Goodnight Irene At The Quarters.

Not really Wareham but we are going over old ground and will likely get bogged down if we're not careful.

The 1990's vintage plans for a rugby clubhouse were obviously not suitable for a professional football club but we went ahead and built it anyway. Apologists tried to say it was all part of a grand scheme to make planning permission for a bigger building easier to achieve but I think we know enough about Rovers planning capabilities to recognise that was a smokescreen. It was built because Rovers had given no forethought to where we were going to train when the Cribbs lease ran out and was a panic move.

Now if the November 2021 permission for a rebuild to increase space had been implemented during the close season and the contractors had been primed and ready to move in it would be different. If, perhaps after the little inconvenience of having to train elsewhere for a few weeks while work was completed, we were now proudly looking at a building which was fit for purpose then there might be something in talking about stage X of the project. But knowing that nothing was done and that even the planning conditions such as the landscape planting, internal roadways, entrance gates, perimeter pathway and specified fencing has not been carried out indicates that we might have bitten off more than we can chew with the training ground.

The accounts show that the work at the training ground is being paid for by Rovers and is classed as an asset in the company balance sheet.

But the point you make about "all the funds belong to the Al Qadi's" begs the question "where do the funds come from ?"

In rough figures Rovers annual running costs are about £9 million of which about £1.5 million comes from central funding, about £4.5 million from ticket sales, commercial sales, hospitality, sponsorship, advertising etc and about £3 million from the owners.

So it could be argued that about 50% of Rovers funding comes directly or indirectly from supporters. 

So you're ITK....!!

(its for the kids)

I know which my money would be on!! 

Maybe we should thank the mighty Jools for holding on to his ITK info otherwise this place "would go into meltdown". 

If it’s that bad, then in my opinion, you have a duty of care to the fanbase to tell all IMO. If not, then you are complicit in whatever is going to fail the club.

Just to try and clarify what is supposed to happen, the tee shape is being extended to a square. This will involve removing a couple of sections of wall.

The outline of the current building can be seen in blue. The revisions were being designed when Ben Garner was in charge and before the clubhouse was above ground level.




We've only just been given planning permission for the landscaping, fencing etc mentioned by Swiss, which is why they've not been carried out yet.

Did you hear the one about the man with the long term plan ?

2019 he decides to put up a building which is too small.

2020 he has a plan drawn up to rectify that mistake

2021 he gets permission to implement the plan

2022 he doesn’t even talk about implementing the plan but instead lets it leak out via a trusted friend that he’s going to build a brand new all singing all dancing first team complex with community facilities thrown in for good measure.

So I take it Swiss just from what you are saying here -
2019 - You are unhappy that a training ground was started based on existing plans
2020 - you are unhappy that a mistake was rectified
2021 - you are unhappy that he got planning permission
2022 - you are unhappy that news of the plan for which he got planning permission was leaked and that it will be better for the community.....

Swiss, you know how much I have respect for your thoughts as they are usually well constructed arguments. However this is coming across as you just being unhappy that BRFC are getting what they need.

This thread contains comments that gave the impression that the original build was going to be demolished to make way for a bigger build.
We now understand that that is incorrect and walls are being taken down to accommodate a bigger and better facility.
It may be that previous managers thought the proposed facility was adequate but subsequently it was realised it wasn't and the current manager has required a bigger facility, which he is getting.

Perhaps I'm missing something
Regards Cheshire

From the amount of mud that is thrown, which is clearly sticking with some posters around here, it seems he is unhappy that there is an owner who is able to spend money on the club and deliver what we need.  

Perhaps its an ego thing where his own tenure on the board doesnt look quite the success he wants others to believe it to be when the successors are achieving much greater things to which they will be remembered?

Either way, I dont understand the need for the constant negative spin to every thing that the owner seems to do or not do and that the alternative swiss way is much better.  If the swiss way was always the better way then surely his advice and services would be the most sought after in the EFL?!