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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 7:38:46 GMT
I wonder why some would even bother to write that nonsense Baldrick, there appears to be a detachment from reality Wishful thinking? I had a friend who had a licence, the number of hoops he had to jump through and safety precautions needed were numerous. As soon as he started showing signs of depression it was taken away. Identical situation with my own brother |
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Post by baselswh on Jul 30, 2024 7:51:05 GMT
Let's hope Britons don't turn towards getting a gun to do the job our authorities should be doing.
Not forgetting the black market as a way of purchasing a gun.
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 30, 2024 7:54:09 GMT
Parents,children,Military Officers, women,you ,me etc. We're more or less on our own. The authorities do not protect us. When you leave your home to go about your daily life ,it's become a lottery whether you make it home safely. Don't make the mistake of thinking the current Government ( like the last ) will protect you.They won't. The trajectory our country is on is one of bloody violence. I never go out now without my pitchfork in order to fend off those dastardly women in Waitrose on a Wednesday afternoon. 😂😂😂 Some think your behind the times in your thinking..but 1685 is just tad out |
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 30, 2024 7:55:21 GMT
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Post by baldrick on Jul 30, 2024 7:55:46 GMT
Let's hope Britons don't turn towards getting a gun to do the job our authorities should be doing. Not forgetting the black market as a way of purchasing a gun. What is it they should be doing? |
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 8:00:13 GMT
I never go out now without my pitchfork in order to fend off those dastardly women in Waitrose on a Wednesday afternoon. 😂😂😂 Some think your behind the times in your thinking..but 1685 is just tad out 😂😂 Touche |
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Post by francegas on Jul 30, 2024 8:47:46 GMT
Under 18 years old so in theory won't be named. And Starmer wants to give 16yr olds the vote. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 8:58:05 GMT
Under 18 years old so in theory won't be named. And Starmer wants to give 16yr olds the vote. I think Labour put the brakes on this stupid idea after the recent EU elections across Europe. In many countries, the young vote went to the parties on the Right. The assumption that young voters would vote for the Left didn't quite ring true. This trend surprised many and in my opinion is why Labour dropped it as policy. If giving 16 year old's the right to vote was the right thing to do, then it should be done. However, it is obvious politicians see this policy just as a way to get more votes for themselves, so in reality, it is not the right thing to do is it ! |
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 30, 2024 9:24:32 GMT
And Starmer wants to give 16yr olds the vote. I think Labour put the brakes on this stupid idea after the recent EU elections across Europe. In many countries, the young vote went to the parties on the Right. The assumption that young voters would vote for the Left didn't quite ring true. This trend surprised many and in my opinion is why Labour dropped it as policy. If giving 16 year old's the right to vote was the right thing to do, then it should be done. However, it is obvious politicians see this policy just as a way to get more votes for themselves, so in reality, it is not the right thing to do is it ! When the LEGAL age of consent is 16, and some kids are not that mature to even have thoughts about any sort of sexual activities...the very idea that anyone should think about putting those same 'kids' on the electoral roll is just nuts |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 30, 2024 9:35:36 GMT
I never go out now without my pitchfork in order to fend off those dastardly women in Waitrose on a Wednesday afternoon. 😂😂😂 Some think your behind the times in your thinking..but 1685 is just tad out Its where Jacob Rees Mogg was intent on sending the country  |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 30, 2024 9:38:50 GMT
Indeed. This kind of thing can get dangerous when rumours of illegal asylum seekers being responsible for this tragic event spread across the internet. But to balance things out, what happens if it was done by a person with a migrant,or Islamic background even if he was born here? Will that be swept under the carpet and dismissed as normal? Just want balance. Then they should feel the same weight of the law as anyone else here. What if they are an second generation immigrant and Christian or atheist, would or should that make a difference? When faith has been an issue I have never heard of that being omitted from court cases. Otherwise how would you know about their faith in such cases and write about it on here? |
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 30, 2024 11:06:33 GMT
Teacher's bravery praised after deadly Southport dance class stabbing..by Sophie Abdulla and Francesca Gillett. ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/7/30/e288753c-1c39-4483-908a-2419b4a9711a.jpgThe BBC understands that the teacher running the Taylor Swift dance and yoga class that was attacked on Monday is Leanne Lucas, thought to be 35. Social media posts advertising the Southport children's holiday class name Lucas as the organiser. Since the attack, tributes on social media have poured in praising Lucas for her bravery. Her condition has not been confirmed by authorities. ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/7/30/e74d7f46-5ce0-4eb1-93fd-af828fb035c7.jpgTributes have poured in online for Leanne Lucas, the yoga teacher who the BBC understands was running the summer holiday dance and yoga class. "Your bravery has touched the heart of the nation, we are all praying for you and the families affected," one Instagram user says. "Thoughts and prayers are with you Leanne, keep fighting," another writes. Dozens of others also flooded the comment section of the Instagram page, offering their thoughts, prayers and love.
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 30, 2024 11:07:17 GMT
Taylor Swift says 'horror washing over me continuously'Taylor Swift has just released a tribute in a post on Instagram. "The horror of yesterday's attack in Southport is washing over me continuously and I'm just completely in shock," she writes. "The loss of life and innocence, and the horrendous trauma inflicted on everyone who was there, the families and first responders. "These were just little kids at a dance class. I am at a complete loss for how to ever convey my sympathies to these families." ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/7/30/4377c842-8738-445d-b496-f484b12466c9.jpg
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 30, 2024 11:09:06 GMT
Suspect was born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents
The BBC reports that the 17-year-old currently being questioned by the police in connection with the attack in Southport was born in Cardiff and moved to the Southport area in 2013.
His parents are from Rwanda and he has an older brother who was also born in Cardiff.
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 30, 2024 11:11:41 GMT
BREAKING: Southport stabbing: Girl, 9, becomes third child to die after attack at Taylor Swift class
More now from Merseyside Police, who say the two victims who died in the attack yesterday were girls aged six and seven.
A third girl, aged nine, died from her injuries in the early hours of this morning, police added - as we've just reported.
Eight other children were stabbed in the attack, police said.
Five of the children and two adults remain in a critical condition.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 30, 2024 11:13:38 GMT
BREAKING: Southport stabbing: Girl, 9, becomes third child to die after attack at Taylor Swift class More now from Merseyside Police, who say the two victims who died in the attack yesterday were girls aged six and seven. A third girl, aged nine, died from her injuries in the early hours of this morning, police added - as we've just reported. Eight other children were stabbed in the attack, police said. Five of the children and two adults remain in a critical condition. God bless them. |
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 30, 2024 11:17:38 GMT
Third girl dies after mass stabbing in Southport - full statement from police
A spokesperson from Merseyside said: "Sadly we can confirm that a third child has passed away as a result of injuries sustained in a knife attack in Southport yesterday morning, Monday 29 July. "The nine-year-old girl died in hospital in the early hours of this morning, Tuesday, 30 July. We can confirm that the children who died yesterday were girls aged six and seven years. "Eight other children suffered stab wounds sustained during the attack, and five of them are in a critical condition. Two adults are also in a critical condition after being injured during the incident. "Our specialist Family Liaison Officers are providing support to the families at this terrible time. Yesterday, officers arrested a 17-year-old male from Banks and he remains in police custody. "A name has been shared on social media in connection with the suspect in the incident in Southport. This name is incorrect and we would urge people not to speculate on details of the incident while the investigation is ongoing. This incident is not currently being treated as terror-related and we are not looking for anyone else in connection with it. "Anyone who witnessed anything, or who has information that could help our investigation can call Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111. "Victim Care officers will be at the Community Support Centre set up at Southport FC from 10am-6pm today to support those affected. "Anyone who has been affected by this incident, can contact our Victim Care Merseyside service for help and support. Our hub of local, trained staff is here to provide free, emotional and practical support tailored to your needs. i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article33355624.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/0_Southport-incident.jpg
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 30, 2024 11:20:20 GMT
Unverified rumours about the attack circulate online..By Shayan Sardarizadeh
Almost immediately after the deadly stabbing attack in Southport, baseless rumours began spreading online.
While police and emergency services were still responding to the attack, a widely shared LinkedIn post claimed without evidence that "a migrant" was responsible.
But the most viral source of rumours so far has been a report published on an obscure US-based website which claims to cover "breaking news".
The report falsely claims that that the 17-year old suspect is an "asylum seeker" named "Ali Al-Shakati", who "arrived in the UK by boat last year".
Merseyside Police has confirmed that the suspect was born in Cardiff, and has yet to identify the 17-year-old.
The report also adds that the suspect was "on the MI6 watch list", despite the fact that it is MI5, not MI6, that deals with domestic counter-terrorism cases.
The name "Ali Al-Shakati" has since been widely shared online in posts viewed by millions.
Some other outlets, including Russia's RT news channel, have also reported this name, citing the US-based website.
Other variations of the report, including the claim that the suspect was a "Channel migrant", have also been widely circulated.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 30, 2024 11:24:33 GMT
Unverified rumours about the attack circulate online..By Shayan SardarizadehAlmost immediately after the deadly stabbing attack in Southport, baseless rumours began spreading online. While police and emergency services were still responding to the attack, a widely shared LinkedIn post claimed without evidence that "a migrant" was responsible. But the most viral source of rumours so far has been a report published on an obscure US-based website which claims to cover "breaking news". The report falsely claims that that the 17-year old suspect is an "asylum seeker" named "Ali Al-Shakati", who "arrived in the UK by boat last year". Merseyside Police has confirmed that the suspect was born in Cardiff, and has yet to identify the 17-year-old. The report also adds that the suspect was "on the MI6 watch list", despite the fact that it is MI5, not MI6, that deals with domestic counter-terrorism cases. The name "Ali Al-Shakati" has since been widely shared online in posts viewed by millions. Some other outlets, including Russia's RT news channel, have also reported this name, citing the US-based website. Other variations of the report, including the claim that the suspect was a "Channel migrant", have also been widely circulated. The name will soon be known,no way of keeping it from the people of Southport and Liverpool. Then we,'ll all know. Maybe "Ali Al Shakati" is the one. It's a foreign Muslim name that fits this kind of crime. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 11:44:11 GMT
I can reliably report that the perpetrators name was Frankie Jones, born in Cardiff of Welsh mining stock, originally from Ebbw Vale.
This information is freely available on a YouTube channel...
I thought I would post up complete BS from a viewpoint as a counter to the complete BS already posted on here.
The usual suspects really need to get a grip
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