated by lack of performance. 😉 5 MP's, second in approx. 100 seats, over 4m votes. Labour only got 9.2m votes. From what was basically a start-up Party, that was a pretty good performance. It's a term to allow a cancellation of contract under Contract Law. I was being facetious regarding their publicity stunt in the terminology. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 2, 2024 13:24:54 GMT
He will claim there was never a contract in place. Which of course we know to be true. So all those people who voted for him voted for the square root of zero. You have to laugh I have to laugh at your immature ramblings. More funny when they turn out to be true🤭 |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 2, 2024 14:08:53 GMT
Can you unilaterally cancel a contract? 😎 Maybe terminated by lack of performance. 😉 5 MP's, second in approx. 100 seats, over 4m votes. Labour only got 9.2m votes. From what was basically a start-up Party, that was a pretty good performance. Due to Labours start under the dictatorship of Starmer ( there is literally - 1000 % chance that he will be prime minister at the next general election) so we will probably see a return to a Torries government, which will be even worse then Starmer. People will vote to get the current government out of power ( whichever one it is) each time we will go to the polls, due to each being we bad as each other. Remember,that's why we have this default government now due to this. We are under a dictatorship in this country due to the two party system. Reform will grow, but they are generation's away from being a real threat to the two lessers of two evils in this country. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 2, 2024 14:18:59 GMT
5 MP's, second in approx. 100 seats, over 4m votes. Labour only got 9.2m votes. From what was basically a start-up Party, that was a pretty good performance. Due to Labours start under the dictatorship of Starmer ( there is literally - 1000 % chance that he will be prime minister at the next general election) so we will probably see a return to a Torries government, which will be even worse then Starmer. People will vote to get the current government out of power ( whichever one it is) each time we will go to the polls, due to each being we bad as each other. Remember,that's why we have this default government now due to this. We are under a dictatorship in this country due to the two party system. Reform will grow, but they are generation's away from being a real threat to the two lessers of two evils in this country. But why would anyone vote for a party with no proper constitution and no policies, other than waffling on about immigration. The National Raving Loony Party would be a better bet.... Oh, hang on, is that who Reform are 😂😂😂 |
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Post by baldrick on Sept 2, 2024 14:33:50 GMT
5 MP's, second in approx. 100 seats, over 4m votes. Labour only got 9.2m votes. From what was basically a start-up Party, that was a pretty good performance. Due to Labours start under the dictatorship of Starmer ( there is literally - 1000 % chance that he will be prime minister at the next general election) so we will probably see a return to a Torries government, which will be even worse then Starmer. People will vote to get the current government out of power ( whichever one it is) each time we will go to the polls, due to each being we bad as each other. Remember,that's why we have this default government now due to this. We are under a dictatorship in this country due to the two party system. Reform will grow, but they are generation's away from being a real threat to the two lessers of two evils in this country. "Literally 1000%", Ice? 😉 |
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Post by baldrick on Sept 2, 2024 14:46:24 GMT
Due to Labours start under the dictatorship of Starmer ( there is literally - 1000 % chance that he will be prime minister at the next general election) so we will probably see a return to a Torries government, which will be even worse then Starmer. People will vote to get the current government out of power ( whichever one it is) each time we will go to the polls, due to each being we bad as each other. Remember,that's why we have this default government now due to this. We are under a dictatorship in this country due to the two party system. Reform will grow, but they are generation's away from being a real threat to the two lessers of two evils in this country. But why would anyone vote for a party with no proper constitution and no policies, other than waffling on about immigration. The National Raving Loony Party would be a better bet.... Oh, hang on, is that who Reform are 😂😂😂 Standing at the Back Dressed Stupidly and Looking Stupid Party, compulsory asparagus for breakfast. 😀 |
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 2, 2024 15:42:39 GMT
Due to Labours start under the dictatorship of Starmer ( there is literally - 1000 % chance that he will be prime minister at the next general election) so we will probably see a return to a Torries government, which will be even worse then Starmer. People will vote to get the current government out of power ( whichever one it is) each time we will go to the polls, due to each being we bad as each other. Remember,that's why we have this default government now due to this. We are under a dictatorship in this country due to the two party system. Reform will grow, but they are generation's away from being a real threat to the two lessers of two evils in this country. But why would anyone vote for a party with no proper constitution and no policies, other than waffling on about immigration. The National Raving Loony Party would be a better bet.... Oh, hang on, is that who Reform are 😂😂😂 You are being silly once again Oldie. You must stop listening to those sixth formers down the library. Reform did have policies for the last election. It appears you did not bother to read/see them. So much for weighing up all the options and voting for the one you prefer, you didn't even look! Don't you think that's a bit narrow minded? |
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Post by oldie on Sept 2, 2024 16:28:11 GMT
But why would anyone vote for a party with no proper constitution and no policies, other than waffling on about immigration. The National Raving Loony Party would be a better bet.... Oh, hang on, is that who Reform are 😂😂😂 You are being silly once again Oldie. You must stop listening to those sixth formers down the library. Reform did have policies for the last election. It appears you did not bother to read/see them. So much for weighing up all the options and voting for the one you prefer, you didn't even look! Don't you think that's a bit narrow minded? Ah, So they have ditched those policies they said were actually a contract with the people? Those policies (they were nothing of the sort of course) that were little more than a sentence long and added up financially to bankruptcy? Truss on steroids? Those? Now they are ditching them and you have called it evolution. Better not ask Richard Dawkins to analyse them, his famous book, "The Selfish Gene" would have to have it's title revised... "The Stupid Gene"... I wonder if science can isolate this gene and rid us of it? |
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 2, 2024 16:40:13 GMT
You are being silly once again Oldie. You must stop listening to those sixth formers down the library. Reform did have policies for the last election. It appears you did not bother to read/see them. So much for weighing up all the options and voting for the one you prefer, you didn't even look! Don't you think that's a bit narrow minded? Ah, So they have ditched those policies they said were actually a contract with the people? Those policies (they were nothing of the sort of course) that were little more than a sentence long and added up financially to bankruptcy? Truss on steroids? Those? Now they are ditching them and you have called it evolution. Better not ask Richard Dawkins to analyse them, his famous book, "The Selfish Gene" would have to have it's title revised... "The Stupid Gene"... I wonder if science can isolate this gene and rid us of it? You are so immature. |
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 11, 2024 11:06:06 GMT
Tory staffer at the centre of Westminster #MeToo scandal defects to join Nigel Farage..by Glen Owen & Dan Hodges
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Caroline Edmondson will join Nigel Farage after defecting A Tory secretary who was at the centre of one of the most infamous '#metoo' scandals at Westminster has defected to work for Nigel Farage. Caroline Edmondson revealed in The Mail on Sunday in 2017 that Mark Garnier had called her sugar t**s in front of witnesses and given her cash to buy two vibrators at a sex shop in Soho in 2010, standing outside while she bought them. Mr Garnier, who was a Brexit Minister for Theresa May at the time, was investigated by then-senior civil servant Sue Gray, who is now Sir Keir Starmer's Chief of Staff. Ms Edmondson, 61, who has worked for Tory MPs including Michael Ancram, Steve Norris and John Whittingdale over a 40-year career, will manage the Reform leader's Commons office. Her brother, Christopher Edmondson, was the Reform UK candidate in West Worcestershire, coming fourth in July's General Election. Last night she said: 'I'm very happy in my new role. There are exciting times ahead. This is the party of the future. Watch this space!' i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/07/19/89397121-13824825-image-m-3_1725734273554.jpgCaroline Edmondson revealed in The Mail on Sunday in 2017 that Mark Garnier (above) had called her sugar t**s in front of witnessesThe 'sugar t**s' row came as Westminster was being swept by allegations of inappropriate behaviour by MPs. Ms Edmondson said wealthy ex-banker Mr Garnier told her one of the sex toys was for his wife, also called Caroline, while the other was for a female assistant in his Wyre Forest constituency office in the West Midlands. When approached by the MoS, Mr Garnier said: 'I'm not going to deny it, because I'm not going to be dishonest. I'm going to have to take it on the chin.' He has said his sugar t**s comment was part of a conversation about sitcom Gavin & Stacey, in which the phrase is used as a term of endearment. He denied that asking Ms Edmondson to buy sex toys in Soho constituted sexual harassment, saying it was 'good-humoured high jinks'. He said he told Ms Edmondson he didn't think it was a good idea, but she went ahead. He claimed they later fell out and disgruntled Ms Edmondson had been using the incident against him 'ever since'. Ms Edmondson denied his claims. She said: 'Another time in the bar he said to me in the hearing of others: "You are going nowhere, sugar t**s." 'He was worried I was going to go off and work for another MP. It was awful.' Ms Gray found Mr Garnier had not breached the ministerial code, as the incident took place before he was appointed.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 11, 2024 11:17:31 GMT
Inside Nigel Farage's £3m 4 home luxury property empire - all bought since Brexit..By Nick Sommerlad, Investigations Editor
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The self-styled man of the people has amassed a property portfolio worth almost £3m since the 2016 Brexit referendum.
Our disclosures come after it was revealed that the Reform leader is earning around £700,000 a year outside Parliament
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Pad at GreatstoneThe politician even promotes his own brand of red, white and blue artisan gin through his French partner Laure Ferrari’s business. He is also a founder of the “Freedom & Fortune” financial newsletter, which he says will “help you take back control of your money” and “potentially profit from a Britain primed to boom post Brexit”. Mr Farage pledged to use his “40 years of experience in finance AND politics” along with his “deep-rooted contacts that provide me with intelligence and a unique perspective”. Under House of Commons rules, he must declare any shares he owns which give him a stake of 15% or more in a company or are worth over £70,000. His ownership of Thorn In The Side meets both criteria. But he only mentions that the company gets his TV earnings. The company owns two properties near Dungeness, Kent, which overlook a beach from which Farage has filmed clips about migrants arriving in small boats. Thorn In The Side bought a three-bed house in Lydd-on-Sea in 2020 for half a million pounds in 2020. It is mortgage free and understood to be rented out. i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article33575147.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/0_Nigel-Farage.jpgThe Reform leader is earning around £700,000 a year outside Parliament Last year it bought a three-bed property in nearby Greatstone for £575,000. Described by neighbours as derelict, it too is mortgage free. Mr Farage has applied to the local council to knock it down and replace it with a new three-storey property. One neighbour joked: “It’s ironic with there being migrant landings nearby. I’m sure Nigel Farage would not be impressed.” The ex-commodities trader has reported big monthly earnings for July, including £97,928 from GB News, but which he said included backdated payments from April paid to Thorn In The Side. He earned £16,597 filming video clips for the Cameo app, £4,000 writing articles for the Telegraph and around £2,400 from his social media accounts with X and Meta. i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article33575164.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/1_Screenshot-2024-08-31-at-172841.jpgHouse at Lydd-on-SeaAs we revealed last week, he earned a large five figure sum, including a £11,784 deposit, jetting to the US to speak at the Keep Arizona Free summit. This is all on top of his £91,000 a year MP’s salary. Mr Farage insisted he had “declared all my income from July 4. That is what I was asked to do. My lawyer did the submissions”. He told us: “I can’t work as I do without a big team of people. I employ between five and seven staff. Well I say staff, they are not staff, they are contractors, people who help me do various things. I run a company, I employ staff, I have offices, I have expenses, I have investments. “That’s what I have built up over the course of the last eight years.” He suggested that his register of interests did not reflect his true profits: “It’s just a nonsense. I’m being asked to publish gross income, including VAT, without offsetting pretty substantial costs.
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