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Post by baldrick on Jul 29, 2024 20:51:05 GMT
Anyone want to argue for banning 'stop and search'? Anyone fancy singing "Don't Look Back In Anger"? No argument from me, we can discuss the nuances of how and who but a very important tool for the police.
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 29, 2024 21:06:05 GMT
That's sorted the rumour,we now hope he feels the full force of the law,and never see's the green grass to walk on ... Ever again
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 29, 2024 21:08:15 GMT
Rumours via "X" that the accused is an asylum seeker...... I've read the same, apparently here only a few months and was an unvetted from a boat. I'm sorry I'm going to reframe from saying too my as my blood is boiling over this and don't want to say something I will regret. I'm afraid you've been had by an American right wing post, talking about MI6 who wouldn't be involved. Police say - "A 17-year-old male from Banks in Lancashire, who was born in Cardiff, has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder and has been taken to a police station where he will be interviewed by detectives..."
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Post by baldrick on Jul 29, 2024 21:27:36 GMT
I've read the same, apparently here only a few months and was an unvetted from a boat. I'm sorry I'm going to reframe from saying too my as my blood is boiling over this and don't want to say something I will regret. I'm afraid you've been had by an American right wing post, talking about MI6 who wouldn't be involved. Police say - "A 17-year-old male from Banks in Lancashire, who was born in Cardiff, has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder and has been taken to a police station where he will be interviewed by detectives..." Sometimes a lot can be said for "MSM" rather than other sources. AI algorithms aren't always the best in these situations.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 29, 2024 21:35:46 GMT
I've read the same, apparently here only a few months and was an unvetted from a boat. I'm sorry I'm going to reframe from saying too my as my blood is boiling over this and don't want to say something I will regret. I'm afraid you've been had by an American right wing post, talking about MI6 who wouldn't be involved. Police say - "A 17-year-old male from Banks in Lancashire, who was born in Cardiff, has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder and has been taken to a police station where he will be interviewed by detectives..." We will have to wait until the full facts are out, but just because they say that he may have been born in Cardiff doesn't mean that this is not an Islamist attack, as there is a trend of this happening in that culture whether people want to admit it or not, and not only here, but around Europe. When was the last major terrorist attack that happened in this country over the past 20 years that didn't desend from Islamic upbringing or a migrant background? I can only think of one,the Finsbury Park attack done by Wacko Darren Osbourne.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 29, 2024 21:41:33 GMT
I'm afraid you've been had by an American right wing post, talking about MI6 who wouldn't be involved. Police say - "A 17-year-old male from Banks in Lancashire, who was born in Cardiff, has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder and has been taken to a police station where he will be interviewed by detectives..." We will have to wait until the full facts are out, but just because they say that he may have been born in Cardiff doesn't mean that this is not an Islamist attack, as there is a trend of this happening in that culture whether people want to admit it or not, and not only here, but around Europe. When was the last major terrorist attack that happened in this country over the past 20 years that didn't desend from Islamic upbringing or a migrant background? I can only think of one,the Finsbury Park attack done by Wacko Darren Osbourne. But that's not what has been happening as has been shown on here. People were ready to jump immediately that it must be an immigrant, especially an asylum seeker. It may be a terror attack but as you say let's wait until we hear the full facts.
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Post by aghast on Jul 29, 2024 21:45:55 GMT
We will have to wait until the full facts are out, but just because they say that he may have been born in Cardiff doesn't mean that this is not an Islamist attack, as there is a trend of this happening in that culture whether people want to admit it or not, and not only here, but around Europe. When was the last major terrorist attack that happened in this country over the past 20 years that didn't desend from Islamic upbringing or a migrant background? I can only think of one,the Finsbury Park attack done by Wacko Darren Osbourne. But that's not what has been happening as has been shown on here. People were ready to jump immediately that it must be an immigrant, especially an asylum seeker. It may be a terror attack but as you say let's wait until we hear the full facts. Indeed. This kind of thing can get dangerous when rumours of illegal asylum seekers being responsible for this tragic event spread across the internet.
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 29, 2024 22:05:18 GMT
Two children dead and nine injured in dance workshop stabbing..by Gemma Sherlock & Monica Rimmer, BBC News, Merseyside.i2-prod.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/article29638082.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/0_multiple-people-stabbed-in-southport.jpgTwo children have died and nine were injured, six of them critically, in a "ferocious" knife attack at a children's dance workshop. Two adults are also in a critical condition after being stabbed as they tried to protect children at the Taylor Swift-themed event on Hart Street in Southport, Merseyside Police said. A 17-year-old boy, from Banks in Lancashire, has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder. Police said the motivation for the attack was "unclear" but it was not being treated as terror-related.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 29, 2024 23:23:42 GMT
But that's not what has been happening as has been shown on here. People were ready to jump immediately that it must be an immigrant, especially an asylum seeker. It may be a terror attack but as you say let's wait until we hear the full facts. Indeed. This kind of thing can get dangerous when rumours of illegal asylum seekers being responsible for this tragic event spread across the internet. But to balance things out, what happens if it was done by a person with a migrant,or Islamic background even if he was born here? Will that be swept under the carpet and dismissed as normal? Just want balance.
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Post by baldrick on Jul 29, 2024 23:49:34 GMT
Indeed. This kind of thing can get dangerous when rumours of illegal asylum seekers being responsible for this tragic event spread across the internet. But to balance things out, what happens if it was done by a person with a migrant,or Islamic background even if he was born here? Will that be swept under the carpet and dismissed as normal? Just want balance. In an earlier post you said "my blood is boiling over this and don't want to say something I will regret." Imagine others with darker thoughts, things could easily get out of control. The best thing is to wait for the facts to come out rather than rely on heresay and Internet speculation.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 30, 2024 5:19:55 GMT
Parents,children,Military Officers, women,you ,me etc.
We're more or less on our own. The authorities do not protect us.
When you leave your home to go about your daily life ,it's become a lottery whether you make it home safely.
Don't make the mistake of thinking the current Government ( like the last ) will protect you.They won't.
The trajectory our country is on is one of bloody violence.
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 6:16:37 GMT
I've read the same,apparently here only a few months and was an unvetted from a boat. I'm sorry I'm going to reframe from saying too my as my blood is boiling over this and don't want to say something I will regret. But if this does comes out that it was a illegal immigrant,then we need actions by our government immediately in terms of removing theses people. People like me are not racist for wanting to stop immigration,as we see this stuff happening, as this is what these illegals are bringing to us! Its simple. I'm sorry hollow words by the prime minister or the King don't cut it. I'm worried that if this continues, which it will!! that there is going to be real civil unrest/ race wars, that could lead to a civil war. Originally from Cardiff according to the police, Sky News reporting him as being born in Cardiff. As with several other threads, maybe we should wait and see before speculating. Thank god we have someone on here quoting the facts, as known. Rather than the "lynch mob" mentality expressed by some.
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 6:22:35 GMT
Parents,children,Military Officers, women,you ,me etc. We're more or less on our own. The authorities do not protect us. When you leave your home to go about your daily life ,it's become a lottery whether you make it home safely. Don't make the mistake of thinking the current Government ( like the last ) will protect you.They won't. The trajectory our country is on is one of bloody violence. I never go out now without my pitchfork in order to fend off those dastardly women in Waitrose on a Wednesday afternoon. 😂😂😂
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Post by baldrick on Jul 30, 2024 6:36:52 GMT
Parents,children,Military Officers, women,you ,me etc. We're more or less on our own. The authorities do not protect us. When you leave your home to go about your daily life ,it's become a lottery whether you make it home safely. Don't make the mistake of thinking the current Government ( like the last ) will protect you.They won't. The trajectory our country is on is one of bloody violence. Bearing in mind we know very little, if anything, about the motive, what possible precautions could anyone do here? What could any government or authority do?
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Post by baselswh on Jul 30, 2024 6:37:18 GMT
Parents,children,Military Officers, women,you ,me etc. We're more or less on our own. The authorities do not protect us. When you leave your home to go about your daily life ,it's become a lottery whether you make it home safely. Don't make the mistake of thinking the current Government ( like the last ) will protect you.They won't. The trajectory our country is on is one of bloody violence. I never go out now without my pitchfork in order to fend off those dastardly women in Waitrose on a Wednesday afternoon. 😂😂😂 Well stop shuffling around the Ladies Underlinen Aisle.
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 6:39:40 GMT
Parents,children,Military Officers, women,you ,me etc. We're more or less on our own. The authorities do not protect us. When you leave your home to go about your daily life ,it's become a lottery whether you make it home safely. Don't make the mistake of thinking the current Government ( like the last ) will protect you.They won't. The trajectory our country is on is one of bloody violence. Bearing in mind we know very little, if anything, about the motive, what possible precautions could anyone do here? What could any government or authority do? Arm everyone and shoot anyone we deem suspicious? Anyone with non white skin for example? Or me? Basel called me a traitor the other day
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Post by baselswh on Jul 30, 2024 7:05:59 GMT
Bearing in mind we know very little, if anything, about the motive, what possible precautions could anyone do here? What could any government or authority do? Arm everyone and shoot anyone we deem suspicious? Anyone with non white skin for example? Or me? Basel called me a traitor the other day You're first up against the wall. I don't want to see Btitons arm themselves, but if the authorities continue the way they have done for years,well,I can see a lot of people joining the local gun club.For a bit of 'fun',a 'hobby' you understand.
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Post by baldrick on Jul 30, 2024 7:13:51 GMT
Arm everyone and shoot anyone we deem suspicious? Anyone with non white skin for example? Or me? Basel called me a traitor the other day You're first up against the wall. I don't want to see Btitons arm themselves, but if the authorities continue the way they have done for years,well,I can see a lot of people joining the local gun club.For a bit of 'fun',a 'hobby' you understand. Gun ownership rules are pretty tight in this country, not sure we'll see people walking down the street with a shotgun in hand.
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 7:29:41 GMT
You're first up against the wall. I don't want to see Btitons arm themselves, but if the authorities continue the way they have done for years,well,I can see a lot of people joining the local gun club.For a bit of 'fun',a 'hobby' you understand. Gun ownership rules are pretty tight in this country, not sure we'll see people walking down the street with a shotgun in hand. I wonder why some would even bother to write that nonsense Baldrick, there appears to be a detachment from reality
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Post by baldrick on Jul 30, 2024 7:34:27 GMT
Gun ownership rules are pretty tight in this country, not sure we'll see people walking down the street with a shotgun in hand. I wonder why some would even bother to write that nonsense Baldrick, there appears to be a detachment from reality Wishful thinking? I had a friend who had a licence, the number of hoops he had to jump through and safety precautions needed were numerous. As soon as he started showing signs of depression it was taken away.
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