Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 8, 2024 13:30:48 GMT
You have obviously missed earlier posts. The way the UK legal system works Bas, if you plead guilty, you can be sentenced at the first court meeting. If you plead innocent the Police and CPS have to gather evidence and build a case. That's what is happening in the Manchester and it can take a long time. You dont plead innocent,its a plea of guilty or not guilty..you either get found guilty or not guilty. Apologies, Trymer, I stand corrected. Sorry, written in a rush but the principle of building a case on a Not Guilty or no plea entered still stands. |
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Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 8, 2024 13:32:11 GMT
He's been suspended, what more do you want Starmer to do? If the police get involved there will be little he can do. should simply report him to the Police. Show them the evidence. He could manage that. Believing in the propaganda then Bas.... |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 8, 2024 13:36:31 GMT
Racists? Looking at the crowds there was quite a varied mix of people amongst them... There may have been a 'varied mix of people' but that doesnt mean that they arent racist to other ethnic groups,I had a mixed race lad working for me,nice family man and one day he said to me 'i know that i shouldnt say this but I effin hate Somalis'...another woman that I used to talk to was from South Africa (she referred to herself as coloured) really disliked Somalis too, a Turk that I knew disliked Arabs (and had no respect for women,he got banned from Toys r Us). I remember the Pakistanis in Sheffield having fights with the newly arrived Romany gypsies. Racism isnt just white people hating people of different skin colour.Didn't say it was, I meant that there were people from all walks of life, in very large crowds. I have had racial abuse aimed at me, including from Irish people, although I was told by them that you can't be racist about the English as they are not a race.... |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 8, 2024 13:40:02 GMT
Two Tier should simply report him to the Police. Show them the evidence. He could manage that. Believing in the propaganda then Bas.... Well Chesh,along with the hole in me ass,me eyes still work. |
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 8, 2024 13:57:30 GMT
Plymouth riots: Four men jailed after causing disorder in city centre, They were charged, convicted and jailed within 72 hours..By Carl Eve, Toby Codd & Jamie Hawkinsi2-prod.devonlive.com/incoming/article9467677.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/0_Untitled-design.jpgDaniel McGuire, .........................................................................Lucas Ormond Skeaping ..........................................................................Michael WilliamsFour men have been jailed today (Thursday, August 8) in connection with the recent riots in Plymouth. The far-right and counter-protesters clashed in the city and with police on Monday (August 5) with bricks thrown and windows smashed. Daniel McGuire, aged 45 and from Plymouth was jailed for 26 months. Michael Williams, aged 51 and of Sparkwell, was jailed for 32 months after they both admitted a charge of violent disorder. Lucas Ormond Skeaping, aged 29 and of Tavistock, also admitted a charge of violent disorder and was jailed for 18 months. A fourth man, Guy Sullivan, 43, pleaded guilty to burglary and was jailed for 16 months. A 17-year-old also pleaded guilty to offences and is due to be sentenced on September 5. Two other people who previously appeared at court have pleaded not guilty. Paul Braidwood, aged 44 and of Ward Place, has been remanded in custody and is due to appear at Truro Crown Court on Monday, September 2. Meanwhile, a 17-year-old boy from Plymouth has been released on conditional court bail.
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Post by aghast on Aug 8, 2024 13:58:55 GMT
Oh I forgot. Labour Councillor Ricky Jones, after suggesting we should cut the throats of people he considers Nazi,then led chants of "FREE FREE PALESTINE! " You could be a completely unpolitical person,bought yourself a new England shirt and while strolling down to the pub,get your throat slit ,by one of these fanatics ,triggered by your England shirt. That's a very worrying thought and terrible if such a thing were to happen. I suppose it helps us understand how black and brown skinned people have been feeling lately every time they step out of the house. What a time we live in. |
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Post by francegas on Aug 8, 2024 14:00:50 GMT
Just reported that a second police officer is now being investigated for criminal charges after the Manchester Airport incident, whilst the thugs that put two police officers in hospital (one with a broken nose) still haven't been charged.
This is getting ridiculous.
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Post by trymer on Aug 8, 2024 14:03:23 GMT
Plymouth riots: Four men jailed after causing disorder in city centre, They were charged, convicted and jailed within 72 hours..By Carl Eve, Toby Codd & Jamie Hawkinsi2-prod.devonlive.com/incoming/article9467677.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/0_Untitled-design.jpgDaniel McGuire, Michael Williams and Lucas Ormond Skeaping Four men have been jailed today (Thursday, August 8) in connection with the recent riots in Plymouth. The far-right and counter-protesters clashed in the city and with police on Monday (August 5) with bricks thrown and windows smashed. Daniel McGuire, aged 45 and from Plymouth was jailed for 26 months. Michael Williams, aged 51 and of Sparkwell, was jailed for 32 months after they both admitted a charge of violent disorder. Lucas Ormond Skeaping, aged 29 and of Tavistock, also admitted a charge of violent disorder and was jailed for 18 months. A fourth man, Guy Sullivan, 43, pleaded guilty to burglary and was jailed for 16 months. A 17-year-old also pleaded guilty to offences and is due to be sentenced on September 5. Two other people who previously appeared at court have pleaded not guilty. Paul Braidwood, aged 44 and of Ward Place, has been remanded in custody and is due to appear at Truro Crown Court on Monday, September 2. Meanwhile, a 17-year-old boy from Plymouth has been released on conditional court bail. 'pleaded guilty to burglary' we were talking in the Barbers this morning about this,half the people involved in these riots probably didnt know what the protest was supposed to be about. Loads of the older ones were drunk and just joined in,the younger ones pitched in because it was exciting and there were quite a few opportunists just looking for the opportunity to steal something, its the same scenario with most of the riots that we have in Britain.... |
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 8, 2024 14:06:48 GMT
Labour Councillor Ricky Jones, suspended after shouting something about 'cutting Nazi throats'. Last night. He should be arrested. Over to Two tier Kier. Labour councillor suspended after appearing to say rioters' throats should be cut.. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/08/13/88307861-13723539-image-m-31_1723121234880.jpgA Labour councillor has been suspended by the party after a video circulating online appeared to show he said that the throats of rioters should be cut at a counter demonstration last night. Ricky Jones, the Dartford Borough councillor, could also appear to be heard saying in the video that we need "get rid of them all", the PA news agency reported. A Labour Party spokesperson says "this behaviour is completely unacceptable and it will not be tolerated". The PA news agency understands that Jones has been administratively suspended and the whip has been removed, which means he can no longer be called a Labour councillor. |
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Post by trymer on Aug 8, 2024 14:08:18 GMT
Plymouth riots: Four men jailed after causing disorder in city centre, They were charged, convicted and jailed within 72 hours..By Carl Eve, Toby Codd & Jamie Hawkinsi2-prod.devonlive.com/incoming/article9467677.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/0_Untitled-design.jpgDaniel McGuire, .........................................................................Lucas Ormond Skeaping ..........................................................................Michael WilliamsFour men have been jailed today (Thursday, August 8) in connection with the recent riots in Plymouth. The far-right and counter-protesters clashed in the city and with police on Monday (August 5) with bricks thrown and windows smashed. Daniel McGuire, aged 45 and from Plymouth was jailed for 26 months. Michael Williams, aged 51 and of Sparkwell, was jailed for 32 months after they both admitted a charge of violent disorder. Lucas Ormond Skeaping, aged 29 and of Tavistock, also admitted a charge of violent disorder and was jailed for 18 months. A fourth man, Guy Sullivan, 43, pleaded guilty to burglary and was jailed for 16 months. A 17-year-old also pleaded guilty to offences and is due to be sentenced on September 5. Two other people who previously appeared at court have pleaded not guilty. Paul Braidwood, aged 44 and of Ward Place, has been remanded in custody and is due to appear at Truro Crown Court on Monday, September 2. Meanwhile, a 17-year-old boy from Plymouth has been released on conditional court bai |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 8, 2024 14:09:44 GMT
Plymouth riots: Four men jailed after causing disorder in city centre, They were charged, convicted and jailed within 72 hours..By Carl Eve, Toby Codd & Jamie Hawkinsi2-prod.devonlive.com/incoming/article9467677.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/0_Untitled-design.jpgDaniel McGuire, Michael Williams and Lucas Ormond Skeaping Four men have been jailed today (Thursday, August 8) in connection with the recent riots in Plymouth. The far-right and counter-protesters clashed in the city and with police on Monday (August 5) with bricks thrown and windows smashed. Daniel McGuire, aged 45 and from Plymouth was jailed for 26 months. Michael Williams, aged 51 and of Sparkwell, was jailed for 32 months after they both admitted a charge of violent disorder. Lucas Ormond Skeaping, aged 29 and of Tavistock, also admitted a charge of violent disorder and was jailed for 18 months. A fourth man, Guy Sullivan, 43, pleaded guilty to burglary and was jailed for 16 months. A 17-year-old also pleaded guilty to offences and is due to be sentenced on September 5. Two other people who previously appeared at court have pleaded not guilty. Paul Braidwood, aged 44 and of Ward Place, has been remanded in custody and is due to appear at Truro Crown Court on Monday, September 2. Meanwhile, a 17-year-old boy from Plymouth has been released on conditional court bail. 'pleaded guilty to burglary' we were talking in the Barbers this morning about this,half the people involved in these riots probably didnt know what the protest was supposed to be about. Loads of the older ones were drunk and just joined in,the younger ones pitched in because it was exciting and there were quite a few opportunists just looking for the opportunity to steal something, its the same scenario with most of the riots that we have in Britain.... Half the people posting here don't know what the protests were about either. 🙄 |
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 8, 2024 14:10:22 GMT
Plymouth riots: Four men jailed after causing disorder in city centre, They were charged, convicted and jailed within 72 hours..By Carl Eve, Toby Codd & Jamie Hawkinsi2-prod.devonlive.com/incoming/article9467677.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/0_Untitled-design.jpgDaniel McGuire, .........................................................................Lucas Ormond Skeaping ..........................................................................Michael WilliamsFour men have been jailed today (Thursday, August 8) in connection with the recent riots in Plymouth. The far-right and counter-protesters clashed in the city and with police on Monday (August 5) with bricks thrown and windows smashed. Daniel McGuire, aged 45 and from Plymouth was jailed for 26 months. Michael Williams, aged 51 and of Sparkwell, was jailed for 32 months after they both admitted a charge of violent disorder. Lucas Ormond Skeaping, aged 29 and of Tavistock, also admitted a charge of violent disorder and was jailed for 18 months. A fourth man, Guy Sullivan, 43, pleaded guilty to burglary and was jailed for 16 months. A 17-year-old also pleaded guilty to offences and is due to be sentenced on September 5. Two other people who previously appeared at court have pleaded not guilty. Paul Braidwood, aged 44 and of Ward Place, has been remanded in custody and is due to appear at Truro Crown Court on Monday, September 2. Meanwhile, a 17-year-old boy from Plymouth has been released on conditional court bail. Surely the names are wrong for the pictures,the middle one must be the 29 year old...and a lefty. Hi Trymer, they are right now... |
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Post by trymer on Aug 8, 2024 14:11:21 GMT
'pleaded guilty to burglary' we were talking in the Barbers this morning about this,half the people involved in these riots probably didnt know what the protest was supposed to be about. Loads of the older ones were drunk and just joined in,the younger ones pitched in because it was exciting and there were quite a few opportunists just looking for the opportunity to steal something, its the same scenario with most of the riots that we have in Britain.... Half the people posting here don't know what the protests were about either. 🙄 I said 'supposed to be about'. |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 8, 2024 14:12:22 GMT
Believing in the propaganda then Bas.... Well Chesh,along with the hole in me ass,me eyes still work. Which of those are you talking out of at the moment? 😃 Sorry Bas, couldn't resist. 👍 |
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Post by trymer on Aug 8, 2024 14:12:27 GMT
Surely the names are wrong for the pictures,the middle one must be the 29 year old...and a lefty. Hi Trymer, they are right now... I saw that BT so I changed my comment. |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 8, 2024 14:13:10 GMT
Half the people posting here don't know what the protests were about either. 🙄 I said 'supposed to be about'. Same thing. |
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Post by trymer on Aug 8, 2024 14:14:56 GMT
I said 'supposed to be about'. Same thing. No it isnt but you carry on believing whatever you want to. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 8, 2024 14:16:04 GMT
Oh I forgot. Labour Councillor Ricky Jones, after suggesting we should cut the throats of people he considers Nazi,then led chants of "FREE FREE PALESTINE! " You could be a completely unpolitical person,bought yourself a new England shirt and while strolling down to the pub,get your throat slit ,by one of these fanatics ,triggered by your England shirt. That's a very worrying thought and terrible if such a thing were to happen. I suppose it helps us understand how black and brown skinned people have been feeling lately every time they step out of the house. What a time we live in. Some guy got sent down for two years for something he posted on Facebook. This guy should have been arrested by now. He's actually inciting murder ! If he is not arrested and sent down it will only add fuel to the two-tier accusations. and WTF does the Free Free Palestine chant got to do with anything! |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 8, 2024 14:17:48 GMT
No it isnt but you carry on believing whatever you want to. Okay, half the people posting here don't know what the protests were supposed to about either. 🙄 |
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Post by trymer on Aug 8, 2024 14:21:57 GMT
That's a very worrying thought and terrible if such a thing were to happen. I suppose it helps us understand how black and brown skinned people have been feeling lately every time they step out of the house. What a time we live in. Some guy got sent down for two years for something he posted on Facebook. This guy should have been arrested by now. He's actually inciting murder ! If he is not arrested and sent down it will only add fuel to the two-tier accusations. and WTF does the Free Free Palestine chant got to do with anything! We have said before how the lack of democracy shown by politicians after the Brexit vote was very dangerous,now we are seeing the results 'if you dont agree with someone elses point of view kill them' . |
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