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Post by oldie on May 2, 2023 8:56:55 GMT
The NHS has in recent times had to purchase bariatric ambulances which are designed to take people over 50 stone in weight. People over 30 stone are becoming more regular. On occasions my wife and her colleagues who work frontline ambulance have had to call out the Fire Service to remove windows and hoist people out. That's not good for anyone. I am overweight, 19st, but 6'3" so entitled to a bit. But I drink too much, that is the primary cause of my excess 4st. But, as I live alone now, if I didn't go to my village local I wouldnt be able to talk bollox to my local friends and acquaintances. Devil and the deep blue sea |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 2, 2023 9:01:40 GMT
Diets are pretty easy. Just eat less and move more. It really is that simple.
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Post by Cheshiregas on May 2, 2023 9:03:36 GMT
I am considered overweight by NHS standards.
6 feet tall and 15 1/2 stone. Apparently I should range between 11 1/2 and 12 1/2 stone on the NHS scale...
I think the main concern is younger people whose average weight is rising and many are already developing bad habits and doing less sport before they get to their 20s.
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Post by baselswh on May 2, 2023 9:11:32 GMT
Diets are pretty easy. Just eat less and move more. It really is that simple. The theory is "simple". |
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Post by oldie on May 2, 2023 15:30:10 GMT
Diets are pretty easy. Just eat less and move more. It really is that simple. Agreed But I drink beer to compensate š± |
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Post by baselswh on May 2, 2023 16:29:05 GMT
I am considered overweight by NHS standards. 6 feet tall and 15 1/2 stone. Apparently I should range between 11 1/2 and 12 1/2 stone on the NHS scale... I think the main concern is younger people whose average weight is rising and many are already developing bad habits and doing less sport before they get to their 20s. I think and with the greatest respect Chesh,the NHS height weight guideline says you are actually in the very low level of "obesity".You might just be in the "overweight " section. Google "weight to height chart nhs" to see what I go by. Maybe someone could post it up please. |
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Post by baselswh on May 2, 2023 16:50:12 GMT
The NHS has in recent times had to purchase bariatric ambulances which are designed to take people over 50 stone in weight. People over 30 stone are becoming more regular. On occasions my wife and her colleagues who work frontline ambulance have had to call out the Fire Service to remove windows and hoist people out. That's not good for anyone. I am overweight, 19st, but 6'3" so entitled to a bit. But I drink too much, that is the primary cause of my excess 4st. But, as I live alone now, if I didn't go to my village local I wouldnt be able to talk bollox to my local friends and acquaintances. Devil and the deep blue sea Yep,isolation is not healthy Oldie,I get that ,it's not very nice.Even my limited intellect needs to be expressed and it ain't no good if it ain't. Afraid you're in the NHS obese category,but as you say,the locals do get to hear your point of view and you theirs. Not always easy to find balance,I find. |
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Post by trymer on May 2, 2023 17:01:43 GMT
I am considered overweight by NHS standards. 6 feet tall and 15 1/2 stone. Apparently I should range between 11 1/2 and 12 1/2 stone on the NHS scale... I think the main concern is younger people whose average weight is rising and many are already developing bad habits and doing less sport before they get to their 20s. I think and with the greatest respect Chesh,the NHS height weight guideline says you are actually in the very low level of "obesity".You might just be in the "overweight " section. Google "weight to height chart nhs" to see what I go by. Maybe someone could post it up please. I think that you are talking about BMI (body mass index) its a very rough guideline in fact lots of people dont rate it at all. A few years ago I had a VERY large nurse tell me that I needed to lose 6 kilos to comply with the NHS guidelines,she went very red when I asked her for some advice on what else I could do as I was at the gym 5 times a week,didnt drink alcohol or fizzy drinks,didnt each junk food/takeaways... On the other hand I know a few alcoholics,one is not overweight at all,he rides a bike hardly eats and is certainly within the correct BMI range,he is however in very poor health and he looks at least 10 years older than he is (I am being generous). |
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Post by trymer on May 2, 2023 17:13:57 GMT
I am overweight, 19st, but 6'3" so entitled to a bit. But I drink too much, that is the primary cause of my excess 4st. But, as I live alone now, if I didn't go to my village local I wouldnt be able to talk bollox to my local friends and acquaintances. Devil and the deep blue sea Yep,isolation is not healthy Oldie,I get that ,it's not very nice.Even my limited intellect needs to be expressed and it ain't no good if it ain't. Afraid you're in the NHS obese category,but as you say,the locals do get to hear your point of view and you theirs. Not always easy to find balance,I find. Balance.... I think thats an important consideration, better (imo) to be a few pounds overweight than to become obsessed with weight/BMI etc. There was a bloke at a gym that I went to he was late 60s maybe early 70s,worked out with weights and did some cardio, he was ripped with a physique that would have been good for a bloke half his age...but I remember him saying that he didnt go on holiday because in a hotel he wouldnt have control of what he was eating/how it was cooked,imo thats obsession. People with addictive personalities can become addicted to training,not the worst addiction but no addiction is good. We live in a time where lots of jobs have become easier because of automation or power tools, people jump in the car to go shopping, overall we are burning off less calories in our normal lives, there was less need of going to the gym after a day down the pit or carrying tiles up a ladder onto a roof. |
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Post by baselswh on May 2, 2023 17:17:17 GMT
I think and with the greatest respect Chesh,the NHS height weight guideline says you are actually in the very low level of "obesity".You might just be in the "overweight " section. Google "weight to height chart nhs" to see what I go by. Maybe someone could post it up please. I think that you are talking about BMI (body mass index) its a very rough guideline in fact lots of people dont rate it at all. A few years ago IĀ had a VERY large nurse tell me that I needed to lose 6 kilos to comply with the NHS guidelines,she went very red when I asked her for some advice on what else I could do as I was at the gym 5 times a week,didnt drink alcohol or fizzy drinks,didnt each junk food/takeaways... On the other hand I know a few alcoholics,one is not overweight at all,he rides a bike hardly eats and is certainly within the correct BMI range,he is however in very poor health and he looks at least 10 years older than he is (I am being generous). Yeh,I think that's the one Trymer. A rough guide,but generally quite sensible. I mean some alcoholics (I suppose we all know or have known some) are very thin because they have a largely liquid diet and possible smoke too.Their liver might of taken a good hiding course. |
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Post by trymer on May 2, 2023 17:27:57 GMT
I think that you are talking about BMI (body mass index) its a very rough guideline in fact lots of people dont rate it at all. A few years ago I had a VERY large nurse tell me that I needed to lose 6 kilos to comply with the NHS guidelines,she went very red when I asked her for some advice on what else I could do as I was at the gym 5 times a week,didnt drink alcohol or fizzy drinks,didnt each junk food/takeaways... On the other hand I know a few alcoholics,one is not overweight at all,he rides a bike hardly eats and is certainly within the correct BMI range,he is however in very poor health and he looks at least 10 years older than he is (I am being generous). Yeh,I think that's the one Trymer. A rough guide,but generally quite sensible. I mean some alcoholics (I suppose we all know or have known some) are very thin because they have a largely liquid diet and possible smoke too.Their liver might of taken a good hiding course. Liver,blood pressure, Diabetes, stomach problems, I heard on the radio last week that the amount of people drinking themselves to death is up again in the UK, the lockdown was mentioned as a factor. I know a few people who have said that they drank a lot more in 20/21, I wonder if people who had a bit of a drink problem went completely overboard then ? I certainly noticed overflowing recycling bins. |
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Post by baselswh on May 2, 2023 17:31:57 GMT
Yeh,I think that's the one Trymer. A rough guide,but generally quite sensible. I mean some alcoholics (I suppose we all know or have known some) are very thin because they have a largely liquid diet and possible smoke too.Their liver might of taken a good hiding course. Liver,blood pressure, Diabetes, stomach problems, I heard on the radio last week that the amount of people drinking themselves to death is up again in the UK, the lockdown was mentioned as a factor. I know a few people who have said that they drank a lot more in 20/21, I wonder if people who had a bit of a drink problem went completely overboard then ?Ā I certainly noticed overflowing recycling bins. It was a tough time for many.A horrible new experience. I know a woman,a good girl she is,3 little ones.Her bloke went ott on drugs and booze during Covid.He's apparently okay now,but they've split.She's left alone with the 3 little ones. A typical Covid tale. |
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Post by trymer on May 2, 2023 17:39:49 GMT
Liver,blood pressure, Diabetes, stomach problems, I heard on the radio last week that the amount of people drinking themselves to death is up again in the UK, the lockdown was mentioned as a factor. I know a few people who have said that they drank a lot more in 20/21, I wonder if people who had a bit of a drink problem went completely overboard then ? I certainly noticed overflowing recycling bins. It was a tough time for many.A horrible new experience. I know a woman,a good girl she is,3 little ones.Her bloke went ott on drugs and booze during Covid.He's apparently okay now,but they've split.She's left alone with the 3 little ones. A typical Covid tale. Someone I know carried on working right through but his Mrs and son were furloughed,when we had that nice weather he was going home from work at 4 and Mrs and lad were sat in the garden hammered because they started drinking at lunchtime. Another bloke said that he was furloughed and every day was Christmas day,started cracking cans open at 10am,this went on for 6 weeks then he got bored and knocked it all on the head. Very cheap supermarket booze seems to have exacerbated the amount of problem drinkers. |
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Post by trymer on May 4, 2023 14:51:11 GMT
Was at the gym today and one of the PTs was attempting to train a very large woman,I guess that she was in her 40s and probably 18 stone (about 5'2" tall) they had to give up on what he was trying to get her to do as she was unable to kneel down.
I was reminded that a little while ago at the same gym there were a couple of even larger women on GP referral,one of them came to a Pilates class and was unable to sit on the floor ! she had to sit on a stool it was pathetic to see,after the class the instructor told her that she needed to lose some weight before she could do Pilates properly,the woman started to cry and never came back.
The other woman was quite young,in her 20s and probably over 20 stone (about 5' tall) she sat at the hand bike,she had her phone in one hand and just used the other hand to spin the pedal for half an hour or so !!!!! she was there for about 3 sessions doing the same thing before she disappeared I suppose that she was disappointed that she wasnt seeing any results....
I just wonder how people actually get that big ? it really seems unnatural.
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Post by baselswh on May 10, 2023 6:35:22 GMT
Diabetes related deaths.
Apparently an extra 7000 Britons,than normal,have died.
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Post by trymer on May 10, 2023 9:30:59 GMT
Diabetes related deaths. Apparently 7000 Britons die a year from it. I have read that 70,000 die a year from Diabetes in the UK. There seems to have been an increase,maybe more alcohol/less exercise during lockdown ? I know 2 people with Diabetes and they dont help themselves,they both drink and neither of them exercise enough. |
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Post by baselswh on May 10, 2023 9:38:19 GMT
Diabetes related deaths. Apparently 7000 Britons die a year from it. I have read that 70,000 die a year from Diabetes in the UK. There seems to have been an increase,maybe more alcohol/less exercise during lockdown ? I know 2 people with Diabetes and they dont help themselves,they both drink and neither of them exercise enough. Beg your pardon Trymer,yes,7000 extra deaths than normal.Thanks.š That's alot! |
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Post by trymer on May 10, 2023 9:52:22 GMT
I have read that 70,000 die a year from Diabetes in the UK. There seems to have been an increase,maybe more alcohol/less exercise during lockdown ? I know 2 people with Diabetes and they dont help themselves,they both drink and neither of them exercise enough. Beg your pardon Trymer,yes,7000 extra deaths than normal.Thanks.š That's alot! It is a lot,and if you add people dying of cirrhosis and other conditions caused by alcohol and the add deaths from lung cancer and heart disease caused by smoking you have a huge amount of unnecessary deaths. Maybe a new subject at school 'life' could teach good habits and inform about the consequences of bad habits, diet, PT and a fitness regime, would have done me more good than Music or RE. |
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Post by oldie on May 10, 2023 14:35:15 GMT
Bloody classic this thread.
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Post by trymer on May 11, 2023 10:12:39 GMT
Diabetes related deaths. Apparently an extra 7000 Britons,than normal,have died. Edited. Have a look at Obesity NHS theres a long list of conditions that obese people are likely to suffer from. I also read that there are links between obesity and mental health issues and depression, not sure if this means that obese people get depressed because they're obese ? trouble is that some of them probably 'comfort eat' when they feel down and make the situation worse still.... |
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