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Post by Eclectic Blue on Aug 23, 2014 11:49:44 GMT
Not saying you’re wrong. I think you are just being mischievous to suggest this now when the Club is in such a perilous position. It would be an irrelevant distraction. There is much more important things then all this nonsense. Come back and suggest it when things are going well, when are marching up the leagues and settled in a new stadium. I am sure it would be more positively viewed in more fitting circumstances. Then you are definitely wrong, I couldn't think of a more fitting time than now. Geoff will become a Vice President of the club as his is right within the club guidelines. You might see it as nonsense but the general consensus appears to be supportive of the proposal. How on earth this would be "an irrelevant distraction' is utterly beyond me. And I don't regard it as "nonsense" that Geoff Dunford be made President of the club. To suggest such a simple process should wait until the club is "marching up the leagues and settled in a new stadium" (so 2016 at the very earliest) appears to imply that Darrell Clarke's ability to manage the team and Nick Higgs' ability to build the UWE would somehow be impaired is just tosh. It would be a footnote at a board meeting, that's all. From Swampy's tone, it appears he has enjoyed the years of failure and division a lot more than the rest of us.
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rovers2
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Post by rovers2 on Aug 23, 2014 11:54:17 GMT
I agree with the above, that's a different issue. For 20+ years of the Dunford ownership myself, my company and family were more than happy to support the club and the owners both vocally and financially. Not saying you’re wrong. I think you are just being mischievous to suggest this now when the Club is in such a perilous position. It would be an irrelevant distraction. There is much more important things then all this nonsense. Come back and suggest it when things are going well, when are marching up the leagues and settled in a new stadium. I am sure it would be more positively viewed in more fitting circumstances. I don't understand what you are writing Paul. I think the historical position of Club President is not an irrelevant distraction. It is part of the fabric of the club that the board are custodians of. What I also find rather sad is that you see the worse in everyone by thinking it mischievous. The appointment of Geoff as President would be a one minute process in a board meeting, followed maybe but not necessarily by a prsentation at a match. Hardly something that would prevent a March up the leagues. Overall, I think it is time to stop all this animosity on all sides and start trying to come to some compromise. I think Kevin has taken a step in this direction that should be applauded, not derided, by you.
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Post by manchestergas on Aug 23, 2014 12:19:51 GMT
I think Paul is worried about this scenario:
At a board meeting in the near future.
NH: I propose GD be made President of the club. Chris Jelf: I support the proposal. NH: so let's have a vote. NH: all in favour say Aye,....aye. NH: All against say Naye....naye. NH: so it's passed. NH: Boycie can I ask you to get Paul Seaton to get Geoff a nice crystal decanter for a presentation on the pitch at the next game. BB: but Paul is doing some very important work in the clubs time of need can't it wait until we are shooting up the league at the UWE? NH: I will not be shamed by Kevin Spencer and a few internet warriors, if I say it will be done, it will be done, it is written.
Meanwhile in his secret base under an extinct volcano outside Keysham where the hidden agenda is kept.
Kevin Spencer: ah my evil plan will succeed....evil laughter....the club will be mine.
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Post by gassedup on Aug 23, 2014 12:39:10 GMT
Overall, I think it is time to stop all this animosity on all sides and start trying to come to some compromise. Amen
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Post by Nurse Ratched on Aug 23, 2014 13:18:36 GMT
Not saying you’re wrong. I think you are just being mischievous to suggest this now when the Club is in such a perilous position. It would be an irrelevant distraction. There is much more important things then all this nonsense. Come back and suggest it when things are going well, when are marching up the leagues and settled in a new stadium. I am sure it would be more positively viewed in more fitting circumstances. I don't understand what you are writing Paul. I think the historical position of Club President is not an irrelevant distraction. It is part of the fabric of the club that the board are custodians of. What I also find rather sad is that you see the worse in everyone by thinking it mischievous. The appointment of Geoff as President would be a one minute process in a board meeting, followed maybe but not necessarily by a prsentation at a match. Hardly something that would prevent a March up the leagues. Overall, I think it is time to stop all this animosity on all sides and start trying to come to some compromise. I think Kevin has taken a step in this direction that should be applauded, not derided, by you. Funny. It’s only the aspiring boardroom fawners that celebrate the importance of these positions. It’s an irrelevance to the rest of us, who look to what is happening on the pitch as well as the progress of the stadium as being the most important factors. Even under normal circumstances, the vast majority of supporters would not give a jot about such positions. So why now? It would be just a sideshow that would not be the fitting tribute to GD while Rome burns. To even suggest this, you, Kevin, EB, etc obviously don’t feel the pain that the rest of us are going through at the moment. Leave it until a time which we find ourselves in better circumstances. It would then be more recognised and appreciated as the correct thing to do.
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Post by dagnogo on Aug 23, 2014 13:29:39 GMT
It's mildly pathetic to suggest that folk who have put the hours in in the past don't care as much as others because you disagree with them. (And on this issue, I do disagree)
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 23, 2014 13:38:54 GMT
Funny. It’s only the aspiring boardroom fawners that celebrate the importance of these positions. It’s an irrelevance to the rest of us, who look to what is happening on the pitch as well as the progress of the stadium as being the most important factors. Even under normal circumstances, the vast majority of supporters would not give a jot about such positions. So why now? It would be just a sideshow that would not be the fitting tribute to GD while Rome burns. To even suggest this, you, Kevin, EB, etc obviously don’t feel the pain that the rest of us are going through at the moment.Leave it until a time which we find ourselves in better circumstances. It would then be more recognised and appreciated as the correct thing to do. You said " To even suggest this, you, Kevin, EB, etc obviously don’t feel the pain that the rest of us are going through at the moment."
What arrogant tosh. Are you going to tell us all who agree with NB on this to f**k off to Ashton as well?
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Post by rovers2 on Aug 23, 2014 13:50:47 GMT
I don't understand what you are writing Paul. I think the historical position of Club President is not an irrelevant distraction. It is part of the fabric of the club that the board are custodians of. What I also find rather sad is that you see the worse in everyone by thinking it mischievous. The appointment of Geoff as President would be a one minute process in a board meeting, followed maybe but not necessarily by a prsentation at a match. Hardly something that would prevent a March up the leagues. Overall, I think it is time to stop all this animosity on all sides and start trying to come to some compromise. I think Kevin has taken a step in this direction that should be applauded, not derided, by you. Funny. It’s only the aspiring boardroom fawners that celebrate the importance of these positions. It’s an irrelevance to the rest of us, who look to what is happening on the pitch as well as the progress of the stadium as being the most important factors. Even under normal circumstances, the vast majority of supporters would not give a jot about such positions. So why now? It would be just a sideshow that would not be the fitting tribute to GD while Rome burns. To even suggest this, you, Kevin, EB, etc obviously don’t feel the pain that the rest of us are going through at the moment. Leave it until a time which we find ourselves in better circumstances. It would then be more recognised and appreciated as the correct thing to do. Paul, while it respect your opinion I think that you are wrong, in the dark days we are in I honestly believe it is good to respect the traditions of the club. That is new reason I enjoyed the thread by people supporting Rovers for 50 years or more (I am 50 years a supporter November this year). I also am looking forward to the new books by Harry Buckle. This is all part of the fabric of the club and the foundation of rebuilding Rovers back to what we were. The Club Presidency, honouring old players, supporters club evenings about old games etc are all part of this. The bit where you go on about not feeling the pain is not worthy of you, and not worthy of a response.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 23, 2014 15:29:02 GMT
Not saying you’re wrong. I think you are just being mischievous to suggest this now when the Club is in such a perilous position. It would be an irrelevant distraction. There is much more important things then all this nonsense. Come back and suggest it when things are going well, when are marching up the leagues and settled in a new stadium. I am sure it would be more positively viewed in more fitting circumstances. I don't understand what you are writing Paul. I think the historical position of Club President is not an irrelevant distraction. It is part of the fabric of the club that the board are custodians of. What I also find rather sad is that you see the worse in everyone by thinking it mischievous. The appointment of Geoff as President would be a one minute process in a board meeting, followed maybe but not necessarily by a prsentation at a match. Hardly something that would prevent a March up the leagues. Overall, I think it is time to stop all this animosity on all sides and start trying to come to some compromise. I think Kevin has taken a step in this direction that should be applauded, not derided, by you. But that is what Mr Seaton does best or at least it seems that way to me. Of all the people involved in the banning ISTM that he actually enjoys this and certainly looks to bait people when it suits him. I don't get it, never will. It's more important now to galvanise the support, to consolidate those that are still going and to build from there. Time to heal wounds and to get the old Rivers family feel again. While this crap festers on then I feel this will never happen. I mean, look at this thread. Kevin makes a perfectly decent proposal and yet that is jumped upon by Mr Seaton, in his ivory tower, casting aspersions and judging it as mischief making. Some people are bigger than the sum of their parts and try to rise above it but others never want to even try to accept that. We have an extremely fractured fanbase and the team is surely suffering from that. It really is time to put this sordid piece of history to bed IMO. Before people throw stones they may like to ask what they have been prepared to do for the club from their own personal funds.
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Post by chrissyg58 on Aug 23, 2014 22:21:04 GMT
So we want a man who has raped the club and continues to screw us after his resignation to be our president, grow up and find out the truth
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Post by thecyclist on Aug 23, 2014 22:30:54 GMT
Not saying you’re wrong. I think you are just being mischievous to suggest this now when the Club is in such a perilous position. It would be an irrelevant distraction. There is much more important things then all this nonsense. Come back and suggest it when things are going well, when are marching up the leagues and settled in a new stadium. I am sure it would be more positively viewed in more fitting circumstances. Then you are definitely wrong, I couldn't think of a more fitting time than now. Geoff will become a Vice President of the club as his is right within the club guidelines. You might see it as nonsense but the general consensus appears to be supportive of the proposal. Just threaten Nurse Rachet with legal proceedings, he'll go to ground very quickly.
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Post by jozer on Aug 24, 2014 2:24:19 GMT
Yes, it would be interesting if he answered the question. I heard that GD had nothing to do with NB being banned. Then you are wrong. My letter from the club confirms that it was a "unanimous" board decision and this was confirmed by Nick when we met in January of this year. Edit: I almost forgot, Geoff also told me last year during a telephone conversation that he disagreed with how the ban was issued. All the BoD including the 'fans directors' I presume? Including the 'fans director' BSS who stated that he voted for the ban despite not knowing what it was for? GoD saying he disagreed with how it was issued is hardly the same as saying he disagreed with the ban itself. As has been pointed out NH could bury this one right now but he either can't or doesn't want to. Neither explanation paints him in any good light. I'd still like to hear from them exactly what you said that was 'unfounded'. Won't hold my breath though. I suspect that your critisisms were very much founded and that's exactly what they didn't like about it.
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Post by fanatical on Aug 24, 2014 9:38:52 GMT
It was sad to notice yesterday that the name plate for Geoff Dunford's car parking space had been removed already (less than seven days after his resignation) - how petty can our BOD get? - and what chance of him becoming President? - suggest that is nil
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Post by PessimistGas on Aug 24, 2014 9:51:04 GMT
It was sad to notice yesterday that the name plate for Geoff Dunford's car parking space had been removed already (less than seven days after his resignation) - how petty can our BOD get? - and what chance of him becoming President? - suggest that is nil Surprising, especially as GD is still a major shareholder. Makes me wonder if there is more to this than meets the eye and there has been a bit of a spat behind the scenes. Will they make him pay for his own ticket as well?
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Post by fanatical on Aug 24, 2014 10:04:31 GMT
It was sad to notice yesterday that the name plate for Geoff Dunford's car parking space had been removed already (less than seven days after his resignation) - how petty can our BOD get? - and what chance of him becoming President? - suggest that is nil Surprising, especially as GD is still a major shareholder. Makes me wonder if there is more to this than meets the eye and there has been a bit of a spat behind the scenes. Will they make him pay for his own ticket as well? He pays for his own box
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Post by Northville Blue on Aug 24, 2014 11:09:32 GMT
Geoff will be entitled to a parking space as a box holder. He is also entitled to become a life Vice President of the club.
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Post by basel on Aug 24, 2014 11:19:13 GMT
I don't want to see Geoff Dunford as Rovers president. I want to hear he has sold his shares.
I would also like to hear he is attending games and supporting the team like the rest of us.
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Post by fanatical on Aug 24, 2014 11:22:40 GMT
Geoff will be entitled to a parking space as a box holder. He is also entitled to become a life Vice President of the club. but not in the Directors car park
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Post by Northville Blue on Aug 24, 2014 11:25:36 GMT
Geoff will be entitled to a parking space as a box holder. He is also entitled to become a life Vice President of the club. but not in the Directors car park I don't think he will lose sleep over that.
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Post by harrybuckle on Aug 24, 2014 12:38:35 GMT
I don't want to see Geoff Dunford as Rovers president. I want to hear he has sold his shares. I would also like to hear he is attending games and supporting the team like the rest of us. he cant sell his shares without the consent of the other board members as far as I know and why sale now when low value ...wait till we are at UWE or at least back in the FL. gUESS HE CAN PASS THEM OVER TO HIS SON ?
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