Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 8, 2024 11:08:54 GMT
One of the recently fast track judged,got jailed got 3 years for punching a Police Officer. The thugs of Manchester Airport,actually on film assaulting Police Offices ,with the WPC receiving a broken nose ,are still free,making videos pleading their innocence Two tier Kier. You have obviously missed earlier posts. The way the UK legal system works Bas, if you plead guilty, you can be sentenced at the first court meeting. If you plead innocent the Police and CPS have to gather evidence and build a case. That's what is happening in the Manchester and it can take a long time.
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 8, 2024 11:09:43 GMT
Two men sentenced to two years and eight months in prison over Merseyside disorder..by Dominic Casciani and Callum May, Reporting from Liverpool Crown Court.ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1024/cpsprodpb/ffdc/live/a0213be0-5572-11ef-aebc-6de4d31bf5cd.jpgPaul Lewis, speaking for both defendants [Nelson Morgan and O’Malley], tells the court that after a period of reflection they had realised that there was no grievance that can be righted by mob rule. Nelson Morgan, looks down as his lawyer tells the court that he is a widower and retired welder. “He has no experience of the custodial sentence that will follow. He accepts that he acted in drink and was disinhibited by the presence of a large crowd.” Lewis says John O’Malley has no record of public disorder criminality. “Both defendants are aware that they will receive sentences that are intended to provide punishment to them and act as a deterrence. “Both men want to profoundly apologise not only to the families of those killed in Southport but also to the police... and to the public.” Judge Andrew Menary KC is about to hand down the sentences to the two men in the dock. John O'Malley, 43, is jailed for 32 months for violent disorder over the riot outside a Southport mosque on 30 July - the day after the stabbing. The judge says O'Malley was at the front of "what was essentially a baying mob" throwing bricks and wheelie bins. "You were at the front and participating enthusiastically." William Nelson Morgan, 69, is jailed for 32 months for violent disorder and six months for possessing an offensive weapon after joining the riot in Liverpool on Saturday. The sentences will run concurrently. He was holding a small truncheon and it took three police officers to restrain him, the judge says. We have a bit more to bring you from Judge Andrew Menary KC now. He’s just sentenced pensioner William Nelson Morgan for his role in last Saturday's riot in Liverpool. "Your advancing years plainly did not prevent you from playing an active part in a disturbance on County Road," he says. He adds: "I think it is very sad indeed to see someone of your age and character in the dock of a Crown Court."
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Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 8, 2024 11:14:43 GMT
Amazing how regretful people who travel to a riot blame the drink. The MP 30p Lee Anderson dismissed the riots with the fact that people were drunk and not really bad people.
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Post by oldie on Aug 8, 2024 11:17:12 GMT
One of the recently fast track judged,got jailed got 3 years for punching a Police Officer. The thugs of Manchester Airport,actually on film assaulting Police Offices ,with the WPC receiving a broken nose ,are still free,making videos pleading their innocence Two tier Kier. You have obviously missed earlier posts. The way the UK legal system works Bas, if you plead guilty, you can be sentenced at the first court meeting. If you plead innocent the Police and CPS have to gather evidence and build a case. That's what is happening in the Manchester and it can take a long time. Proper judicial system Some would prefer a public lynching...due process? Pahhh
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 8, 2024 11:32:45 GMT
You have obviously missed earlier posts. The way the UK legal system works Bas, if you plead guilty, you can be sentenced at the first court meeting. If you plead innocent the Police and CPS have to gather evidence and build a case. That's what is happening in the Manchester and it can take a long time. Proper judicial system Some would prefer a public lynching...due process? Pahhh Ah, so in this thread it's a 'proper judicial system' with 'due process' while on the Begum thread you back Cheshire's claim that it's not ! Once again the word hypocrite jumps out !
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Post by oldie on Aug 8, 2024 11:41:53 GMT
Proper judicial system Some would prefer a public lynching...due process? Pahhh Ah, so in this thread it's a 'proper judicial system' with 'due process' while on the Begum thread you back Cheshire's claim that it's not ! Once again the word hypocrite jumps out ! Christ Nobby I never actually said anything. I was laughing because of Cheshire's barely disguised sarcasm...clearly went over your head as well
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Post by baselswh on Aug 8, 2024 12:10:34 GMT
Labour Councillor Ricky Jones, suspended after shouting something about 'cutting Nazi throats'. Last night.
He should be arrested.
Over to Two tier Kier.
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Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 8, 2024 12:13:45 GMT
Labour Councillor Ricky Jones, suspended after shouting something about 'cutting Nazi throats'. Last night. And so he should be, and I am glad that Labour has moved so quickly to do so.
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Post by baldrick on Aug 8, 2024 12:14:30 GMT
Labour Councillor Ricky Jones, suspended after shouting something about 'cutting Nazi throats'. Last night. He should be arrested. Over to Two tier Kier. Good, and any more like this.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 8, 2024 12:25:07 GMT
I've seen the film of Ricky doing his thing.
Pretty sure that's a crime and especially as he is in a position of authority.
Hopefully the Police will get involved .
Come on Two Tier Kier!
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Post by baldrick on Aug 8, 2024 12:41:28 GMT
I've seen the film of Ricky doing his thing. Pretty sure that's a crime and especially as he is in a position of authority. Hopefully the Police will get involved . Come on Two Tier Kier! He's been suspended, what more do you want Starmer to do? If the police get involved there will be little he can do.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 8, 2024 12:44:17 GMT
I've seen the film of Ricky doing his thing. Pretty sure that's a crime and especially as he is in a position of authority. Hopefully the Police will get involved . Come on Two Tier Kier! He's been suspended, what more do you want Starmer to do? If the police get involved there will be little he can do. Two Tier should simply report him to the Police. Show them the evidence. He could manage that.
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Post by trymer on Aug 8, 2024 12:46:10 GMT
Plenty of racist antisemites out last night then. Racists? Looking at the crowds there was quite a varied mix of people amongst them... There may have been a 'varied mix of people' but that doesnt mean that they arent racist to other ethnic groups,I had a mixed race lad working for me,nice family man and one day he said to me 'i know that i shouldnt say this but I effin hate Somalis'...another woman that I used to talk to was from South Africa (she referred to herself as coloured) really disliked Somalis too, a Turk that I knew disliked Arabs (and had no respect for women,he got banned from Toys r Us). I remember the Pakistanis in Sheffield having fights with the newly arrived Romany gypsies. Racism isnt just white people hating people of different skin colour.
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Post by trymer on Aug 8, 2024 12:48:11 GMT
One of the recently fast track judged,got jailed got 3 years for punching a Police Officer. The thugs of Manchester Airport,actually on film assaulting Police Offices ,with the WPC receiving a broken nose ,are still free,making videos pleading their innocence Two tier Kier. You have obviously missed earlier posts. The way the UK legal system works Bas, if you plead guilty, you can be sentenced at the first court meeting. If you plead innocent the Police and CPS have to gather evidence and build a case. That's what is happening in the Manchester and it can take a long time. You dont plead innocent,its a plea of guilty or not guilty..you either get found guilty or not guilty.
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Post by trymer on Aug 8, 2024 12:49:17 GMT
Labour Councillor Ricky Jones, suspended after shouting something about 'cutting Nazi throats'. Last night. He should be arrested. Over to Two tier Kier. I thought that it was jews and Zionists they didnt like ? now its Nazis too....confusing.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 8, 2024 12:50:46 GMT
Labour Councillor Ricky Jones, suspended after shouting something about 'cutting Nazi throats'. Last night. He should be arrested. Over to Two tier Kier. I thought that it was jews and Zionists they didnt like ? now its Nazis too....confusing. 🙂 Maybe he's old school Trymer.
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Post by oldie on Aug 8, 2024 12:52:18 GMT
Racists? Looking at the crowds there was quite a varied mix of people amongst them... There may have been a 'varied mix of people' but that doesnt mean that they arent racist to other ethnic groups,I had a mixed race lad working for me,nice family man and one day he said to me 'i know that i shouldnt say this but I effin hate Somalis'...another woman that I used to talk to was from South Africa (she referred to herself as coloured) really disliked Somalis too, a Turk that I knew disliked Arabs (and had no respect for women,he got banned from Toys r Us). I remember the Pakistanis in Sheffield having fights with the newly arrived Romany gypsies. Racism isnt just white people hating people of different skin colour. Shock, horror! Stupidity and ignorance is not defined by race, creed nor skin colour... Who knew
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Post by baselswh on Aug 8, 2024 12:57:51 GMT
Oh I forgot.
Labour Councillor Ricky Jones, after suggesting we should cut the throats of people he considers Nazi,then led chants of "FREE FREE PALESTINE! "
You could be a completely unpolitical person,bought yourself a new England shirt and while strolling down to the pub,get your throat slit ,by one of these fanatics ,triggered by your England shirt.
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Post by trymer on Aug 8, 2024 13:01:03 GMT
There may have been a 'varied mix of people' but that doesnt mean that they arent racist to other ethnic groups,I had a mixed race lad working for me,nice family man and one day he said to me 'i know that i shouldnt say this but I effin hate Somalis'...another woman that I used to talk to was from South Africa (she referred to herself as coloured) really disliked Somalis too, a Turk that I knew disliked Arabs (and had no respect for women,he got banned from Toys r Us). I remember the Pakistanis in Sheffield having fights with the newly arrived Romany gypsies. Racism isnt just white people hating people of different skin colour. Shock, horror! Stupidity and ignorance is not defined by race, creed nor skin colour... Who knew Is 'not Cheshire' the answer ?
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Post by trymer on Aug 8, 2024 13:02:18 GMT
Oh I forgot. Labour Councillor Ricky Jones, after suggesting we should cut the throats of people he considers Nazi,then led chants of "FREE FREE PALESTINE! " You could be a completely unpolitical person,bought yourself a new England shirt and while strolling down to the pub,get your throat slit ,by one of these fanatics ,triggered by your England shirt. And made a a Heil Hitler salute ?
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