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Post by oldie on May 9, 2023 6:05:51 GMT
Well well The Met have now apologised. BBC News - Coronation: Met Police express 'regret' over arresting six anti-monarchy protesters www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65527007Must be embarrassing for those of you who were lauding their actions. đâ¤ľď¸ Only over six people. đđđđđ |
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Post by francegas on May 9, 2023 6:34:17 GMT
Well well The Met have now apologised. BBC News - Coronation: Met Police express 'regret' over arresting six anti-monarchy protesters www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65527007Must be embarrassing for those of you who were lauding their actions. đâ¤ľď¸ Certainly not embarrassed. It was good to see the the Police doing what they are paid to do, at long last, rather than dancing the Macarena or taking little/no action like they do with the Just stop oil mob. |
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Post by baselswh on May 9, 2023 6:39:21 GMT
The actress Adjoa Andoh ( of 'Bridgerton' ,Netflix apparently ) ,whilst talking on ITV told us how "terribly white" the Buck Palace balcony was.
Crass,unnecessary and considering the Royal Family happen to of been white for centuries, racist.
Imagine a white person pointing out the 'high ups' in Ghana are 'terribly black'!
There would be a cascade of criticism from types like one or two on this forum .
Naturally none of the other ITV people commentating asked her what she meant by "terribly white".
Next morning,on Rad 4,she claimed she meant 'the balcony was "terribly white" compared to the day in general.She said she may of upset some people.The Rad 4 presenter quickly told her she had'nt upset anybody.
That's apparently bollocks judging by the amount of complaints made.
Why mention ot at all.
She just could'nt help herself.
Diane Abbott-esque.
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Post by baselswh on May 9, 2023 6:40:21 GMT
The Police did a good job.
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Post by oldie on May 9, 2023 6:40:51 GMT
"The Met also confirmed it had used a controversial new law to detain the group." That would be the new Tory law introduced to suppress freedom of assembly.
My local milkie has been arrested for whistling whilst delivering the milk.
Local police said he was being a "nuisance" and they suspected the whistling was a cover for other nefarious activities.
When searching his milk van they discovered a pen and notebook with names and addresses. CID are checking who these people are and could they be part of a wider "gang". All the addresses were in the same street and had notes such as "3 Pints"
The investigation continues
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Post by oldie on May 9, 2023 6:42:15 GMT
Well well The Met have now apologised. BBC News - Coronation: Met Police express 'regret' over arresting six anti-monarchy protesters www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65527007Must be embarrassing for those of you who were lauding their actions. đâ¤ľď¸ Certainly not embarrassed. It was good to see the the Police doing what they are paid to do, at long last, rather than dancing the Macarena or taking little/no action like they do with the Just stop oil mob. Yeah, lets pay the police to go around arresting innocent people...have you people no shame?? |
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Post by oldie on May 9, 2023 6:46:56 GMT
The Police did a good job.  They did a very good job of exposing this "law" for the crass stupidity that it is. But, wave the flag and some people will support anything. |
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Post by baselswh on May 9, 2023 7:02:59 GMT
The Police did a good job. They did a very good job of exposing this "law" for the crass stupidity that it is. But, wave the flag and some people will support anything. Millions of Britons wanted to enjoy the Coronation.The Police did a good job. |
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Post by lostinspace on May 9, 2023 7:07:43 GMT
"The Met also confirmed it had used a controversial new law to detain the group." That would be the new Tory law introduced to suppress freedom of assembly. My local milkie has been arrested for whistling whilst delivering the milk. Local police said he was being a "nuisance" and they suspected the whistling was a cover for other nefarious activities. When searching his milk van they discovered a pen and notebook with names and addresses. CID are checking who these people are and could they be part of a wider "gang". All the addresses were in the same street and had notes such as "3 Pints" The investigation continues nothing new on that..... think you will find that in years gone by several milk delivery personell have been cautioned over their early morning whistling |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 9, 2023 7:34:25 GMT
"The Met also confirmed it had used a controversial new law to detain the group." That would be the new Tory law introduced to suppress freedom of assembly. My local milkie has been arrested for whistling whilst delivering the milk. Local police said he was being a "nuisance" and they suspected the whistling was a cover for other nefarious activities. When searching his milk van they discovered a pen and notebook with names and addresses. CID are checking who these people are and could they be part of a wider "gang". All the addresses were in the same street and had notes such as "3 Pints" The investigation continues nothing new on that..... think you will find that in years gone by several milk delivery personell have been cautioned over their early morning whistling True dit: Whistling onboard a Royal Navy ship was forbidden. I don't know if it still is. |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 9, 2023 7:44:18 GMT
The Police did a good job. They did a very good job of exposing this "law" for the crass stupidity that it is. But, wave the flag and some people will support anything. Oldie, grow up. If the Police had date or intelligence that showed someone was planning to break the law, then the vast majority of people in the country will support the Police taking action beforehand. To argue otherwise is just crass. What were the protesters planning? Who knows, but if it happened in front of the many horses on show then it could have led to injury or even death from the horses going out of control. Parliamentary Democracy passed the law. That very same Parliamentary Democracy you have lauded and indeed praised in the past. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on May 9, 2023 7:57:34 GMT
They did a very good job of exposing this "law" for the crass stupidity that it is. But, wave the flag and some people will support anything. Oldie, grow up. If the Police had date or intelligence that showed someone was planning to break the law, then the vast majority of people in the country will support the Police taking action beforehand. To argue otherwise is just crass. What were the protesters planning? Who knows, but if it happened in front of the many horses on show then it could have led to injury or even death from the horses going out of control. Parliamentary Democracy passed the law. That very same Parliamentary Democracy you have lauded and indeed praised in the past. The 6 released without charge and have received a face to face and written apology were arrested for the offence of going prepared to 'lock on' - to attach themselves to others or to buildings, vehicles etc. The dreaded instruments - suitcase straps. You know those bands with plastic clips. Everyone should be careful from today forward - you may be arrested at an airport on your annual trip to Benidorm. I'm now concerned about next weekends rugby trip to Nottingham, better check my kit bag in case laces are a bit over the top! The head of Manchester Police has spoken before a Parliamentary Committee and stated that the legislation is ill thought through and repeated that this morning on Radio 4. It is wide open to misinterpretation. But then don't trust me, read what the UN has to say - news.un.org/en/story/2023/04/1136107UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Volker TĂźrk, called the Public Order Bill âdeeply troubling legislationâ, after it completed its passage through parliament on Wednesday. âIt is especially worrying that the law expands the powers of the police to stop and search individuals, including without suspicion; defines some of the new criminal offences in a vague and overly broad manner; and imposes unnecessary and disproportionate criminal sanctions on people organizing or taking part in peaceful protests,â Mr. TĂźrk said. He appealed to the UK Government to reverse the legislation, which has yet to receive Royal Assent, âas soon as feasibleâ. [It has now received Assent after having been rushed through]
The Government insists that the fundamental right to protest is still protected under the legislation, but it brings in new penalties for so-called âguerrilla tacticsâ. The bill was introduced to crack down on disruptive protests by activists such as the Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion groups, which have used tactics such as blocking roadways and chaining themselves to railings, including those around the UK Parliament in central London. Environmental protesters targeted The UN rights chief stressed that the lawâs apparent targeting of âthose protesting about human rights and environmental issuesâ was particularly concerning. âAs the world faces the triple planetary crises of climate change, loss of biodiversity and pollution, governments should be protecting and facilitating peaceful protests on such existential topics, not hindering and blocking them,â Mr. TĂźrk said. âUnnecessaryâ expansion of police powers Mr. TĂźrk insisted that the law was âwholly unnecessaryâ, given the UK policeâs existing powers to act against violent demonstrations. He also criticized the criminalization of protests linked to the new legislation. The Public Order Act introduces âSerious Disruption Prevention Ordersâ which, according to the UN rights chiefâs office, have the potential to significantly limit the freedoms of protesters, by allowing courts to ban individuals from being in certain places at certain times, being with particular people, or even to limit the way they use the internet. On the basis of the new law, individuals could be electronically monitored to ensure compliance, even if they have never been convicted of any criminal offence.
âPre-emptiveâ rights limitations Mr. TĂźrk said that governments needed to facilitate peaceful protests while âprotecting the public from serious and sustained disruptionâ, but that the Public Order Act could âpre-emptively limit someoneâs future legitimate exercise of their rightsâ. The UN rights chief also warned that the new law âregrettably weakens human rights obligationsâ which the UK has âlong championedâ in the international arena. |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 9, 2023 8:23:42 GMT
C'mon Terry, the UN? Are you serious?
What are the UN doing about the huge issue regarding Human Rights, namely the Russian invasion of Ukraine? This is far more important than arresting a Stop the Oil protester in London.
The UN has no relevance. It's a toothless tiger, a talking shop for non-entities.
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Post by oldie on May 9, 2023 8:56:11 GMT
"The Met also confirmed it had used a controversial new law to detain the group." That would be the new Tory law introduced to suppress freedom of assembly. My local milkie has been arrested for whistling whilst delivering the milk. Local police said he was being a "nuisance" and they suspected the whistling was a cover for other nefarious activities. When searching his milk van they discovered a pen and notebook with names and addresses. CID are checking who these people are and could they be part of a wider "gang". All the addresses were in the same street and had notes such as "3 Pints" The investigation continues nothing new on that..... think you will find that in years gone by several milk delivery personell have been cautioned over their early morning whistling Ummm....I was taking the p*ss |
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Post by francegas on May 9, 2023 8:56:13 GMT
The Police did a good job. They did a very good job of exposing this "law" for the crass stupidity that it is. But, wave the flag and some people will support anything. I'm confused now Oldie... is your gripe with the Police for doing their job and upholding the law, with this "Law" or both? Has "Sir" Kier come out and said he will revoke this law should he get into power? I take it you fully support the Just Stop Oil activists and their actions. |
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Post by oldie on May 9, 2023 8:58:25 GMT
C'mon Terry, the UN? Are you serious? What are the UN doing about the huge issue regarding Human Rights, namely the Russian invasion of Ukraine? This is far more important than arresting a Stop the Oil protester in London. The UN has no relevance. It's a toothless tiger, a talking shop for non-entities. Yes, let's ignore considered opinion. Chief Constable (edit Head of) of Manchester...pah...what does he know |
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Post by oldie on May 9, 2023 9:08:41 GMT
They did a very good job of exposing this "law" for the crass stupidity that it is. But, wave the flag and some people will support anything. I'm confused now Oldie... is your gripe with the Police for doing their job and upholding the law, with this "Law" or both? Has "Sir" Kier come out and said he will revoke this law should he get into power? I take it you fully support the Just Stop Oil activists and their actions. To answer your only sensible question is my issue is with the law(s) as passed onto the Statute Book over the last 18 months (approx). These laws gave the police Carte Blanche to arrest people if they were causing a "nuisance, updated to now include arrest for carrying super glue. Let me make this clear...I support the police, they have a difficult and often dangerous job to perform. Do they make mistakes, heah absolutely, but he without sin cast the first stone on that one. But their job is to enforce the laws as laid out in the Statute Book, laws democratically authorised by our Sovereign Parliament. Right or wrong, they have no choice. The problem is very stupid, sometimes lying, politicians who win elections on a false pretext and then with that majority in Parliament pass these manifestly stupid, undemocratic laws that our under resourced police are then tasked to enforce. Worse, they are now asked to interpret. Ring any bells for you France? |
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Post by oldie on May 9, 2023 9:13:03 GMT
Oldie, grow up. If the Police had date or intelligence that showed someone was planning to break the law, then the vast majority of people in the country will support the Police taking action beforehand. To argue otherwise is just crass. What were the protesters planning? Who knows, but if it happened in front of the many horses on show then it could have led to injury or even death from the horses going out of control. Parliamentary Democracy passed the law. That very same Parliamentary Democracy you have lauded and indeed praised in the past. The 6 released without charge and have received a face to face and written apology were arrested for the offence of going prepared to 'lock on' - to attach themselves to others or to buildings, vehicles etc. The dreaded instruments - suitcase straps. You know those bands with plastic clips. Everyone should be careful from today forward - you may be arrested at an airport on your annual trip to Benidorm. I'm now concerned about next weekends rugby trip to Nottingham, better check my kit bag in case laces are a bit over the top! The head of Manchester Police has spoken before a Parliamentary Committee and stated that the legislation is ill thought through and repeated that this morning on Radio 4. It is wide open to misinterpretation. But then don't trust me, read what the UN has to say - news.un.org/en/story/2023/04/1136107UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Volker TĂźrk, called the Public Order Bill âdeeply troubling legislationâ, after it completed its passage through parliament on Wednesday. âIt is especially worrying that the law expands the powers of the police to stop and search individuals, including without suspicion; defines some of the new criminal offences in a vague and overly broad manner; and imposes unnecessary and disproportionate criminal sanctions on people organizing or taking part in peaceful protests,â Mr. TĂźrk said. He appealed to the UK Government to reverse the legislation, which has yet to receive Royal Assent, âas soon as feasibleâ. [It has now received Assent after having been rushed through]
The Government insists that the fundamental right to protest is still protected under the legislation, but it brings in new penalties for so-called âguerrilla tacticsâ. The bill was introduced to crack down on disruptive protests by activists such as the Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion groups, which have used tactics such as blocking roadways and chaining themselves to railings, including those around the UK Parliament in central London. Environmental protesters targeted The UN rights chief stressed that the lawâs apparent targeting of âthose protesting about human rights and environmental issuesâ was particularly concerning. âAs the world faces the triple planetary crises of climate change, loss of biodiversity and pollution, governments should be protecting and facilitating peaceful protests on such existential topics, not hindering and blocking them,â Mr. TĂźrk said. âUnnecessaryâ expansion of police powers Mr. TĂźrk insisted that the law was âwholly unnecessaryâ, given the UK policeâs existing powers to act against violent demonstrations. He also criticized the criminalization of protests linked to the new legislation. The Public Order Act introduces âSerious Disruption Prevention Ordersâ which, according to the UN rights chiefâs office, have the potential to significantly limit the freedoms of protesters, by allowing courts to ban individuals from being in certain places at certain times, being with particular people, or even to limit the way they use the internet. On the basis of the new law, individuals could be electronically monitored to ensure compliance, even if they have never been convicted of any criminal offence.
âPre-emptiveâ rights limitations Mr. TĂźrk said that governments needed to facilitate peaceful protests while âprotecting the public from serious and sustained disruptionâ, but that the Public Order Act could âpre-emptively limit someoneâs future legitimate exercise of their rightsâ. The UN rights chief also warned that the new law âregrettably weakens human rights obligationsâ which the UK has âlong championedâ in the international arena. None so blind as those that will not see Cheshire. Sad isn't it. |
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Post by trymer on May 9, 2023 11:02:19 GMT
The protesters got slightly inconvenienced,well they inconvenience other people so now they know how it feels but it gives the whiners something else to whine about.
The Police had a huge job to do and they got it mostly right,out of hundreds of thousands only 6 had their day spoilt.
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Post by oldie on May 9, 2023 11:35:23 GMT
Whoooosh
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