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Post by trymer on Jul 31, 2024 11:44:56 GMT
In a way this clear up is probably quite good for the local community after the shocking events of the last days. No doubt my words will be twisted to say that I am thanking the rioters...or even the knifeman. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 31, 2024 11:45:48 GMT
How much longer is this going to be tolerated? Exactly what is wrong with my post? Say what or shut up.Please. Edit. The only questionable bit imo is " ungifted".I imagine there maybe a few with a talent for something. The fact that you don't see labelling people as "young, ungifted, crass and black" as profoundly prejudicial speaks volumes |
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Post by baldrick on Jul 31, 2024 11:46:45 GMT
How much longer is this going to be tolerated? Exactly what is wrong with my post? Say what or shut up.Please. Edit. The only questionable bit imo is " ungifted".I imagine there maybe a few with a talent for something. Hi Bas, don't forget my question earlier. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 31, 2024 11:47:12 GMT
Just when you think things cannot sink any lower....oh my god Lord get over yourself. I don't need to. It's you who is now scrambling to reword your posts... |
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Post by oldie on Jul 31, 2024 11:50:00 GMT
Exactly what is wrong with my post? Say what or shut up.Please. Edit. The only questionable bit imo is " ungifted".I imagine there maybe a few with a talent for something. Hi Bas, don't forget my question earlier. Just remind him. "What's it got to do with Islam"? |
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Post by baselswh on Jul 31, 2024 11:58:42 GMT
Exactly what is wrong with my post? Say what or shut up.Please. Edit. The only questionable bit imo is " ungifted".I imagine there maybe a few with a talent for something. The fact that you don't see labelling people as "young, ungifted, crass and black" as profoundly prejudicial speaks volumes "Young" "black" males are the usual suspects to take part in knife crime.It is "crass" behaviour. As this has been the case for sometime now,I have no problem pointing out the"usual suspects".It would be daft not to. You appear to be living in the 80s,your point of view is out of date with todays reality. |
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Post by Icegas on Jul 31, 2024 12:02:57 GMT
Ok maybe protesting is the word that I meant, and should have used. Big difference, hope that is what you mean. It is, I used the incorrect word. |
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 31, 2024 12:04:33 GMT
All I can say is wow, ok with rioting..... Just when you think things cannot sink any lower....oh my god For a person of "no faith" or beliefs,you certainly tend to rely on " god and Christ" a lot to express your feelings.... perhaps a few 'praise to Allah " might even things up.....and avoid you going down the " path to hell" 🤔Just something I've noticed 🙂 |
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Post by oldie on Jul 31, 2024 12:15:18 GMT
Just when you think things cannot sink any lower....oh my god For a person of "no faith" or beliefs,you certainly tend to rely on " god and Christ" a lot to express your feelings.... perhaps a few 'praise to Allah " might even things up.....and avoid you going down the " path to hell" 🤔Just something I've noticed 🙂 I am sure LiS, somewhere, there is some relevance to something in that post. Somewhere |
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Post by oldie on Jul 31, 2024 12:16:33 GMT
The fact that you don't see labelling people as "young, ungifted, crass and black" as profoundly prejudicial speaks volumes "Young" "black" males are the usual suspects to take part in knife crime.It is "crass" behaviour. As this has been the case for sometime now,I have no problem pointing out the"usual suspects".It would be daft not to. You appear to be living in the 80s,your point of view is out of date with todays reality. You said you had seen the videos, then made that remark...I think we can all see it for what it is. |
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Post by baldrick on Jul 31, 2024 12:36:10 GMT
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Post by Icegas on Jul 31, 2024 15:30:38 GMT
Just when you think things cannot sink any lower....oh my god For a person of "no faith" or beliefs,you certainly tend to rely on " god and Christ" a lot to express your feelings.... perhaps a few 'praise to Allah " might even things up.....and avoid you going down the " path to hell" 🤔Just something I've noticed 🙂 I've noticed myself...lol |
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Post by aghast on Jul 31, 2024 15:46:30 GMT
Trouble at a seaside resort - never seen that before have we? Blame Africans. I must have missed that post,where was that ? Oh please. This sort of hinting strongly at things leaving no doubt what is meant, but not quite coming out and saying the precise words (to avoid a ban and to plead innocence), and we all know how it works on here, is getting stretched beyond reason. The fact you knew immediately you had not said the word African, but reported it on here as soon as some right winger reported it on X, shows you know exactly what I meant. You need to be more subtle, since you're getting a bit careless. |
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Post by trymer on Jul 31, 2024 15:56:07 GMT
I must have missed that post,where was that ? Oh please. This sort of hinting strongly at things leaving no doubt what is meant, but not quite coming out and saying the precise words (to avoid a ban and to plead innocence), and we all know how it works on here, is getting stretched beyond reason. The fact you knew immediately you had not said the word African, but reported it on here as soon as some right winger reported it on X, shows you know exactly what I meant. You need to be more subtle, since you're getting a bit careless. I absolutely havent got a clue what you are talking about....if its a post that I made either put it or if you cant you need to admit that you have made this up....and I dont go on X so thats wrong anyway. |
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Post by francegas on Jul 31, 2024 16:37:15 GMT
Just to add my two pence worth.
1. Should Starmer have been heckled whilst laying a wreath.....No probably not. What he should have done is to have spoken to locals and reassure them what he plans to do rather than just walk off As should have Cooper.
2. Starmer should have returned to Parliament and immediately announce that from midnight anyone unlawfully carrying a knife will face a full 5 year prison sentence ...but no he didn't do that.
3. The Police should have announced the background of the individual arrested. Had the assailant been white you can bet your bottom dollar they would have announced that along the lines of "today we arrested a white 17yr old youth on suspicion of murder and attempted murder". The total silence of this "potentially" speaks volumes and that is why people are jumping to their own conclusions.
4. Should the name of the individual be released....absolutely it should. Little Jamie Bulgers killers names were released and they were aged 10. This individual is apparently 17.
5. Do I belive every one on the streets last night were far right. Absolutely not. I'm sure many were but likewise I believe others were angry irate locals with no links to any far right organisation.
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 31, 2024 16:44:08 GMT
Police say four arrests in Southport riot and 'more will follow'..by Owen Amos
Police say four people were arrested in the riots in Southport last night and "more will follow"
The men arrested are aged between 31 and 39, and are from Southport, St Helens, West Derby, and Manchester
In total, 53 police officers were injured last night, with at least 27 taken to hospital
Volunteers have repaired the damage caused by the riot, with dozens of people sweeping streets and rebuilding walls
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 31, 2024 16:46:55 GMT
Nigel Farage rejects accusation of 'whipping up' rioters..i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/25/22/87780281-13673903-image-a-72_1721942277774.jpgReform leader Nigel Farage has rejected accusations that comments he made on Tuesday "whipped up" rioters last night. Within a video posted on X last night, Farage expressed his "horror" at what happened on Monday, but also posed some questions. "Was this guy being monitored by the security services? Some reports say he was, others less sure," he says. "The police say it's a non-terror incident [...] I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don't know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question." James Cleverly is among those who have criticised the comments, telling the House of Commons "we have a personal responsibility to check before we share". This morning on Radio 4, Brendan Cox - who was married to the murdered MP Jo Cox - said it was "beyond the pale to use a moment like this to spread your narrative and to spread your hatred". But in response, Farage says it's "perfectly reasonable to ask what is happening to law and order in our country". As for Cox’s comparison of Farage being "no better than a Tommy Robinson in a suit" Farage says "the comment is beneath contempt".
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 31, 2024 16:51:06 GMT
Man stabbed in Southport attack 'saddened' he couldn't do more..Sharon Barbour, BBC News.i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/00/87923035-13686371-image-m-18_1722297564840.jpgA man who was stabbed as he tried to stop a knife attack in which three young girls died told the BBC he was "saddened" he could not have done more to protect them. Jonathan Hayes, who runs a business next door to the Southport studio where the attack took place, was in a critical condition after being stabbed in the leg and has undergone major surgery. From his hospital bed, he told the BBC he did not see himself as a hero, as some press reports were portraying him. Instead, he said: “Some would say confronting a guy wielding a hunting knife is utter madness”. Bebe King, six, Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, and nine-year-old Alice Dasilva Aguiar died in the attack, which took place at a Taylor Swift-themed dance class at the Hart Space centre on Monday. Eight children, Mr Hayes and one other adult were also injured, with several in critical condition. Mr Hayes, a director at Calculus Legal Costs Limited, ran next door after hearing the screams. As he tried to step in to save children, he came under attack himself. He had surgery on Tuesday and said he expected to be in hospital for some time because he currently "can't walk". Mr Hayes said he had been “overwhelmed by the number of well wishes I have received”, many from complete strangers, and that he wanted to thank everyone who had reached out. One such message, which he received from someone who had tracked him down after seeing his name in the news, read: "I just wanted to send my love, admiration and gratitude as a father of young children. "I pray there's a John Hayes out there to protect my children if/when the time comes. "I'm sure you wish you'd been able to do more but please be proud you acted at all." Saddened by the news of the girls' deaths, Mr Hayes said it would take a while to process everything that had happened.
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Post by baldrick on Jul 31, 2024 16:55:51 GMT
Police say four arrests in Southport riot and 'more will follow'..by Owen AmosPolice say four people were arrested in the riots in Southport last night and "more will follow" The men arrested are aged between 31 and 39, and are from Southport, St Helens, West Derby, and Manchester In total, 53 police officers were injured last night, with at least 27 taken to hospital Volunteers have repaired the damage caused by the riot, with dozens of people sweeping streets and rebuilding walls Good, hopefully heavy fines to pay something back for the damage done. |
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Post by baldrick on Jul 31, 2024 16:56:52 GMT
Nigel Farage rejects accusation of 'whipping up' rioters..i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/25/22/87780281-13673903-image-a-72_1721942277774.jpgReform leader Nigel Farage has rejected accusations that comments he made on Tuesday "whipped up" rioters last night. Within a video posted on X last night, Farage expressed his "horror" at what happened on Monday, but also posed some questions. "Was this guy being monitored by the security services? Some reports say he was, others less sure," he says. "The police say it's a non-terror incident [...] I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don't know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question." James Cleverly is among those who have criticised the comments, telling the House of Commons "we have a personal responsibility to check before we share". This morning on Radio 4, Brendan Cox - who was married to the murdered MP Jo Cox - said it was "beyond the pale to use a moment like this to spread your narrative and to spread your hatred". But in response, Farage says it's "perfectly reasonable to ask what is happening to law and order in our country". As for Cox’s comparison of Farage being "no better than a Tommy Robinson in a suit" Farage says "the comment is beneath contempt". Nigel believing what is possibly a Russian troll Internet rumour? Why am I not surprised. |
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