kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 20, 2022 21:38:15 GMT
Cowley: "Glenn Whelan is an excellent professional and I don't think for one minute he meant to do it". Fair play and hopefully Thompson is back as soon as possible. From what i have sen on Twitter and Instagram , after the game, it is the 82’s fans who are saying B***** clapped when the incident happened. Maybe this is where some are being a bit daft but i cannot be sure. I know i am replying to the wrong post but i CBA to start again 🤪. Seems their obsession has no end.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 20, 2022 21:39:12 GMT
Just got back and haven’t read the thread but FWIW: We were better in the second half and our first half was better tha Barnsley so we are improving. I understand why Harry A was rested but he was missed and our full backs provided little threat attacking wise though they did alright defensively. Playing Coutts, Whelan, Rossiter and Finley meant that we were more solid and kept Pompey at a distance but Evans has still to click. Collin sure was good in the second half and stretched Pompey defenders all the time. Marquis never stopped running but apart from the assist nothing stuck to him and our midfield was always under pressure. Connolly played well but I thought Gibson, although he did nothing wrong he was caught in possession a lot of the time and was out-muscled by some of their players. I hope he will learn. I think you have to give credit to Pompey, they played well, were always looking to attack and deserved the win. I don’t know what’s been said about our pen that wasn’t given but I was sat in the front row of the North Stand (the side where Collins was brought down) and sat level with the 18 yard line. I think I was probably as close as anyone was to that incident. It was a clear penalty. Collins has beaten the defender and he just took his leg. A clear penalty and the referee should have given it although I can’t remember where he was, behind or unsighted. Had the Lino been on my side I’m sure he would have flagged for it. Hard to take esp as they then go up the other end and get a pen. I’ll look forward to hearing JBs post match views, I can guess already what he’ll say!! Plus points were that we really competed and Pompey knew they were in a match, the team were really up for it. Finley again the MOM for me but blimey he does play on the edge and I was worried he was talking himself into a red when our pen wasn’t given. A much better performance after Barnsley and we were really in with a chance I thought until their pen. Connolly played well. But I’m not sure we’re getting a fair crack from referees and I’m afraid their dislike of JB is colouring their decisions against us. We got few, if any, 50/50 decisions and being so close to the pen I was amazed that such a vital decision went against us. He wasn’t poor as a ref but he got an important decision wrong. UTG “I’m not sure we’re getting a fair crack from referees and I’m afraid their dislike of JB is colouring their decisions against us.” Interesting observation. But I’m not convinced refs even follow football. There are players famous for diving, yet the refs keep giving them soft pens. Refs are like prefects, allowed a slipper for discipline, it’s never about getting it right, it’s just a power trip. I’ll try to be fair. My entire career in officialdom was to run the line for one half of one game, and I didn’t have a clue who the ball was coming off last. Back to Rovers, and I saw enough against Oxford last week to know we will be fine this season, more than enough quality and experience and fight to stay up. The last one proved a season is a long time, we could even get on a roll again, we certainly look like we can score goals. Whatever I think about B***** as a person I wouldn’t go as far as moron, truth is I havent entirely taken to him because there’s always the feeling he’ll say or do something twatish any moment, but I do like the way B***** as a manager has Bristol Rovers playing in 2022, they play with belief and energy, so we are not being let down by either belief or energy on the field, since Joey abandoned back three late last year I can’t fault him for tactics, signings, and the belief and work ethic in the matches, the relentless press in the heat against Oxford built the win. And the 12 wins from 16 to win promotion was actually better than it looked, I remember it as a tough setup of fixtures for a run in.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 20, 2022 21:44:58 GMT
Joe told the squad and in relitive terms,'don't bother showing up for training Thursday and Friday,unless you're ready for war'. Expect a competitive performance today.I hope! [brw]No good allowing the occasion get to you. I wish he’d stop the war rhetoric. What’s wrong with fighting spirit ffs? I understand and agree but i think it is just in every fibre of his being and i think, just my opinion, we are talking about a man who, most probably, is at war with himself. I thought lickle Lee was daft when he spoke of europa league but i think Joey has just trumped that with talk of prem football. Doesn’t he realise this is Rovers we are talking about. To be fair to the 82 ers, i can understand them laughing at the comment. I imagine, also, that he is struggling with the impending court case. It must take it’s toll when you have had to pay for such high level legal but also have to meet them and go through the whole process. Maybe we will see a different guy when that is over, one way or the other
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 20, 2022 21:55:08 GMT
A very reckless tackle from Whelan who should know better) set the initial tone for the match ,and with both sets of players clearly unsettled by the incidence, it put the ‘ dampeners on the game for awhile.. Absolutely no one, players (or fans) want to see a professional player in such distress and looking at possible career ending injury. Next was to concede another a very soft goal, the second very soft goal in four days it’s really not acceptable. Nevertheless we do have do have a great bunch of players, along with a very talented manager in JB (who is not a moron) who ooze spirit, talent and commitment and we deservedly got a goal back to make it 1 - 1 and for me I fully expected the. gas to go on to win the match.l Then it was the turn of the a real Moron the most one sided, biased immoral official who has more spin that the ‘four tops’ i can only hope, assuming that he wasn’t just doing someone a favour, that he had a bet on the result, that he chokes when spending his winnings as they sure is no skill in predicting when you know which team is going to win. What’s needed is a real ‘whistle blower’ who can root out the cheats ,crooks and bellends. Ahhhhhhhhh in case it’s not obvious iam so angry! Now you mention match fixing, i was offered to be part of a syndicate, for an initial investment of 3k, to get a list of matches results. It did pique my interest and i asked for some back up and i was shown a list, just as a tester, of 4 matches and, to my surprise, they all happened today. I am by nature a suspicious person so i blocked the person but i now do really wonder if it does happen as i cannot, not in anyway, explain how those four results were correct. This was via bloody instagram. Given the outrage by not just our lot, i now genuinely wonder of the whole thing is a set up.
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Post by gasprom on Aug 20, 2022 22:46:20 GMT
A very reckless tackle from Whelan who should know better) set the initial tone for the match ,and with both sets of players clearly unsettled by the incidence, it put the ‘ dampeners on the game for awhile.. Absolutely no one, players (or fans) want to see a professional player in such distress and looking at possible career ending injury. Next was to concede another a very soft goal, the second very soft goal in four days it’s really not acceptable. Nevertheless we do have do have a great bunch of players, along with a very talented manager in JB (who is not a moron) who ooze spirit, talent and commitment and we deservedly got a goal back to make it 1 - 1 and for me I fully expected the. gas to go on to win the match.l Then it was the turn of the a real Moron the most one sided, biased immoral official who has more spin that the ‘four tops’ i can only hope, assuming that he wasn’t just doing someone a favour, that he had a bet on the result, that he chokes when spending his winnings as they sure is no skill in predicting when you know which team is going to win. What’s needed is a real ‘whistle blower’ who can root out the cheats ,crooks and bellends. Ahhhhhhhhh in case it’s not obvious iam so angry! Now you mention match fixing, i was offered to be part of a syndicate, for an initial investment of 3k, to get a list of matches results. It did pique my interest and i asked for some back up and i was shown a list, just as a tester, of 4 matches and, to my surprise, they all happened today. I am by nature a suspicious person so i blocked the person but i now do really wonder if it does happen as i cannot, not in anyway, explain how those four results were correct. This was via bloody instagram. Given the outrage by not just our lot, i now genuinely wonder of the whole thing is a set up. Intriguing post of the day KP, I’d love to know the 4 teams (and next weeks)
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Post by toteend3 on Aug 20, 2022 23:37:19 GMT
Now you mention match fixing, i was offered to be part of a syndicate, for an initial investment of 3k, to get a list of matches results. It did pique my interest and i asked for some back up and i was shown a list, just as a tester, of 4 matches and, to my surprise, they all happened today. I am by nature a suspicious person so i blocked the person but i now do really wonder if it does happen as i cannot, not in anyway, explain how those four results were correct. This was via bloody instagram. Given the outrage by not just our lot, i now genuinely wonder of the whole thing is a set up. Intriguing post of the day KP, I’d love to know the 4 teams (and next weeks) And I would to as long as one of the four teams is not Shrewsbury!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 21, 2022 7:21:55 GMT
I would like to say Gordon is a moron. Ask Jilted John. Julie would disagree...
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Post by baselswh on Aug 21, 2022 7:41:19 GMT
I would like to say Gordon is a moron. Ask Jilted John. Julie would disagree... Yes,but oh she is cruel and heartless. Reminds me of Joe in the post match interview, commenting on getting our 3rd tier squad together....... how 'we're a band reforming'.We've made some great albums (last season),but that band lost some important sections.Now we're getting the new line together,with auditions finishing at the end of the month.' Then our season will begin.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 21, 2022 7:46:42 GMT
Watched on ifollow..
Excellent debut by Gibson, looked class.
Missed the challenge that Thomson was stretchered off with, and am too wise to get carried away with crowd noise to judge whether a red was correct or not (we see it at Mem sometimes too).. I did note Whelan was subbed at half time anyway, so I know it happens at lower league level, perhaps just perhaps JAB done the honourable thing with it conveniently fitting within plans?
Hoole didn't look comfortable all match with his playing out of ball, plus his positioning on their 3rd (I know it was counter attack) whom was unmarked from his defending position.
Belly was jittery. Yes he made his punches out and his handling was ok, but it lacked conviction. I wonder if his confidence is slightly knocked?
Aaza was his buzzing, playing his football in a cheerful way, self. Just put his laces through ball for his goal which nutmeg defender and almost went through Keep....I think he took his speculative goal well.
Pompey well organised, we made them work hard for their deserved victory. They threw almost everything at us and for large periods of the game, we coped and dealt with. We didn't buckle. But, that place has its jitters over us and something controversial always happens....this time it's the ref's consistency called into question? Invariably we always end up on wrong side of those things down there, but it's a side issue. We didn't to enough to deserve anything from down there, and from what I saw, the 2nd half was better than the 1st, which was whole way better than Barnsley fiasco and I'd call it a spirited fighting defeat. Again (with exception of last time).
JAB post match comments didn't reflect what my thoughts were, but I wasn't there in real time.
What I don't understand is....why is he allaying our season starts when transfer window closes? Isn't that what pre season is a about: experimentation?
Poor comments on defeat, just makes you look like a whiny child.
Speedy recovery for injury fella though, no one wants to see careers end in that fashion.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 21, 2022 8:23:13 GMT
Watched on ifollow.. Excellent debut by Gibson, looked class. Missed the challenge that Thomson was stretchered off with, and am too wise to get carried away with crowd noise to judge whether a red was correct or not (we see it at Mem sometimes too).. I did note Whelan was subbed at half time anyway, so I know it happens at lower league level, perhaps just perhaps JAB done the honourable thing with it conveniently fitting within plans? Hoole didn't look comfortable all match with his playing out of ball, plus his positioning on their 3rd (I know it was counter attack) whom was unmarked from his defending position. Belly was jittery. Yes he made his punches out and his handling was ok, but it lacked conviction. I wonder if his confidence is slightly knocked? Aaza was his buzzing, playing his football in a cheerful way, self. Just put his laces through ball for his goal which nutmeg defender and almost went through Keep....I think he took his speculative goal well. Pompey well organised, we made them work hard for their deserved victory. They threw almost everything at us and for large periods of the game, we coped and dealt with. We didn't buckle. But, that place has its jitters over us and something controversial always happens....this time it's the ref's consistency called into question? Invariably we always end up on wrong side of those things down there, but it's a side issue. We didn't to enough to deserve anything from down there, and from what I saw, the 2nd half was better than the 1st, which was whole way better than Barnsley fiasco and I'd call it a spirited fighting defeat. Again (with exception of last time). JAB post match comments didn't reflect what my thoughts were, but I wasn't there in real time. What I don't understand is....why is he allaying our season starts when transfer window closes? Isn't that what pre season is a about: experimentation? Poor comments on defeat, just makes you look like a whiny child. Speedy recovery for injury fella though, no one wants to see careers end in that fashion. Preseason the players JB are after are not always available o2o2bo2ba.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 21, 2022 9:19:47 GMT
Watched on ifollow.. Excellent debut by Gibson, looked class. Missed the challenge that Thomson was stretchered off with, and am too wise to get carried away with crowd noise to judge whether a red was correct or not (we see it at Mem sometimes too).. I did note Whelan was subbed at half time anyway, so I know it happens at lower league level, perhaps just perhaps JAB done the honourable thing with it conveniently fitting within plans? Hoole didn't look comfortable all match with his playing out of ball, plus his positioning on their 3rd (I know it was counter attack) whom was unmarked from his defending position. Belly was jittery. Yes he made his punches out and his handling was ok, but it lacked conviction. I wonder if his confidence is slightly knocked? Aaza was his buzzing, playing his football in a cheerful way, self. Just put his laces through ball for his goal which nutmeg defender and almost went through Keep....I think he took his speculative goal well. Pompey well organised, we made them work hard for their deserved victory. They threw almost everything at us and for large periods of the game, we coped and dealt with. We didn't buckle. But, that place has its jitters over us and something controversial always happens....this time it's the ref's consistency called into question? Invariably we always end up on wrong side of those things down there, but it's a side issue. We didn't to enough to deserve anything from down there, and from what I saw, the 2nd half was better than the 1st, which was whole way better than Barnsley fiasco and I'd call it a spirited fighting defeat. Again (with exception of last time). JAB post match comments didn't reflect what my thoughts were, but I wasn't there in real time. What I don't understand is....why is he allaying our season starts when transfer window closes? Isn't that what pre season is a about: experimentation? Poor comments on defeat, just makes you look like a whiny child. Speedy recovery for injury fella though, no one wants to see careers end in that fashion. Preseason the players JB are after are not always available o2o2bo2ba. I get that, b.....but isn't it the same for every club in top 4 divisions? If that's the attitude, it feels like the first 10 matches, like 20% of the season, is: "oh well the season hasn't started yet because we haven't gotten in the players we want..." So many variables after window closes. What happens if we don't recruit as required? We've lost the initiative, momentum and new season bounce.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 21, 2022 9:27:30 GMT
Now you mention match fixing, i was offered to be part of a syndicate, for an initial investment of 3k, to get a list of matches results. It did pique my interest and i asked for some back up and i was shown a list, just as a tester, of 4 matches and, to my surprise, they all happened today. I am by nature a suspicious person so i blocked the person but i now do really wonder if it does happen as i cannot, not in anyway, explain how those four results were correct. This was via bloody instagram. Given the outrage by not just our lot, i now genuinely wonder of the whole thing is a set up. Intriguing post of the day KP, I’d love to know the 4 teams (and next weeks) Tottenham, wolves, QPR and MK were the four but i blocked the bloke or group and i would be too worried to be involved anyway. It certainly does make me wonder. Makes me feel like it could all be a set up but then, i highly doubt that anyone could get to every team. I cannot, not logically , explain how those four were all correct and, as i have said before, i do not bet as i got into big trouble at an early age
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 21, 2022 9:36:13 GMT
Preseason the players JB are after are not always available o2o2bo2ba. I get that, b.....but isn't it the same for every club in top 4 divisions? If that's the attitude, it feels like the first 10 matches, like 20% of the season, is: "oh well the season hasn't started yet because we haven't gotten in the players we want..." So many variables after window closes. What happens if we don't recruit as required? We've lost the initiative, momentum and new season bounce. Exactly right and we never capitalised on our double promotion, last time. This feels like we are making the same and awful mistake, all over again
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Post by baselswh on Aug 21, 2022 10:40:59 GMT
Preseason the players JB are after are not always available o2o2bo2ba. I get that, b.....but isn't it the same for every club in top 4 divisions? If that's the attitude, it feels like the first 10 matches, like 20% of the season, is: "oh well the season hasn't started yet because we haven't gotten in the players we want..." So many variables after window closes. What happens if we don't recruit as required? We've lost the initiative, momentum and new season bounce. It is the same for all top 4 division clubs,yes. FCs in say the Prem and Championship would of used their first few games to check out good young players (probably young),to see if they want them in the first team squad,if not they will probably be loaned out. These players are more than likely good players already,but are not yet quite good enough for eg Barnsley, Stoke City or Newcastle United.Also,there are players and agents holding out for an offer from a 2nd tier fc,but as we get nearer to the window closure, these people start to look more favourably at the 3rd tier. In the same way Joe is experimenting with his squad right now so are other clubs and significantly top two tier clubs. Joe has identified the 5 or 6 he wants.Why settle for other when there is a reasonable chance of getting his targets. To use the band theme again (as Joe did post Pompey),why have eg a drummer that can't jump from 4 time,to 3.Or why settle for a drummer that insanely wants to stick Keith Moon-esque solos twice in every verse,when 4 weeks later,4 gigs later if you will ,you can get the drummer that appreciates the song and therefore is happy playing it. Rovers would of played 6 3rd tier games by the close of window. Imo a risk period of 6 games to get the squad/band members together and then to play sweet music. In the scenario we fail to sign these 5 or 6,I'll take a 5 from bottom finish now thank you and try again next season.I think we would stay up. Granted o2o2bo2ba, there is an element of risk in Joe's strategy,but his record is good,I admire him holding his nerve and insistinghe wants his targets.Adds spice and excitement to this era. "Don't panic Captain Mainwaring"! 🤞👍
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Aug 21, 2022 11:00:57 GMT
It was Whelan’s second such challenge of the match, like it was a wet and windy night in Stoke ten years ago. Somebody should tell him times have moved on and a high press to force mistakes is the norm today, especially near the halfway line where there’s very little danger. He obviously had to answer his general’s warcry to set an example. A warcry B***** later followed up with the usual victim whine about the ref. Amazes me how so many fans buy into it.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 21, 2022 11:13:03 GMT
Imo Whelans challenge can be put down as 'one of those things'.
A yellow card yes,red,probably not.
The ball was there to be won,the Pompey lad put his leg out to shield the ball,or block Whelan. Our man was already committed to going in.
I think in that split second Glen was going for the ball.
Any news on the Pompey player?
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 21, 2022 11:36:42 GMT
Think Whelan has gone to ground twice this season and been booked both times. Last season he did it twice in a game ending in a red. Hope is he won't be needed this season as new players come in. On the other hand others are picking up yellows at a rate so may be needed.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 21, 2022 14:12:24 GMT
It was Whelan’s second such challenge of the match, like it was a wet and windy night in Stoke ten years ago. Somebody should tell him times have moved on and a high press to force mistakes is the norm today, especially near the halfway line where there’s very little danger. He obviously had to answer his general’s warcry to set an example. A warcry B***** later followed up with the usual victim whine about the ref. Amazes me how so many fans buy into it. Could have been me writing that post. It certainly set the tone for the rest of the match
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 21, 2022 14:13:25 GMT
Imo Whelans challenge can be put down as 'one of those things'. A yellow card yes,red,probably not. The ball was there to be won,the Pompey lad put his leg out to shield the ball,or block Whelan. Our man was already committed to going in. I think in that split second Glen was going for the ball. Any news on the Pompey player? Either broken ankle or leg. Not sure which as i have had a couple and can’t remember
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Post by baselswh on Aug 21, 2022 14:52:27 GMT
Imo Whelans challenge can be put down as 'one of those things'. A yellow card yes,red,probably not. The ball was there to be won,the Pompey lad put his leg out to shield the ball,or block Whelan. Our man was already committed to going in. I think in that split second Glen was going for the ball. Any news on the Pompey player? Either broken ankle or leg. Not sure which as i have had a couple and can’t remember Ouch! Hopefully not complicated and he'll recover asap.
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