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Post by rideintothesun on Jan 8, 2024 23:04:17 GMT
Realistic program on Channel 4 right now, some shocking oversized people on there!!.. bloke on there drinks 38 pints of fizzy pop,....a week!!! Not helpful at all for tv programs like this to focus on the extremes, although this is entirely expected. Obesity is a societal issue, and is heavily linked to general arrangements such as the work cycle, disadvantage/exclusion and privilege.
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Post by trymer on Jan 9, 2024 11:35:58 GMT
Realistic program on Channel 4 right now, some shocking oversized people on there!!.. bloke on there drinks 38 pints of fizzy pop,....a week!!! Imagine the sugar in 38 pints of fizzy drink....hope the bloke wasnt complaining about being fat.
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Post by trymer on Jan 9, 2024 11:53:29 GMT
Apparently obesity has increased from the 60s, the reason is more sugar in the diet,its in everything. I was looking at some girls at the gym today,one was a little darling her 3 friends were attractive but 40 years ago they would have been two dress sizes smaller,and these girls werent fat by todays standards. Sport (at school level) and fitness are 2 different things, far too much time spent on sport and virtually none on fitness. Exercise and equipment have changed so much in the last 40 years (like everything else) there is equipment in the gym that was unknown in the early 80s and even the exercises done are different now,for instance its rare to see people doing reverse curls with a bar now. I will be honest i had never heard of 'the core' 15 years ago,now core exercise is very important,Pilates and calisthenics could be done in a school gym but it would need properly trained instructors not like the games teachers of years ago. Instruction is the key,every time I go into a gym I see someone doing something wrong, a proper fitness regime could be worked out for children at school and records kept. My grandaughters pre school was good,a lot of PT and she was 2.5 when she started there,she loves swimming and taking ice skating lessons at 4.5,her mother is strict with her sugar intake,start the young and they will keep things up as a matter of course. Obesity is very clearly linked to the work cycle, and to a work regime that privileges the use of cars and which is increasingly sedentary. The gym has always struck me as counter-productive, as it is a very 'industrial' approach to exercise and strikes me as utterly joyless and a chore. Cycling, jogging outside and walking are much more stimulating and enjoyable. My advice to people would to be eat a small meal at the start of the day and then take on liquids when feeling peckish. Gradually cut down the amount that you eat at the start of the day towards the end of the week, and then revert back to the normal intake at the beginning of the next. Do this for two-three weeks and see how you get on. In fact obesity is clearly linked to how many calories you eat/drink and how many calories you burn off. Gyms are counter productive ? how ? does going to the gym make you fatter ? less fit ?. Gyms are joyless ? thats nonsense,look up endorphins, you get a a similar buzz after good work out too good sex thats a reason why some people get addicted to exercise. You dont say if you have been a regular gym user ? but from your negativity about gyms I would say that you have never been to a gym,or if you have it was the wrong gym for you or that you were doing the wrong exercise regime. Going to the gym is stimulating,gets you motivated and very enjoyable,gym membership has massively increased over last 20 years,it is also a very cheap. I used to run every morning but I rarely run now,over a long period of time constant running exacerbates joint and spinal problems, I enjoy walking but it isnt great for burning calories off,swimming is better. I dont like to give advice on food but most people into fitness see breakfast as being important,I have porridge and a pint of water...need a cup of coffee to wake me up though, not going to be for everyone, I also dont eat carbs after 18.00,its whatever works for you.
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Post by trymer on Jan 9, 2024 11:59:13 GMT
Realistic program on Channel 4 right now, some shocking oversized people on there!!.. bloke on there drinks 38 pints of fizzy pop,....a week!!! Not helpful at all for tv programs like this to focus on the extremes, although this is entirely expected. Obesity is a societal issue, and is heavily linked to general arrangements such as the work cycle, disadvantage/exclusion and privilege. I liked 'heavily linked' very good. I do see more Greggs/takeaway food shops/bargain booze type shops in poorer areas, I have never seen a Deliveroo rider in Sneyd Park so maybe there is societal issue. At the end of the day its up to each individual to keep themselves healthy,we all know whats bad for us,same as taking drugs,smoking etc,no excuses, its similar in a way to personal hygiene its the individuals responsibility.
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Post by bluetornados on Jan 9, 2024 14:39:53 GMT
“Eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner/tea like a pauper” is a popular adage that suggests that one should eat a hearty breakfast, a moderate lunch, and a light evening meal.
Scientists at King’s College London have claimed when you eat could be just as important as what you eat, asserting that irregular eating and meal-skipping could be linked to a higher risk of metabolic syndrome, which includes high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes and obesity.
The researchers made their claims in two review papers, published in the Proceedings of the Nutrition Society , which also calls for more large-scale studies in the future to establish the impact of chrono-nutrition on public health.
Chrono-nutrition is the principle of eating foods at times of the day when they are most useful, to meet your body's energy requirements and prevent storage of food as fat in certain parts of the body.
The scientists argue that the rise in shift workers and "social jetlag", where many of us live by social clocks rather than our internal body clocks, is leading to a change in food consumption patterns.
The scientists argue that over the past decades, more meals are being skipped, consumed outside the family home, on-the-go, later in the day and more irregularly.
The research claims that this is linked to how regularly people eat and what they choose to eat, for example with poorer food choices at lunch and dinner linked to breakfast skipping.
However, according to Dr Gerda Pot, visiting lecturer in the Diabetes and Nutritional Sciences Division at King's College London, while we have a much better understanding today of what we should be eating, we are still left with the question as to which meal should provide us with the most energy - hence why further research is required.
“Although the evidence suggests that eating more calories later in the evening is associated with obesity, we are still far from understanding whether our energy intake should be distributed equally across the day or whether breakfast should contribute the greatest proportion of energy, followed by lunch and dinner,” she said.
The scientists also suggested we need further study into "with whom we eat", pointing to evidence that regular family meals contribute to healthy eating habits in children and adolescents.
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Post by trymer on Jan 10, 2024 19:43:58 GMT
“Eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner/tea like a pauper” is a popular adage that suggests that one should eat a hearty breakfast, a moderate lunch, and a light evening meal.Scientists at King’s College London have claimed when you eat could be just as important as what you eat, asserting that irregular eating and meal-skipping could be linked to a higher risk of metabolic syndrome, which includes high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes and obesity. The researchers made their claims in two review papers, published in the Proceedings of the Nutrition Society , which also calls for more large-scale studies in the future to establish the impact of chrono-nutrition on public health. Chrono-nutrition is the principle of eating foods at times of the day when they are most useful, to meet your body's energy requirements and prevent storage of food as fat in certain parts of the body. The scientists argue that the rise in shift workers and "social jetlag", where many of us live by social clocks rather than our internal body clocks, is leading to a change in food consumption patterns. The scientists argue that over the past decades, more meals are being skipped, consumed outside the family home, on-the-go, later in the day and more irregularly. The research claims that this is linked to how regularly people eat and what they choose to eat, for example with poorer food choices at lunch and dinner linked to breakfast skipping. However, according to Dr Gerda Pot, visiting lecturer in the Diabetes and Nutritional Sciences Division at King's College London, while we have a much better understanding today of what we should be eating, we are still left with the question as to which meal should provide us with the most energy - hence why further research is required. “Although the evidence suggests that eating more calories later in the evening is associated with obesity, we are still far from understanding whether our energy intake should be distributed equally across the day or whether breakfast should contribute the greatest proportion of energy, followed by lunch and dinner,” she said. The scientists also suggested we need further study into "with whom we eat", pointing to evidence that regular family meals contribute to healthy eating habits in children and adolescents. Seems sensible for breakfast to be a bigger meal (if you can face food first thing in the morning) gives you the nutrition you need to get you through the day plus you have all day to burn off the calories.....I couldnt live somewhere like Spain where they seem to eat in the evening.
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 10, 2024 21:41:42 GMT
If I don't have breakfast before going to work, usually a slice of toast and cereals,with coffee then it would be a waste of time me even going out the door.
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Post by oldie on Jan 10, 2024 23:16:32 GMT
If I don't have breakfast before going to work, usually a slice of toast and cereals,with coffee then it would be a waste of time me even going out the door. I heard that's true whatever you eat😂😂😂
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Post by trymer on Jan 11, 2024 9:43:40 GMT
If I don't have breakfast before going to work, usually a slice of toast and cereals,with coffee then it would be a waste of time me even going out the door. Yes,skipping breakfast isnt a great idea, remember the old 'go to work on an egg' advertising campaign years ago ?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 11, 2024 11:12:17 GMT
If I don't have breakfast before going to work, usually a slice of toast and cereals,with coffee then it would be a waste of time me even going out the door. Yes,skipping breakfast isnt a great idea, remember the old 'go to work on an egg' advertising campaign years ago ? Ah, the late great Murrey Walker (F1 man). He was working in advertising at the time and he was the one who came up with this slogan.
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Post by trymer on Jan 11, 2024 13:56:33 GMT
Yes,skipping breakfast isnt a great idea, remember the old 'go to work on an egg' advertising campaign years ago ? Ah, the late great Murrey Walker (F1 man). He was working in advertising at the time and he was the one who came up with this slogan. Another ad was for (I think) Special K 'can you pinch more than an inch ?' its more like grab the flab now. There used to be a model in a Special K ad who wore a belt marked like a tape measure...that wouldnt be a great idea now either, the female figure has totally changed in 40 years the hourglass figure with a tiny waist wasnt unusual then it seems very rare now.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 11, 2024 14:41:09 GMT
Ah, the late great Murrey Walker (F1 man). He was working in advertising at the time and he was the one who came up with this slogan. Another ad was for (I think) Special K 'can you pinch more than an inch ?' its more like grab the flab now. There used to be a model in a Special K ad who wore a belt marked like a tape measure...that wouldnt be a great idea now either, the female figure has totally changed in 40 years the hourglass figure with a tiny waist wasnt unusual then it seems very rare now. Well, in my day we had Wonder Woman. Young blokes nowadays wonder if it is a woman !
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Post by trymer on Jan 12, 2024 18:06:45 GMT
Another ad was for (I think) Special K 'can you pinch more than an inch ?' its more like grab the flab now. There used to be a model in a Special K ad who wore a belt marked like a tape measure...that wouldnt be a great idea now either, the female figure has totally changed in 40 years the hourglass figure with a tiny waist wasnt unusual then it seems very rare now. Well, in my day we had Wonder Woman. Young blokes nowadays wonder if it is a woman ! Very true,I dont envy young blokes these days, why do girls get their lips blown up so big now ? saw one earlier and her mouth looked like a sink plunger...not attractive at all.
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Post by ltdgas on Jan 14, 2024 16:22:03 GMT
Very surprised in hospital this week they were serving chocolate pudding , toast & jam , tea with biscuits ,chap in next bay had chocolate pudding x2 , toast & jam , biscuits , very surprised when he said I’m diabetic like you I had water / yougurt / brown bread toast , nurse said you look like you could do with a good meal inside you
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Post by trymer on Sept 2, 2024 8:22:54 GMT
As this turned into a health thread i thought that i would add smoking and the goverments plan to stop smoking outside pubs etc,if Starmer is concerned because smoking is such an unhealthy habit (which i would agree with) why not ban the sale of tobacco instead of tinkering around with where it can be smoked?
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Post by baselswh on Sept 2, 2024 8:48:50 GMT
As this turned into a health thread i thought that i would add smoking and the goverments plan to stop smoking outside pubs etc,if Starmer is concerned because smoking is such an unhealthy habit (which i would agree with) why not ban the sale of tobacco instead of tinkering around with where it can be smoked? Would'nt lose much £ in tax if the sale of tobacco was stopped Trymer.It would all go to the black market. I think smokers ought to be allowed to smoke outside,away from nonsmokers.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 2, 2024 8:51:41 GMT
As this turned into a health thread i thought that i would add smoking and the goverments plan to stop smoking outside pubs etc,if Starmer is concerned because smoking is such an unhealthy habit (which i would agree with) why not ban the sale of tobacco instead of tinkering around with where it can be smoked? Isn't the plan to bring in Rishi Sunak's proposal to age limit tobacco sales?
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Post by Icegas on Sept 2, 2024 10:00:46 GMT
As this turned into a health thread i thought that i would add smoking and the goverments plan to stop smoking outside pubs etc,if Starmer is concerned because smoking is such an unhealthy habit (which i would agree with) why not ban the sale of tobacco instead of tinkering around with where it can be smoked? As a none smoker myself ( It's a disgusting habit) I've got no problem with people smoking,and I can easily be around them as they do. My ex was a smoker, but I think it was correct with banning smoking from pubs and inside public places. But this is a step to far.Like you said, why not ban it altogether if they are doing this? And I'm not in favor of banning smoking or tobacco completely, as I think everyone has the right to smoke if they want to. Are they going to stop vapes, as the research says that they could be more dangerous! But why aren't they going after the processed crap food people eat? Or Energy drinks? I will actually defend the smoking community here.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 2, 2024 10:21:09 GMT
As this turned into a health thread i thought that i would add smoking and the goverments plan to stop smoking outside pubs etc,if Starmer is concerned because smoking is such an unhealthy habit (which i would agree with) why not ban the sale of tobacco instead of tinkering around with where it can be smoked? As a none smoker myself ( It's a disgusting habit) I've got no problem with people smoking,and I can easily be around them as they do. My ex was a smoker, but I think it was correct with banning smoking from pubs and inside public places. But this is a step to far.Like you said, why not ban it altogether if they are doing this? And I'm not in favor of banning smoking or tobacco completely, as I think everyone has the right to smoke if they want to. Are they going to stop vapes, as the research says that they could be more dangerous! But why aren't they going after the processed crap food people eat? Or Energy drinks? I will actually defend the smoking community here. I suspect they'll do what happens already in the children's play areas I've witnessed, just stand the other side of the fence, not really further away. I'm a non smoker too, I've lost close family to smoking related illnesses and nearly lost a few others. Anything that moves smoke and vapes further away from my family, the better. There is no need to ban, but I'd support further distancing.
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Post by oldie on Sept 2, 2024 10:40:28 GMT
As a none smoker myself ( It's a disgusting habit) I've got no problem with people smoking,and I can easily be around them as they do. My ex was a smoker, but I think it was correct with banning smoking from pubs and inside public places. But this is a step to far.Like you said, why not ban it altogether if they are doing this? And I'm not in favor of banning smoking or tobacco completely, as I think everyone has the right to smoke if they want to. Are they going to stop vapes, as the research says that they could be more dangerous! But why aren't they going after the processed crap food people eat? Or Energy drinks? I will actually defend the smoking community here. I suspect they'll do what happens already in the children's play areas I've witnessed, just stand the other side of the fence, not really further away. I'm a non smoker too, I've lost close family to smoking related illnesses and nearly lost a few others. Anything that moves smoke and vapes further away from my family, the better. There is no need to ban, but I'd support further distancing. Banning tobacco would be counter productive. Pricing, education and no advertising is the way. Including vapes
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