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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2022 15:49:03 GMT
Posted because it suits the narrative of some Rover's fans. When JB was manager of Fleetwood did you consider him to be the victim of a savage and underprivileged childhood who should not be blamed for his continuous acts of physical and verbal violence towards others ? And at that time did you think he was a great student of the game who enlightened fans with his tremendous knowledge and who’s teams played an exciting brand of football. Or was your opinion the same as 99% of Gasheads . . . at that time ? I never really gave him a thought. I was responding to posts calling us a team of thugs because of the manager, which is totally wrong. When Fleetwood stuffed us at home under Garner i don't recall thinking they were a dirty team of thugs either. |
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Post by darloGAS on Aug 22, 2022 17:09:28 GMT
Some interesting comments on the BBC HYS: "Barton turned Fleetwood into a team of thugs that kicked their way around the pitch and he's bang on schedule doing the same thing at rovers. It's a shame because they always bring a good crowd to Fratton and their fans deserve better". "I think Bristol Rovers and football in general would be better off without the likes of Joey Barton. From what I've read it seems like he has been given plenty of opportunities to learn from his mistakes but hasn't". "Barton needs to be gone! He's just a violent thug". "The team is a reflection of the manager. If the manager condones violence that's what his players provide". "Another excellent team effort (Portsmouth), a good 3 points against a bunch of thugs who want to kick their way to a win". "A superb game ruined by the thuggish behaviour of Barton's team. But what else should we expect from a thug". No idea what HYS is. I'm amazed that any of them saw the game, writing rubbish like that, they are obviously judging on the amount of, non-deserved, free kicks that the inept referee gave them. " - BBC "...key stories in the news..." 🤣🤣 . . .
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Post by bloogas on Aug 22, 2022 18:09:51 GMT
Posted because it suits the narrative of some Rover's fans. When JB was manager of Fleetwood did you consider him to be the victim of a savage and underprivileged childhood who should not be blamed for his continuous acts of physical and verbal violence towards others ? And at that time did you think he was a great student of the game who enlightened fans with his tremendous knowledge and who’s teams played an exciting brand of football. Or was your opinion the same as 99% of Gasheads . . . at that time ? My old dad used to quote an old farmer friend he knew - "don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you hear." I wouldn't believe journalists - I've had some experience of them and seen how they distort and manipulate a story. I never thought about JB much - I have a lot of other interests and I'm not obsessed with football. I hated it when he and Fleetwood played us as they showed rather more aggression, commitment and effort than we usually did and I used to wish we played a bit like it. I didn't ponder on whether he was a great student of the game or not, but I've been surprised at the way Rovers have played under him. You know, not the "pump balls into the Incredible Hulk in the box." Dare I say we've got quite a bit of guile these days. I wouldn't know about 99% of other Gasheads. Sorry if those are not the right answers, but there you are. |
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Post by alftupper on Aug 22, 2022 18:11:11 GMT
Yes, I think 99% is a fair estimate Bas. JB falls into a similar category to Steve Evans and perhaps even Neil Warnock in that if they are not managing “ your” club then a huge percentage dislike them intensely. I never doubt your sincerity Bas but there is such great hypocrisy over this issue as I think Holmes highlighted in the early days when he found posts from Rovers fans made when JB was appointed at Fleetwood. There is nothing wrong with someone changing their mind about JB but IMO there is an awful lot wrong with haranguing anyone who chooses not to change their mind and accusing them of being disloyal to Rovers. Our loyalty to Rovers remains whoever is the manager or the owner. I must be in the 1% then Swiss because I never use to give JB a thought. Agree absolutely, Bas. We`re football supporters, not the Fabian Society. I laughed my bollox off, when we got a last gasp winner against his team, and he got sent off. Then I forgot about him again. Just about everybody I know, is a football fan. Friends, family, workmates etc. Nobody has ever said to me, "Bristol Rovers, you`re manged by that thug, Barton, aren`t you?" Nobody.
If previous supporters of our club would prefer to sit in front of the tv on a Saturday afternoon, watching Baking On Ice, rather than doing their best to lift the team, that`s fine by me too. Takes all sorts.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 22, 2022 18:56:42 GMT
Some interesting comments on the BBC HYS: "Barton turned Fleetwood into a team of thugs that kicked their way around the pitch and he's bang on schedule doing the same thing at rovers. It's a shame because they always bring a good crowd to Fratton and their fans deserve better". "I think Bristol Rovers and football in general would be better off without the likes of Joey Barton. From what I've read it seems like he has been given plenty of opportunities to learn from his mistakes but hasn't". "Barton needs to be gone! He's just a violent thug". "The team is a reflection of the manager. If the manager condones violence that's what his players provide". "Another excellent team effort (Portsmouth), a good 3 points against a bunch of thugs who want to kick their way to a win". "A superb game ruined by the thuggish behaviour of Barton's team. But what else should we expect from a thug". The last 3 comments are completely rubbish. It’s a reaction to their player getting a broken leg. I’m not the greatest fan of JB the man but as a manager he sends out a combative team who competes. It’s always a bad day when a player gets injured badly but GW was unlucky to get booked imo. But whatever, it’s not something anyone wants to see at a football match. I hope he recovers and plays the back end of this season. Good luck to him. But to say we provide violence, or we are a bunch of thugs or we showed thuggish behaviour is totally OTT. What they’ve done is put JB together with a broken leg and come up with the wrong answer. Pompey were just as combative and showed plenty of the professional behaviours that they say they don’t like. Unfortunately, opposing fans (just as we would were we in their position) see JB and his reputation and have already decided on what kind of team we are. Nothing we say will change that. Watching the match on Saturday the more worrying aspect is that the referee may have concluded the same thing. UTG! |
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Post by Bamber Gashead on Aug 22, 2022 22:35:24 GMT
Some interesting comments on the BBC HYS: "Barton turned Fleetwood into a team of thugs that kicked their way around the pitch and he's bang on schedule doing the same thing at rovers. It's a shame because they always bring a good crowd to Fratton and their fans deserve better". "I think Bristol Rovers and football in general would be better off without the likes of Joey Barton. From what I've read it seems like he has been given plenty of opportunities to learn from his mistakes but hasn't". "Barton needs to be gone! He's just a violent thug". "The team is a reflection of the manager. If the manager condones violence that's what his players provide". "Another excellent team effort (Portsmouth), a good 3 points against a bunch of thugs who want to kick their way to a win". "A superb game ruined by the thuggish behaviour of Barton's team. But what else should we expect from a thug". Just goes to show how we are perceived by some other fans now because of our manager. And how it influences referees. We cannot say we weren't warned. Add that to the growing list of crowd infringements and it all becomes toxic. Pompey gave as good as they got on Saturday, but they got away with it for the most part, yet we were made out to be the villains. |
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Post by gasprom on Aug 22, 2022 23:21:25 GMT
When Portsmouth agreed with creditors to wipe out 80% of their debts, here are some of the organisations who lost out
“Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.”
So I won’t take much notice of what a Portsmouth fan thinks of how we run our club.
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Post by Bath Gas on Aug 23, 2022 3:28:41 GMT
Some interesting comments on the BBC HYS: "Barton turned Fleetwood into a team of thugs that kicked their way around the pitch and he's bang on schedule doing the same thing at rovers. It's a shame because they always bring a good crowd to Fratton and their fans deserve better". "I think Bristol Rovers and football in general would be better off without the likes of Joey Barton. From what I've read it seems like he has been given plenty of opportunities to learn from his mistakes but hasn't". "Barton needs to be gone! He's just a violent thug". "The team is a reflection of the manager. If the manager condones violence that's what his players provide". "Another excellent team effort (Portsmouth), a good 3 points against a bunch of thugs who want to kick their way to a win". "A superb game ruined by the thuggish behaviour of Barton's team. But what else should we expect from a thug". Just goes to show how we are perceived by some other fans now because of our manager. And how it influences referees. We cannot say we weren't warned. Add that to the growing list of crowd infringements and it all becomes toxic. Pompey gave as good as they got on Saturday, but they got away with it for the most part, yet we were made out to be the villains. A lot of Rovers fans were not impressed by the way the Cowleys behaved, trying to get Whelan sent off. When I’ve met fans of other clubs recently, they usually want to talk about out final game of last season, and acknowledge that Barton has got Rovers playing some nice football - not everybody lives in the past. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 23, 2022 10:24:05 GMT
When JB was manager of Fleetwood did you consider him to be the victim of a savage and underprivileged childhood who should not be blamed for his continuous acts of physical and verbal violence towards others ? And at that time did you think he was a great student of the game who enlightened fans with his tremendous knowledge and who’s teams played an exciting brand of football. Or was your opinion the same as 99% of Gasheads . . . at that time ? "99%" Swiss? 🙂 Even ITB got caught out , when someone trawled through old posts and re-posted one where he used some choice words about him. Let’s be honest, most of football dislike or hate him but such is the nature, and fickleness, at football that some good results and we have a new messiah. The reverse can happen too as all it will take is a bad run and us hanging around the lower part of the league and you will find many that will be calling for action. It’s just how it is at football and i mean everywhere. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 23, 2022 10:29:54 GMT
No idea what HYS is. I'm amazed that any of them saw the game, writing rubbish like that, they are obviously judging on the amount of, non-deserved, free kicks that the inept referee gave them. " - BBC "...key stories in the news..." 🤣🤣 . . .
A third division footballer commits a foul. Hold the front page!
Now it has been said that it’s a double leg break so i guess that is newsworthy. I feel very sorry for the player and anyone who gets injured. I have never heard of a tackle that ended up with a double leg break though, not sure if that means two breaks of one leg or both legs, anyone know more, please ? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 10:37:15 GMT
"This is 'Have Your Say' from BBC News, where we offer you a platform to debate key stories in the news." - BBC "...key stories in the news..." 🤣🤣 . . .
A third division footballer commits a foul. Hold the front page!
Now it has been said that it’s a double leg break so i guess that is newsworthy. I feel very sorry for the player and anyone who gets injured. I have never heard of a tackle that ended up with a double leg break though, not sure if that means two breaks of one leg or both legs, anyone know more, please ? Yep. Me. 2003, accidental challenge on me in a works 5 a side tournament. Quadruple break of Tib and Fib. Two operations and an Ikyzarov cage for 5 months. 6 months off work. Have had better years. 😁 |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 23, 2022 10:39:48 GMT
Now it has been said that it’s a double leg break so i guess that is newsworthy. I feel very sorry for the player and anyone who gets injured. I have never heard of a tackle that ended up with a double leg break though, not sure if that means two breaks of one leg or both legs, anyone know more, please ? Yep. Me. 2003, accidental challenge on me in a works 5 a side tournament. Quadruple break of Tib and Fib. Two operations and an Ikyzarov cage for 5 months. 6 months off work. Have had better years. 😁 Bloody hell, that sounds horrendous. The worst i had was two breaks in my left wrist, when coming off of a motorbike. The thumb was the second break. Do you experience pain in the leg now as i have some pretty bad time with the wrist, no laughing at the back 😂. Thanks for the explanation |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 10:46:14 GMT
Ilyzarov sorry.
Arthritis mainly, but that's been greatly eased by me taking up swimming properly again 3 years ago and by taking Turmeric tablets.
Anyway, Glenn Whelan wouldn't have deliberately challenged the lad with the intention of hurting him. He's never been that way and no reason why he would be now.
Get fit soon Pompey lad.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 23, 2022 10:59:32 GMT
My late father told me how he accidentally broke an opposition players leg in one game.
He said it upset him and put him off playing for while.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 23, 2022 11:03:50 GMT
Ilyzarov sorry. Arthritis mainly, but that's been greatly eased by me taking up swimming properly again 3 years ago and by taking Turmeric tablets. Anyway, Glenn Whelan wouldn't have deliberately challenged the lad with the intention of hurting him. He's never been that way and no reason why he would be now. Get fit soon Pompey lad. Agreed, no way would he have done that on purpose and it’s part and parcel of the game. I have thought about turmeric and now you have given me the final push and i will order some in a moment as i have heard other people say that it’s excellent for inflammation. I first looked at it when trying alternatives for the crohn’s but jus never got around to trying it. Thanks |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 23, 2022 11:16:23 GMT
My late father told me how he accidentally broke an opposition players leg in one game. He said it upset him and put him off playing for while. I think it would upset any decent person. I am guessing that, given this os tier 3, he would not have enough money to get through his life and i hope it’s not as bad as some are saying. Seems a few of their lot are saying it was on purpose. Whelans record suggests otherwise |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 23, 2022 11:19:08 GMT
My late father told me how he accidentally broke an opposition players leg in one game. He said it upset him and put him off playing for while. I think it would upset any decent person. I am guessing that, given this os tier 3, he would not have enough money to get through his life and i hope it’s not as bad as some are saying. Seems a few of their lot are saying it was on purpose. Whelans record suggests otherwise I've seen a film of it and I think it an accident. |
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 23, 2022 14:00:22 GMT
I think it would upset any decent person. I am guessing that, given this os tier 3, he would not have enough money to get through his life and i hope it’s not as bad as some are saying. Seems a few of their lot are saying it was on purpose. Whelans record suggests otherwise I've seen a film of it and I think it an accident. Reference a certain Roy Keane and that in-famous tackle on alf-inge haaland in the Manchester derby in April 2001, it all but ended his playing career. Haaland said: "I'm only glad my leg was off the ground, otherwise he would have done me a lot of damage". Keane was subsequently fined £5,000 and received a three-match ban. In his autobiography, published a year later, Keane stated that the tackle was a pre-meditated, deliberate act of vengeance against Haaland for the on-field criticism he received from him three and a half years previously. After this revelation, Keane found himself subject to an FA inquiry. He claimed inaccurate paraphrasing by his ghostwriter, but received an additional five-game ban and a £150,000 fine for bringing the sport into disrepute |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 23, 2022 14:19:11 GMT
I think it would upset any decent person. I am guessing that, given this os tier 3, he would not have enough money to get through his life and i hope it’s not as bad as some are saying. Seems a few of their lot are saying it was on purpose. Whelans record suggests otherwise I've seen a film of it and I think it an accident. That looks fairly obvious to me and pointless too as it was going out of play. I do think Whelan had to get a yellow but no way did he wish to cause harm, as some of the Pompey lot are intimating at, they also say that JB clapped at the time. I watched on TV but i had no camera angle of our manager. People see what they want to see. Nothing will stop that |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 23, 2022 14:21:21 GMT
I've seen a film of it and I think it an accident. Reference a certain Roy Keane and that in-famous tackle on alf-inge haaland in the Manchester derby in April 2001, it all but ended his playing career. Haaland said: "I'm only glad my leg was off the ground, otherwise he would have done me a lot of damage". Keane was subsequently fined £5,000 and received a three-match ban. In his autobiography, published a year later, Keane stated that the tackle was a pre-meditated, deliberate act of vengeance against Haaland for the on-field criticism he received from him three and a half years previously. After this revelation, Keane found himself subject to an FA inquiry. He claimed inaccurate paraphrasing by his ghostwriter, but received an additional five-game ban and a £150,000 fine for bringing the sport into disrepute If that is the case and i have no reason to dispute it then i think Haaland should have pursued that further. Keane was/is a vengeful man and he comes across are very dark and brooding |
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