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Post by hamdonmart on Oct 10, 2022 13:09:35 GMT
Someone mentioned possession and Cambridge having 62%. Having been at the game and seeing where most of that possession was,it wasn't threatening at all. We could easily have won by 4 clear goals but for their keeper. Spot on, Doc. Official OPTA stats for the game say Rovers had 15 shots, 6 shots on target while Cambridge had 17 shots, 5 on target. Cambridge had 180+ more passes than Rovers but most of them were sideways across the pitch and didn't threaten. Rovers started with a back four (Gibbons-Hoole-Thomas-Gordon and went back 3 for a while in the second half when Gibson replaced Coburn (Hoole-Thomas-Gibson with Gibbons and Gordon as WB's). From memory, I think they reverted to back four when McCormick came on for Gibbons (Hoole-Thomas-Gibson-Gordon) so really only played nine minutes with a back three/five. Finally, and most importantly, Rovers scored 66.66*% of the goals and Cambridge only 33.33*% of the goals so Rovers won!  |
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Post by oldie on Oct 10, 2022 13:16:06 GMT
Someone mentioned possession and Cambridge having 62%. Having been at the game and seeing where most of that possession was,it wasn't threatening at all. We could easily have won by 4 clear goals but for their keeper. I did. But you make my point Doc. We conceded 62% against an average L1 team and won 2-1, holding on at the end and reliant upon a couple of good saves from Belly. (I wasn't there, correct me if that characterisation is wrong) Given our upcoming fixtures, is that tenable? For clarity I think we have a very decent squad. I am just baffled by the manager's tactics. I have my ticket for the Plymouth game, so will be able to judge again in real time. The previous nights BRFC Former Players dinner will hopefully top off a good weekend |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Oct 10, 2022 13:38:10 GMT
That’s just utter bollocks. Every team in our league has to cope with stuff like that. It's only the ones who lose a string of winnable games that use this as an excuse. We have a pretty good squad all things considered. We haven't helped ourselves by the manager thinking he is a tactical genius and unnecessarily tinkering with a game plan that worked for the players we have at our disposal. Rubbish. Based on a desire to see the manager gone,rather than football commonsense. Joe is'nt scared to experiment. Sometimes it works,other times not.He is honest enough to say when it does'nt. It's refreshing to have a manager prepared to take a step back,to then take 3 forward later. I've posted for weeks now that we'll perk up in October.From October 1st we've began to perk up. When a team is missing significant players,it usually means less points on the board. Man Utd's struggles when Bryan Robson was absent.The centre half at Liverpool a season or two ago.Two examples. The season is not a sprint,but a marathon. We have an excellent coaching set up. You anti Bartoners are getting a wee bit cleverer in your crusade against Bristol Rovers manager,I'll give you that. Demanding instant great stuff from the team because it should be easy to beat FGR eg.Then hoping Joe's team does'nt reach the high standards you pretend should be 'comfortable ' for Rovers.As I said,Nailsworth beat Bolton Wanderers Saturday. It's a competitive division,any fc can give any fc a good game.I love it. Remember that do you? Enthusiam for the game Even though your argument is now "a wee bit cleverer" ,it is still all about your desire to get rid of Joe and not about football. A ridiculously negative,miserable and boring way to look at football. Sad and pathetic. You do post some utter tripe. What is sad and pathetic is the adulation you heap on someone who has one abject relegation and one exciting promotion to his name in two years with us and on current trajectory is more likely to achieve another of the former rather than the latter. Your hero worship of him is going to end in tears one day when you realise he has feet of clay. He’s never going to shag you no matter how hard you try. And don’t pigeonhole me as being one of the anti-Barton club or as hoping that we lose. I don’t like the off the field shenanigans that come with him, but my main objection to him is that I don’t think he is a good manager. Last season wiped the slate clean from the season before, but that only happened when he stopped meddling and stuck to a game plan that worked with the players here. Happy for him to prove me wrong on that score at least. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 10, 2022 13:40:52 GMT
Rubbish. Based on a desire to see the manager gone,rather than football commonsense. Joe is'nt scared to experiment. Sometimes it works,other times not.He is honest enough to say when it does'nt. It's refreshing to have a manager prepared to take a step back,to then take 3 forward later. I've posted for weeks now that we'll perk up in October.From October 1st we've began to perk up. When a team is missing significant players,it usually means less points on the board. Man Utd's struggles when Bryan Robson was absent.The centre half at Liverpool a season or two ago.Two examples. The season is not a sprint,but a marathon. We have an excellent coaching set up. You anti Bartoners are getting a wee bit cleverer in your crusade against Bristol Rovers manager,I'll give you that. Demanding instant great stuff from the team because it should be easy to beat FGR eg.Then hoping Joe's team does'nt reach the high standards you pretend should be 'comfortable ' for Rovers.As I said,Nailsworth beat Bolton Wanderers Saturday. It's a competitive division,any fc can give any fc a good game.I love it. Remember that do you? Enthusiam for the game Even though your argument is now "a wee bit cleverer" ,it is still all about your desire to get rid of Joe and not about football. A ridiculously negative,miserable and boring way to look at football. Sad and pathetic. You do post some utter tripe. What is sad and pathetic is the adulation you heap on someone who has one abject relegation and one exciting promotion to his name in two years with us and on current trajectory is more likely to achieve another of the former rather than the latter. Your hero worship of him is going to end in tears one day when you realise he has feet of clay. He’s never going to shag you no matter how hard you try. And don’t pigeonhole me as being one of the anti-Barton club or as hoping that we lose. I don’t like the off the field shenanigans that come with him, but my main objection to him is that I don’t think he is a good manager. Last season wiped the slate clean from the season before, but that only happened when he stopped meddling and stuck to a game plan that worked with the players here. Happy for him to prove me wrong on that score at least. This👆👆 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2022 13:41:30 GMT
Someone mentioned possession and Cambridge having 62%. Having been at the game and seeing where most of that possession was,it wasn't threatening at all. We could easily have won by 4 clear goals but for their keeper. I did. But you make my point Doc. We conceded 62% against an average L1 team and won 2-1, holding on at the end and reliant upon a couple of good saves from Belly. (I wasn't there, correct me if that characterisation is wrong) Given our upcoming fixtures, is that tenable? For clarity I think we have a very decent squad. I am just baffled by the manager's tactics. I have my ticket for the Plymouth game, so will be able to judge again in real time. The previous nights BRFC Former Players dinner will hopefully top off a good weekend Jimmy made a couple of ok saves, agreed. I'd hardly say that was the difference between us drawing or losing though. I'll be missing the Plymouth game, which is a gutter as they're easily one of my favourite "other clubs", along with Port Vale (currently) and their fans are magnificent. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 10, 2022 13:43:08 GMT
I did. But you make my point Doc. We conceded 62% against an average L1 team and won 2-1, holding on at the end and reliant upon a couple of good saves from Belly. (I wasn't there, correct me if that characterisation is wrong) Given our upcoming fixtures, is that tenable? For clarity I think we have a very decent squad. I am just baffled by the manager's tactics. I have my ticket for the Plymouth game, so will be able to judge again in real time. The previous nights BRFC Former Players dinner will hopefully top off a good weekend Jimmy made a couple of ok saves, agreed. I'd hardly say that was the difference between us drawing or losing though. I'll be missing the Plymouth game, which is a gutter as they're easily one of my favourite "other clubs", along with Port Vale (currently) and their fans are magnificent. I will send you a full, unbiased, report 🤔😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2022 13:45:49 GMT
Jimmy made a couple of ok saves, agreed. I'd hardly say that was the difference between us drawing or losing though. I'll be missing the Plymouth game, which is a gutter as they're easily one of my favourite "other clubs", along with Port Vale (currently) and their fans are magnificent. I will send you a full, unbiased, report 🤔😂 Good stuff. I'll compare it to the reports Father Jack and my step son send. 😁 |
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Post by baselswh on Oct 10, 2022 14:23:26 GMT
Rubbish. Based on a desire to see the manager gone,rather than football commonsense. Joe is'nt scared to experiment. Sometimes it works,other times not.He is honest enough to say when it does'nt. It's refreshing to have a manager prepared to take a step back,to then take 3 forward later. I've posted for weeks now that we'll perk up in October.From October 1st we've began to perk up. When a team is missing significant players,it usually means less points on the board. Man Utd's struggles when Bryan Robson was absent.The centre half at Liverpool a season or two ago.Two examples. The season is not a sprint,but a marathon. We have an excellent coaching set up. You anti Bartoners are getting a wee bit cleverer in your crusade against Bristol Rovers manager,I'll give you that. Demanding instant great stuff from the team because it should be easy to beat FGR eg.Then hoping Joe's team does'nt reach the high standards you pretend should be 'comfortable ' for Rovers.As I said,Nailsworth beat Bolton Wanderers Saturday. It's a competitive division,any fc can give any fc a good game.I love it. Remember that do you? Enthusiam for the game Even though your argument is now "a wee bit cleverer" ,it is still all about your desire to get rid of Joe and not about football. A ridiculously negative,miserable and boring way to look at football. Sad and pathetic. You do post some utter tripe. What is sad and pathetic is the adulation you heap on someone who has one abject relegation and one exciting promotion to his name in two years with us and on current trajectory is more likely to achieve another of the former rather than the latter. Your hero worship of him is going to end in tears one day when you realise he has feet of clay. He’s never going to shag you no matter how hard you try. And don’t pigeonhole me as being one of the anti-Barton club or as hoping that we lose. I don’t like the off the field shenanigans that come with him, but my main objection to him is that I don’t think he is a good manager. Last season wiped the slate clean from the season before, but that only happened when he stopped meddling and stuck to a game plan that worked with the players here. Happy for him to prove me wrong on that score at least. You can't stand someone admiring JB the fc manager after an absolutely sensational promotion season. What's up with ya? "He's never going to shag you no matter how hard you try." No need for that is there and you have brass neck to worry about not being "pigeon holed" as an anti Bartoner. Come on,buck up. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 10, 2022 14:49:31 GMT
You do post some utter tripe. What is sad and pathetic is the adulation you heap on someone who has one abject relegation and one exciting promotion to his name in two years with us and on current trajectory is more likely to achieve another of the former rather than the latter. Your hero worship of him is going to end in tears one day when you realise he has feet of clay. He’s never going to shag you no matter how hard you try. And don’t pigeonhole me as being one of the anti-Barton club or as hoping that we lose. I don’t like the off the field shenanigans that come with him, but my main objection to him is that I don’t think he is a good manager. Last season wiped the slate clean from the season before, but that only happened when he stopped meddling and stuck to a game plan that worked with the players here. Happy for him to prove me wrong on that score at least. You can't stand someone admiring JB the fc manager after an absolutely sensational promotion season. What's up with ya? "He's never going to shag you no matter how hard you try." No need for that is there and you have brass neck to worry about not being "pigeon holed" as an anti Bartoner. Come on,buck up. 😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by rideintothesun on Oct 10, 2022 16:36:46 GMT
Rubbish. Based on a desire to see the manager gone,rather than football commonsense. Joe is'nt scared to experiment. Sometimes it works,other times not.He is honest enough to say when it does'nt. It's refreshing to have a manager prepared to take a step back,to then take 3 forward later. I've posted for weeks now that we'll perk up in October.From October 1st we've began to perk up. When a team is missing significant players,it usually means less points on the board. Man Utd's struggles when Bryan Robson was absent.The centre half at Liverpool a season or two ago.Two examples. The season is not a sprint,but a marathon. We have an excellent coaching set up. You anti Bartoners are getting a wee bit cleverer in your crusade against Bristol Rovers manager,I'll give you that. Demanding instant great stuff from the team because it should be easy to beat FGR eg.Then hoping Joe's team does'nt reach the high standards you pretend should be 'comfortable ' for Rovers.As I said,Nailsworth beat Bolton Wanderers Saturday. It's a competitive division,any fc can give any fc a good game.I love it. Remember that do you? Enthusiam for the game Even though your argument is now "a wee bit cleverer" ,it is still all about your desire to get rid of Joe and not about football. A ridiculously negative,miserable and boring way to look at football. Sad and pathetic. You do post some utter tripe. What is sad and pathetic is the adulation you heap on someone who has one abject relegation and one exciting promotion to his name in two years with us and on current trajectory is more likely to achieve another of the former rather than the latter. Your hero worship of him is going to end in tears one day when you realise he has feet of clay. He’s never going to shag you no matter how hard you try. And don’t pigeonhole me as being one of the anti-Barton club or as hoping that we lose. I don’t like the off the field shenanigans that come with him, but my main objection to him is that I don’t think he is a good manager. Last season wiped the slate clean from the season before, but that only happened when he stopped meddling and stuck to a game plan that worked with the players here. Happy for him to prove me wrong on that score at least. 'He's never going to shag you no matter how hard you try.' Received wisdom holds that 6 plus cans of lager is enough to 'turn' most heterosexual men towards actual sexual experimentation with the same sex. I should stress that this is what I have heard from those who are in a better position to know this. JB did a reasonable job at Fleetwood and talks a good game. But you are correct - the jury is very much still out on his credentials as a L1 manager, not least because of his appalling L1 record with us. |
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Post by rideintothesun on Oct 10, 2022 16:40:32 GMT
Someone mentioned possession and Cambridge having 62%. Having been at the game and seeing where most of that possession was,it wasn't threatening at all. We could easily have won by 4 clear goals but for their keeper. I did. But you make my point Doc. We conceded 62% against an average L1 team and won 2-1, holding on at the end and reliant upon a couple of good saves from Belly. (I wasn't there, correct me if that characterisation is wrong) Given our upcoming fixtures, is that tenable? For clarity I think we have a very decent squad. I am just baffled by the manager's tactics. I have my ticket for the Plymouth game, so will be able to judge again in real time. The previous nights BRFC Former Players dinner will hopefully top off a good weekend Not just you...I think JB baffles himself with his own tactical pronouncements. If he was half as clever as he thinks he is, Bristol's answer to Rinus Michels would be a decent L1 manager. |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Oct 10, 2022 16:58:10 GMT
You do post some utter tripe. What is sad and pathetic is the adulation you heap on someone who has one abject relegation and one exciting promotion to his name in two years with us and on current trajectory is more likely to achieve another of the former rather than the latter. Your hero worship of him is going to end in tears one day when you realise he has feet of clay. He’s never going to shag you no matter how hard you try. And don’t pigeonhole me as being one of the anti-Barton club or as hoping that we lose. I don’t like the off the field shenanigans that come with him, but my main objection to him is that I don’t think he is a good manager. Last season wiped the slate clean from the season before, but that only happened when he stopped meddling and stuck to a game plan that worked with the players here. Happy for him to prove me wrong on that score at least. 'He's never going to shag you no matter how hard you try.' Received wisdom holds that 6 plus cans of lager is enough to 'turn' most heterosexual men towards actual sexual experimentation with the same sex. I should stress that this is what I have heard from those who are in a better position to know this. JB did a reasonable job at Fleetwood and talks a good game. But you are correct - the jury is very much still out on his credentials as a L1 manager, not least because of his appalling L1 record with us. I’ve heard that Bas is 48 beers beautiful so he has no chance. Jury is out on his time at Fleetwood too I think. It didn’t end too well for him there and common consensus seems to be that they spent heavily during his tenure. In fairness he did have them punching above their weight but not massively better than where they are now. Likely they are just a well run club. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 10, 2022 17:07:27 GMT
You do post some utter tripe. What is sad and pathetic is the adulation you heap on someone who has one abject relegation and one exciting promotion to his name in two years with us and on current trajectory is more likely to achieve another of the former rather than the latter. Your hero worship of him is going to end in tears one day when you realise he has feet of clay. He’s never going to shag you no matter how hard you try. And don’t pigeonhole me as being one of the anti-Barton club or as hoping that we lose. I don’t like the off the field shenanigans that come with him, but my main objection to him is that I don’t think he is a good manager. Last season wiped the slate clean from the season before, but that only happened when he stopped meddling and stuck to a game plan that worked with the players here. Happy for him to prove me wrong on that score at least. 'He's never going to shag you no matter how hard you try.' Received wisdom holds that 6 plus cans of lager is enough to 'turn' most heterosexual men towards actual sexual experimentation with the same sex. I should stress that this is what I have heard from those who are in a better position to know this. JB did a reasonable job at Fleetwood and talks a good game. But you are correct - the jury is very much still out on his credentials as a L1 manager, not least because of his appalling L1 record with us. 😂😂😂 Reminds me of that American bar room joke. "What's the difference between a straight guy and a gay guy?" "Three vodka Martinis" 😜 |
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