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Post by trymer on Jul 30, 2024 11:47:51 GMT
I was talking with a good friend today,we got onto the subject of the Southport stabbings and he said that he feels that he has become 'desensitised' to terrible events because they happen every week now.
I remember the uproar when Jamie Bulger was killed and there doesnt seem to be the same shock about Southport,more a feeling of its just the latest in an endless chain of savage killings and on we go to the next one.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 11:51:55 GMT
What is interesting is that the Police are willing to release the information that the murderer was 'born in Cardiff', but nothing else.
The authorities could quite easily stop the speculation by releasing the details of the murderer. Why won't they do that as the information will come out eventually.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 11:55:10 GMT
I was talking with a good friend today,we got onto the subject of the Southport stabbings and he said that he feels that he has become 'desensitised' to terrible events because they happen every week now. I remember the uproar when Jamie Bulger was killed and there doesnt seem to be the same shock about Southport,more a feeling of its just the latest in an endless chain of savage killings and on we go to the next one. That is because we will be told it's a "mental health issue" and these events are "very rare". Nothing to see here. Move along please. It's the easy way out for the authorities as they then don't have to address the underlying reason for these things happening. |
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Post by trymer on Jul 30, 2024 12:01:56 GMT
What is interesting is that the Police are willing to release the information that the murderer was 'born in Cardiff', but nothing else. The authorities could quite easily stop the speculation by releasing the details of the murderer. Why won't they do that as the information will come out eventually. I read on the BBC that he moved from cardiff aged 6 and had Rwandan parents. They were very quick to say that they didnt think it was terror related. |
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Post by trymer on Jul 30, 2024 12:06:12 GMT
I was talking with a good friend today,we got onto the subject of the Southport stabbings and he said that he feels that he has become 'desensitised' to terrible events because they happen every week now. I remember the uproar when Jamie Bulger was killed and there doesnt seem to be the same shock about Southport,more a feeling of its just the latest in an endless chain of savage killings and on we go to the next one. That is because we will be told it's a "mental health issue" and these events are "very rare". Nothing to see here. Move along please. It's the easy way out for the authorities as they then don't have to address the underlying reason for these things happening. Talking to a bloke about this today and he told me that he had been stabbed in a fight in town,he was lucky that it missed vital organs, he agreed that there need to be proper sentences passed on people carrying knives (a full 10 years) and much longer sentences for people who stab someone. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 12:19:47 GMT
What is interesting is that the Police are willing to release the information that the murderer was 'born in Cardiff', but nothing else. The authorities could quite easily stop the speculation by releasing the details of the murderer. Why won't they do that as the information will come out eventually. To keep things calm whilst they conclude their investigation. Feelings are raw, angry, understandably. Given the depth of feeling with these poor children being murdered in this unbelievable manner, the last thing we need is more tragedy |
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Post by pop up pirate on Jul 30, 2024 12:20:42 GMT
From BBC Verify: "Almost immediately after the deadly stabbing attack in Southport, baseless rumours began spreading online. While police and emergency services were still responding to the attack, a widely shared LinkedIn post claimed without evidence that "a migrant" was responsible. But the most viral source of rumours so far has been a report published on an obscure US-based website which claims to cover "breaking news". The report falsely claims that that the 17-year old suspect is an "asylum seeker" named "Ali Al-Shakati", who "arrived in the UK by boat last year". Merseyside Police has confirmed that the suspect was born in Cardiff, and has yet to identify the 17-year-old. The report also adds that the suspect was "on the MI6 watch list", despite the fact that it is MI5, not MI6, that deals with domestic counter-terrorism cases. The name "Ali Al-Shakati" has since been widely shared online in posts viewed by millions. Some other outlets, including Russia's RT news channel, have also reported this name, citing the US-based website. Other variations of the report, including the claim that the suspect was a "Channel migrant", have also been widely circulated" www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cevwgqz0x41t |
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Post by baselswh on Jul 30, 2024 12:35:39 GMT
What is interesting is that the Police are willing to release the information that the murderer was 'born in Cardiff', but nothing else. The authorities could quite easily stop the speculation by releasing the details of the murderer. Why won't they do that as the information will come out eventually. I think it's because this murderer is a Muslim and part of our imported crime wave. Labour and Conservative are scared of them they bulls**t about them hoping Britons don't notice. Eg, those Muslim thugs that attacked the Police,well the protest crowd outside the Police Station in Rochdale, they had a loud speaker and told the Poice 'if we see the one Copper again,out on duty,we'll sort him'. No arrests. Just bulls**t,can't upset f**king Islam and it's f**king "communities". Powder keg Britain. |
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Post by Icegas on Jul 30, 2024 12:40:49 GMT
From BBC Verify: "Almost immediately after the deadly stabbing attack in Southport, baseless rumours began spreading online. While police and emergency services were still responding to the attack, a widely shared LinkedIn post claimed without evidence that "a migrant" was responsible. But the most viral source of rumours so far has been a report published on an obscure US-based website which claims to cover "breaking news". The report falsely claims that that the 17-year old suspect is an "asylum seeker" named "Ali Al-Shakati", who "arrived in the UK by boat last year". Merseyside Police has confirmed that the suspect was born in Cardiff, and has yet to identify the 17-year-old. The report also adds that the suspect was "on the MI6 watch list", despite the fact that it is MI5, not MI6, that deals with domestic counter-terrorism cases. The name "Ali Al-Shakati" has since been widely shared online in posts viewed by millions. Some other outlets, including Russia's RT news channel, have also reported this name, citing the US-based website. Other variations of the report, including the claim that the suspect was a "Channel migrant", have also been widely circulated" www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cevwgqz0x41tSee my gut instinct is that the killer was from an immigrant background even if he was born here. Am I wrong..? Possibly. But the police have covered up the names of attackers, or have hidden facts and are not calling it a terror attack, but rather someone with mental health issues due to the attackers ethnic, or religious background. An example of this was the attack last week on our soilder. People are fed up with this happening, and due to most of these attacks that happen here all to frequently are done by Islamic extremists people are putting 2 and 2 together. |
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Post by Icegas on Jul 30, 2024 12:43:18 GMT
What is interesting is that the Police are willing to release the information that the murderer was 'born in Cardiff', but nothing else. The authorities could quite easily stop the speculation by releasing the details of the murderer. Why won't they do that as the information will come out eventually. I think it's because this murderer is a Muslim and part of our imported crime wave. Labour and Conservative are scared of them they bulls**t about them hoping Britons don't notice. Eg, those Muslim thugs that attacked the Police,well the protest crowd outside the Police Station in Rochdale, they had a loud speaker and told the Poice 'if we see the one Copper again,out on duty,we'll sort him'. No arrests. Just bulls**t,can't upset f**king Islam and it's f**king "communities". Powder keg Britain. I'm sorry, but that sadly is the truth. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 12:58:23 GMT
From BBC Verify: "Almost immediately after the deadly stabbing attack in Southport, baseless rumours began spreading online. While police and emergency services were still responding to the attack, a widely shared LinkedIn post claimed without evidence that "a migrant" was responsible. But the most viral source of rumours so far has been a report published on an obscure US-based website which claims to cover "breaking news". The report falsely claims that that the 17-year old suspect is an "asylum seeker" named "Ali Al-Shakati", who "arrived in the UK by boat last year". Merseyside Police has confirmed that the suspect was born in Cardiff, and has yet to identify the 17-year-old. The report also adds that the suspect was "on the MI6 watch list", despite the fact that it is MI5, not MI6, that deals with domestic counter-terrorism cases. The name "Ali Al-Shakati" has since been widely shared online in posts viewed by millions. Some other outlets, including Russia's RT news channel, have also reported this name, citing the US-based website. Other variations of the report, including the claim that the suspect was a "Channel migrant", have also been widely circulated" www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cevwgqz0x41tGiven the incredible vitriol on here, this post is like a sea of reason. Others appear to be akin to barking dogs at the gates |
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 13:02:32 GMT
I think it's because this murderer is a Muslim and part of our imported crime wave. Labour and Conservative are scared of them they bulls**t about them hoping Britons don't notice. Eg, those Muslim thugs that attacked the Police,well the protest crowd outside the Police Station in Rochdale, they had a loud speaker and told the Poice 'if we see the one Copper again,out on duty,we'll sort him'. No arrests. Just bulls**t,can't upset f**king Islam and it's f**king "communities". Powder keg Britain. I'm sorry, but that sadly is the truth. " I think it's because this murderer is a Muslim and part of our imported crime wave." So which of the rumours are true? Is he a Muslim or a Rwandan. Although not impossible to be both, it's unlikely because only less than 2% of Rwandans are Muslim. And the police have said, he was born in Cardiff. |
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Post by baselswh on Jul 30, 2024 13:06:00 GMT
Both Labour and Conservative have blood on their hands.
They are part of the problem.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 30, 2024 13:07:30 GMT
I'm sorry, but that sadly is the truth. " I think it's because this murderer is a Muslim and part of our imported crime wave." So which of the rumours are true? Is he a Muslim or a Rwandan. Although not impossible to be both, it's unlikely because only less than 2% of Rwandans are Muslim. And the police have said, he was born in Cardiff. . This bit: Labour and Conservative are scared of them they bulls**t about them hoping Britons don't notice. Eg, those Muslim thugs that attacked the Police,well the protest crowd outside the Police Station in Rochdale, they had a loud speaker and told the Poice 'if we see the one Copper again,out on duty,we'll sort him'. No arrests. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 13:09:54 GMT
Both Labour and Conservative have blood on their hands. They are part of the problem. What? So now this horrific event is now a party political issue? |
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 13:12:02 GMT
" I think it's because this murderer is a Muslim and part of our imported crime wave." So which of the rumours are true? Is he a Muslim or a Rwandan. Although not impossible to be both, it's unlikely because only less than 2% of Rwandans are Muslim. And the police have said, he was born in Cardiff. . This bit: Labour and Conservative are scared of them they bulls**t about them hoping Britons don't notice. Eg, those Muslim thugs that attacked the Police,well the protest crowd outside the Police Station in Rochdale, they had a loud speaker and told the Poice 'if we see the one Copper again,out on duty,we'll sort him'. No arrests. That wasn't the question. The internet says he is Rwandan in one breath and a Muslim in the other. This then dutifully posted up on here. Which one is he? |
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Post by Icegas on Jul 30, 2024 13:15:13 GMT
. This bit: Labour and Conservative are scared of them they bulls**t about them hoping Britons don't notice. Eg, those Muslim thugs that attacked the Police,well the protest crowd outside the Police Station in Rochdale, they had a loud speaker and told the Poice 'if we see the one Copper again,out on duty,we'll sort him'. No arrests. That wasn't the question. The internet says he is Rwandan in one breath and a Muslim in the other. This then dutifully posted up on here. Which one is he? How the hell do I know! 😂 What do you think.? |
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Post by Icegas on Jul 30, 2024 13:21:27 GMT
Both Labour and Conservative have blood on their hands. They are part of the problem. What? So now this horrific event is now a party political issue? Of course it is if this person is proven to be an immigrant and has been radicalized by religious conditioning. Its also their fault for not policing the streets correctly and coming down on knife crime even if the attacker was a white male. Its their fault for their political failings either way. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 13:22:34 GMT
That wasn't the question. The internet says he is Rwandan in one breath and a Muslim in the other. This then dutifully posted up on here. Which one is he? How the hell do I know! 😂 What do you think.? Precisely Only the police and his family know. So what value is there in spewing hate filled rhetoric predicated on those two presumptions? I will give you the answer NONE Let the police do their job and wait for the outcome |
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 13:24:12 GMT
What? So now this horrific event is now a party political issue? Of course it is if this person is proven to be an immigrant and has been radicalized by religious conditioning. Its also their fault for not policing the streets correctly and coming down on knife crime even if the attacker was a white male. Its their fault for their political failings either way. If if if. What constitutes "policing the streets correctly"? |
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