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No need to punish the child, makes sense under the circumstances.

He is right Ice.
If we are going to have a meaningful conversation about immigration, and I actually agree with you, we need one, it cannot be against a backdrop of violent rioting and looting.
Nor a backdrop of false information.
We desperately need a conversation

Obviously I don't agree.
He is not calling me racist for suggesting we must have a conversation about immigration.
He is calling out rioters and those that enabled them.
But that's done.

What's the conversation we should be having, do you think?

I havent got much time for Tommy Robinson but time and time again you seek to blame him (and I believe that he was out of the country ?) and a few others for causing the riots.
Yet again...there was always going to be trouble the night of the Southport murders the rest of the riots were just copycats,this has happened before.
Just look at the pictures of the people being taken to court its old pi$$heads and young chavs....

I know that you dont live in Bristol but it was obvious on that saturday who was going to go to Castle Green for a ruck as soon as the counter protest was arranged particularly on that day...these people might have heard of Tommy Robinson but they certainly wouldnt take any notice of anything he said,they were there for a fight and thats what happened.
I only had to look at the pictures to know who they were and its been confirmed in 3 conversations with different people in the last week....I doubt that its any different anywhere else looking at the pictures from the various riots.
I know that you and a few others are trying to gain political points out of all of this but its just ridiculous and tbh boring now

Personally, I think he is calling anyone that thinks that there is an immigration problem a racist.

His words over the past month has suggest that, as has his Labour party's use of language for many years also.

You Oldie, have stated clearly that there is a problem, along with a conversation that needs to be had about immigration, and your are completely right.

But you may not feel that he is including you in his words recently, but in my opinion he does include you, due to the fact that you want to have a discussion about immigration, even if you are not offended by his words.

Now to your question... and it's a multi layered question, so not a very simple one to answer.

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Immigration has added around 7-10 million to the UK population in the last two decades.Mass immigration places mounting pressure on our already-overstretched public services. There were nearly 700,000 new GP registrations by migrants alone in 2020 if you google it.

My sister has learning difficulties, and many health issues, including the removal of both her spleen, and bladder over recent years.

Her PIP allowance has been drastically cut back due to financial cuts backs, and this has resulted in myself paying nearly £24k our of my own pocket over the last decade, in order to pay for personal health care at times.This was when she needed a 24hr carer for her epilepsy.She used to go into status seizures between 2013-2017.

I have been told by local authorities that this is due to our system not being able to cope.Ive questioned them,and they admitted immigration has played a factor.

Our health systems, our schools, and public transportation are not build for this mass explosion of our population growth.And mass immigration has clearly worsened the housing crisis.

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I know many of you on here believe that I'm far- right..or a racist, due to my views.

Honestly its a shame that you feel that way, as it's not true, but we have had this conversation so there is no point going over old ground.

Myself personally, I'm concerned about the way in which immigration is leading to rapid cultural and societal change.

It's the scale of immigration over the past 20 years that is unprecedented in our history that worries me.

The UK has always experienced periods of immigration, but never like we have witnessed over the past two decades or so.

I live in Kingswood, and I honestly feel like a foreigner at times while in our City, and also when traveling to other parts of the UK, due to the drastic change.

I'm not anti Muslims, however I am anti Islam.As in my view there is no benefit to the islamic scriptures in our country, as they have completely failed to work thus far, and I believe that they will never work in a western country given their history.

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I believe the drawbridge has to pulled up on immigration to this country immediately.

Legalized immigration is a far bigger problem for the UK then illegal immigration is, due to the pure number entering our country. It's out of control.

But the first port of call has to be to stop the boats, of unvetted, illegal criminals entering our country daily.

We are called a country for a reason, and we have boarder's also for a reason.

If we are letting anyone into the country just because they claim themselves as a victim,then why have any 'boarders at all..?

'Shock & despair' - how Southport FC helped a town in mourning..by Neil Johnston, BBC Sport journalist.

On 29th July, Bebe King, six, and Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, were killed in a knife attack as they attended a Taylor Swift-themed dance class.

Alice da Silva Aguiar, nine, died from her injuries in hospital the following day, while eight other girls and two adults were injured.

The attack in the quiet seaside town in the north-west of England happened less than a mile from Southport Football Club.

They opened the doors to their Big Help Stadium ground to provide a safe and supportive space for those affected by the horror.

All the details at the link below:

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn87jng3427o

What a load of rubbish Chesh.

Millions of Britons see their country and our Union of countries with a great fondness.
It means a togetherness of shared good and bad times,experiences that make it what it is,or perhaps these days,could be.

It took centuries to get where we are today.



Any particular part of history Britons should take a look at?

Man jailed for threatening police at Rotherham asylum seeker hotel..by Victoria Scheer, Reporting from Sheffield Crown Court

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A man who threatened violence and cheered as missiles were thrown at police who were trying to protect a hotel that housed asylum seekers has been jailed.

Lee Crisp “actively encouraged” rioters who had gathered outside the Holiday Inn Express in Manvers, Rotherham, on 4th August.

The 42-year-old factory worker told officers they should be “ashamed of themselves”, shouted “let’s go toe to toe” and made racist comments.

At Sheffield Crown Court on Tuesday, Crisp, of Mount Road, Grimethorpe, pleaded guilty to violent disorder and was sentenced to three years and four months imprisonment.

He was also made subject of a criminal behaviour order for 10 years.

Passing the sentence, the Recorder of Sheffield, Judge Jeremy Richardson KC, told Crisp his behaviour had been “truly dreadful”.

During his first appearance at Sheffield Magistrates’ Court, Crisp had claimed he accidentally got caught up in the riot when taking his mother for Sunday lunch.