kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 30, 2024 14:52:34 GMT
Be interested to know how Bolton are in a position to pay almost a million for a player, given that they were effectively bust not that long ago. Shades of Southampton and Lambert, not that long ago. Bury were allowed to go under, but the likes of Bolton, Southampton and Derby are effectively able to hedge on the fact that they are 'big' clubs. When teams like Derby, Bolton, Reading and Portsmouth go 'bad', they should be relegated to the conference and forced to work within the same financial constraints as the team with the smallest budget for a period of at least five years. Conversely, of course, the 'massive' BCFC1982 should have been wound up and not given the option of effectively blackmailing players to forgo money they were entitled to while screwing over local creditors. To change the rules all the EFL chairmen have to vote in favour and with the risk of relegating their own club to non league for 5 years they are never going to do that. Bury's demise came when the owner borrowed large sums of money against the stadium leaving charges in place before selling the club for £1 to a charlatan who knew nothing about football. He never even knew that Bury FC existed until he spent his quid. He passed the EFL fit and proper person test, probably because the EFL couldn't find anything negative about him. Strangely we know nothing about our new owners and the previous owner has burdened the club with charges on the stadium and training ground. I couldn't happen here though could it? If you had posted that, even up to maybe 18 months ago then I’d be worried but it’s become such a circus that I have become pretty indifferent to the goings on. Of course Rovers will always be a part of me but there is no point in stressing over things I have no control over. I do have some bad vibes about the new guy though and can only hope that this is all wrong and that he gets good people in and makes the club worthy of it’s extremely loyal fan base
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 30, 2024 14:53:41 GMT
I grow more impressed by MT by the day. Not only is response fair and measured it does not hang AC to dry and leaves him the possibility of changing his mind, working harder and making himself one of the first names on the teamsheet. Personally I do think he will go and this might be in all our best interests but would depend on the deal. Straight swap for Mullin? Yes, he’s a straight arrow, no doubt of that, very refreshing to see and hear
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 30, 2024 14:56:42 GMT
I’ve got a horrible feeling we will let him go for £800,000 thinking it’s a good deal on present form , and then rue the day when we see a the player we know he could be when he plays for Bolton etc But if he wants to go , then this day & age it’s best to let him go I’d say it was a good deal, given his form and attitude
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 30, 2024 17:17:20 GMT
Dickies Wembley Flick & Chip - Priceless. Bergkamp in disguise Indeed. Had those goals been scored by a PL club they would have won GOTS. As it was a few mentions on Sky and us lot talking about them for the next 20 years. Fantastic skills shown by RW. UTG!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 30, 2024 18:54:00 GMT
The side functioned far better on Saturday without him. He s**t his nest full for me when at the end of the Blackpool game he twice batted the ball away when the ball boy was trying to get it to him for our throw in and secondly stomped off the pitch on his own with his stupid Cheshire Cat grin while the rest of the team were on the far side of the park acknowledging the fans. He was crap when he arrived, had a decent 6 months until, from my perspective, he was rejected by Wales and seemed to take that as some sort of insult and did sod all really since. £600,000 would have been a cheek if offered at his peak but not far off from being accurate for the rubbish he’s churning out now. So, what are you trying to say?! 🤭
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Post by bluetornados on Jan 30, 2024 19:27:00 GMT
Ian Evatt reveals Bolton's stance on Aaron Collins as Bristol Rovers face transfer decision..by Daniel Hargraves.i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/25/18/34823720-8877825-image-m-4_1603651711527.jpgIan Evatt has revealed that Bolton Wanderers are considering whether to make a second offer for Bristol Rovers forward Aaron Collins with Thursday’s transfer deadline fast approaching. As reported by Bristol Live, Evatt has confirmed that the League One promotion chasers had an approach rejected last week, understood to be for £600,000 with the Gas valuing Collins more towards the £1m mark. Speaking to the Bolton News, Evatt admits Collins remains a consideration for the club as they seek to add one more attacking player but Blackburn Rovers striker Niall Ennis is also an option, with the 24-year-old a potential loan signing. Reports claim that the Trotters are effectively the only show in town in terms of clubs actively trying to sign the Welshman but Bristol Live understands that Rovers continue to be made aware of Charlton Athletic and Wrexham’s interest in the 26-year-old. Whether that turns into further bids, with the Addicks also unsuccessful with an offer last week, remains to be seen, but it’s in the Gas’ interest to have as many clubs as possible bidding for Collins, while it helps Bolton’s bargaining position for them to be considered as the only credible option in the market. ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/10F36/production/_126103496_shutterstock_editorial_12846735bk.jpg“We like both players,” Evatt said. “We have paid an interest in both of them as well. We made an offer last week to Bristol Rovers (for Collins), which we considered to be a pretty good one, and it was rejected. We are now thinking about what we do next. “That could be another offer for Aaron but equally we could change tack and go down the loan route again. We are comfortable with where we are, in a good place, and whoever we bring in we are full of confidence that we will get the job done.” The window closes at 11pm on Thursday which gives Rovers a decreasing period of time to get any deal done with Collins’ relationship with the club seemingly broken beyond repair. Manager Matt Taylor claimed on Saturday that the Welshman elected not to be in the squad against Oxford United due to the transfer interest around him. Bristol Live has learned that Collins has felt increasingly disillusioned since contract talks failed to materialise after the summer window, in which he remained at the Gas after winning the League One Player of the Year award, while he’s also changed representatives this season. With 18 months remaining on his contract in BS7, Rovers have this window or the summer to secure a sale before his value begins to drop considerably. The prospect of keeping an unhappy player, however, could prove detrimental to the remainder of their season while a sizeable fee for Collins could allow Taylor to reinvest in the squad in what’s remaining of this transfer window. “I don’t know anything about that. He isn’t our player, he belongs to Bristol Rovers and we have to pay them the ultimate respect,” Evatt added. “Whatever happens there is down to Matt and their board, I am sure they will have conversations with Aaron himself. But for us, we will try and do things correctly. “We made an offer, it was rejected. We haven’t made another offer and we are currently considering our position, so that is where it stands for us.”
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Post by syg on Jan 30, 2024 19:27:27 GMT
The side functioned far better on Saturday without him. He s**t his nest full for me when at the end of the Blackpool game he twice batted the ball away when the ball boy was trying to get it to him for our throw in and secondly stomped off the pitch on his own with his stupid Cheshire Cat grin while the rest of the team were on the far side of the park acknowledging the fans. He was crap when he arrived, had a decent 6 months until, from my perspective, he was rejected by Wales and seemed to take that as some sort of insult and did sod all really since. £600,000 would have been a cheek if offered at his peak but not far off from being accurate for the rubbish he’s churning out now. So, what are you trying to say?! 🤭 Maybe he's a sensitive guy. Maybe he has a problem with other players. Who knows.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 31, 2024 8:31:00 GMT
So, what are you trying to say?! 🤭 Maybe he's a sensitive guy. Maybe he has a problem with other players. Who knows. That is spot on, none of us know and so we speculate. I don’t think that our own fans giving him dogs abuse would help
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Jan 31, 2024 12:37:36 GMT
Bolton Wanderers give their take it or leave offer
In some ways prefer him to stsy
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Post by DCR on Jan 31, 2024 13:17:34 GMT
Would be madness not to take it.
second half of the season sat on the bench he will be worth nothing.
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Post by texasgas on Jan 31, 2024 13:28:55 GMT
Would be madness not to take it. second half of the season sat on the bench he will be worth nothing. Why would he be sat on the bench?
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Post by oldie on Jan 31, 2024 15:02:49 GMT
Would be madness not to take it. second half of the season sat on the bench he will be worth nothing. Why would he be sat on the bench? Grass is damp
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Post by texasgas on Jan 31, 2024 15:20:23 GMT
Why would he be sat on the bench? Grass is damp The only grass he could sit on would be inside the technical area and that’s just silly. My point is - if he stays he won’t be on the bench a lot. He has started most games (maybe not recently) and you have to think he’ll be starting games if he does indeed stay. If he doesn’t want to play anymore and we don’t sell him then that’s just awful business…oh wait yeah this is Bristol Rovers.
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Post by oldie on Jan 31, 2024 15:34:11 GMT
Where will he sit after he leaves? Is a discount at DFS part of the deal. Does anybody care...are we taking this all a bit too seriously...
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Post by bluetornados on Jan 31, 2024 15:35:20 GMT
IMO AC needs to be sold in this window for the 600k or slightly higher, while he has clubs willing to pay good money for him..
If it goes to the summer, i fear he will be worth significantly less than what is on offer now...
If the money goes on team re-building, then many players can be acquired through wages to strengthen the team for next season.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 31, 2024 17:42:30 GMT
IMO AC needs to be sold in this window for the 600k or slightly higher, while he has clubs willing to pay good money for him.. If it goes to the summer, i fear he will be worth significantly less than what is on offer now... If the money goes on team re-building, then many players can be acquired through wages to strengthen the team for next season. Agree with BT. So not quite the huge fee ("the bidding starts at £4mil") that the previous delusional manager was suggesting he was worth. Quelle que shocker.
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Post by syg on Jan 31, 2024 18:22:07 GMT
He's gone.
Not sure where, but he's gone.
Great memories of his practically unplayable few months.
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Post by harrybuckle on Jan 31, 2024 18:30:44 GMT
£750k bid from Bolton for Collins appears to have been accepted having medical tomorrow.
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Post by syg on Jan 31, 2024 18:38:34 GMT
Removing Rovers from his twitter account without yet replacing it with Bolton is telling.
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Post by texasgas on Jan 31, 2024 19:35:32 GMT
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