trymer
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Post by trymer on Jun 23, 2024 8:26:12 GMT
I didnt hear Farage say anything like that,he says he detests Putin but admires how he outwits Western politicians (not hard is it ?) I agreed with Angela Rayner the other day (about oil) doesnt mean to say that I like her. Farage first spoke about the Russian Ukraine situation in 2014. Of course he was slated. He has been proven right. Again. 'Don't poke the bear'. Farage is quite right top point out that the prediction that he made 10 years ago has come true. These people who seem to want to have a war against "fascist bullies" all have something in common in that they wont be going to fight in any war...they probably despise the military but will let that same military get slaughtered for their "principles" whilst they continue to live in some rural hidey hole. My view is that Britain should become an armed neutral country with a very strong armed force that would make anyone think again before attacking Britain...troops should never be sent to fight in mainland Europe,look at history hundereds of thousands of British lads killed so that some prikcs of politicians can get into the history books...
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Ukraine
Jun 24, 2024 14:59:43 GMT
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Post by lostinspace on Jun 24, 2024 14:59:43 GMT
Russia has blamed the US and vowed "consequences" for a Ukrainian missile strike on Sevastopol in occupied Crimea on Sunday, which officials say killed four people - including two children.
Around 150 more were injured in the attack as missile debris fell on a beach nearby.
Russia's defence ministry said the missiles used by Ukraine were US-supplied ATACMS missiles, and claimed they were programmed by US specialists.
Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov called the strike "barbaric" and accused the US of "killing Russian children".
He pointed towards comments by President Vladimir Putin, who recently vowed to target countries supplying weapons to Ukraine.
Moscow said Sunday's deaths and injuries were caused by falling debris, after its air defences in Crimea intercepted five missiles loaded with cluster warheads launched by Ukrainian forces.
Footage carried on Russian state TV showed chaos on the beach in the Uchkuyevka area, as people ran from the falling debris and some injured people were carried away on sun loungers.
Russia's defence ministry claimed on Sunday that all ATACMS missiles are programmed by US specialists and guided by American satellites.
The US has been supplying ATACMS missiles to Ukraine for over a year. The system allows Ukrainian forces to strike targets up to 300km (186 miles) away, according to manufacturer Lockheed Martin.
Moscow illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and just a handful of countries recognise the peninsula as Russian territory. It therefore does not fall under the US demands that Ukraine refrain from using Washington-supplied weapons to strike Russian territory.
But Mr Peskov told reporters in Moscow on Monday that the "involvement of the United States, the direct involvement, as a result of which Russian civilians are killed, cannot be without consequences".
"Time will tell what these will be," he added.
The Russian foreign ministry summoned the US Ambassador Lynne Tracy on Monday, before issuing a statement accusing the US of involvement in an "atrocity" and vowing it would "not go unpunished".
Moscow has repeatedly threatened to target countries supplying weapons to Ukraine, claiming that they are legitimate military targets.
"We see very well who is behind this," Mr Peskov told reporters on Monday.
"[Mr Putin] just last week talked about who is aiming these absolutely technologically complex missiles at targets, who is providing these launches. These are not Ukrainians."
Earlier this month, Mr Putin renewed the threat during a meeting with international news agencies.
"If someone thinks it is possible to supply such weapons to a war zone to attack our territory and create problems for us, why don't we have the right to supply weapons of the same class to regions of the world where there will be strikes on sensitive facilities of those (Western) countries?" he said.
"That is, the response can be asymmetric. We will think about it," he added.
Ukrainian officials have defended the strike in the wake of the attack, calling Crimea a legitimate target.
Mykhailo Podolyak - a top aide to President Volodymyr Zelensky - said the peninsula was in effect "a large military camp" which he said held "hundreds of direct military targets, which the Russians are cynically trying to hide and cover up with their own civilians". Could be an interesting month ahead, Ruskie not liking a taste of their own medicine it seems
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Post by trymer on Jun 24, 2024 16:31:41 GMT
Russia has blamed the US and vowed "consequences" for a Ukrainian missile strike on Sevastopol in occupied Crimea on Sunday, which officials say killed four people - including two children. Around 150 more were injured in the attack as missile debris fell on a beach nearby. Russia's defence ministry said the missiles used by Ukraine were US-supplied ATACMS missiles, and claimed they were programmed by US specialists. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov called the strike "barbaric" and accused the US of "killing Russian children". He pointed towards comments by President Vladimir Putin, who recently vowed to target countries supplying weapons to Ukraine. Moscow said Sunday's deaths and injuries were caused by falling debris, after its air defences in Crimea intercepted five missiles loaded with cluster warheads launched by Ukrainian forces. Footage carried on Russian state TV showed chaos on the beach in the Uchkuyevka area, as people ran from the falling debris and some injured people were carried away on sun loungers. Russia's defence ministry claimed on Sunday that all ATACMS missiles are programmed by US specialists and guided by American satellites. The US has been supplying ATACMS missiles to Ukraine for over a year. The system allows Ukrainian forces to strike targets up to 300km (186 miles) away, according to manufacturer Lockheed Martin. Moscow illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and just a handful of countries recognise the peninsula as Russian territory. It therefore does not fall under the US demands that Ukraine refrain from using Washington-supplied weapons to strike Russian territory. But Mr Peskov told reporters in Moscow on Monday that the "involvement of the United States, the direct involvement, as a result of which Russian civilians are killed, cannot be without consequences". "Time will tell what these will be," he added. The Russian foreign ministry summoned the US Ambassador Lynne Tracy on Monday, before issuing a statement accusing the US of involvement in an "atrocity" and vowing it would "not go unpunished". Moscow has repeatedly threatened to target countries supplying weapons to Ukraine, claiming that they are legitimate military targets. "We see very well who is behind this," Mr Peskov told reporters on Monday. "[Mr Putin] just last week talked about who is aiming these absolutely technologically complex missiles at targets, who is providing these launches. These are not Ukrainians." Earlier this month, Mr Putin renewed the threat during a meeting with international news agencies. "If someone thinks it is possible to supply such weapons to a war zone to attack our territory and create problems for us, why don't we have the right to supply weapons of the same class to regions of the world where there will be strikes on sensitive facilities of those (Western) countries?" he said. "That is, the response can be asymmetric. We will think about it," he added. Ukrainian officials have defended the strike in the wake of the attack, calling Crimea a legitimate target. Mykhailo Podolyak - a top aide to President Volodymyr Zelensky - said the peninsula was in effect "a large military camp" which he said held "hundreds of direct military targets, which the Russians are cynically trying to hide and cover up with their own civilians". Could be an interesting month ahead, Ruskie not liking a taste of their own medicine it seems Yes it is interesting,what are Russia's options to strike America... Give weapons to terrorist groups in Syria,Iraq and tell them to attack US troops. Some kind of cyber attack in the USA. An attack in space on American satellites. An all out unannounced nuclear attack on America...the worst option but unlikely as they have warned that they will be doing something.
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Post by trymer on Jun 30, 2024 16:22:30 GMT
Another article on BBC online about people hiding from the press gangs in Ukraine and paying smugglers to get them out of the country.
Nobby I have started the book that you recommended,the way that Europe was then wars were bound to happen, now with virtually every countries population so split that democracy is collapsing I think that we could be heading for more wars in Europe....you can be sure that China/Russia/North Korea etc etc are rubbing their hands.....and waiting.
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 2, 2024 4:35:02 GMT
British cabbie is killed in Ukraine where he was hailed as a hero for saving hundreds of soldiers as a volunteer combat medic..by David Averrei.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/01/15/86790273-13588325-image-m-52_1719844726394.jpgPeter Fouché 49A former London cab driver who helped save hundreds of Ukrainian servicemen wounded in battles with Russian forces has been killed on the frontline. Peter Fouché, who co-founded the Project Konstantin charity responsible for orchestrating the medical evacuation (medevac) of more than 200 Ukrainian soldiers, died in fighting last month, the charity revealed on Sunday. Born and raised in Bluewater Bay, South Africa, 49-year-old Fouché served as a sniper in the nation's 'Flying Squad' - an elite branch of the police service tasked with rapid response to major violent crimes such as homicides, armed robberies and hijackings. The father-of-one later moved to Fulham in West London and obtained British citizenship. In Britain, he worked in construction and later became a driver for cab and courier service Addison Lee. But in March 2022, Fouché headed to Ukraine following the Russian invasion in February, desperate to put his skills learned during his time with the Flying Squad to good use. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/01/15/86791027-13588325-Fouch_is_seen_standing_in_front_of_a_damaged_building_in_Ukraine-a-73_1719845555821.jpgAnnouncing his death on social media this weekend, a spokesperson for Project Konstantin shared a touching tribute to Fouché - known affectionately as Hasta La Vista - that told of his lifesaving work on the frontlines of Ukraine. 'It is with the heaviest of hearts that we announce the passing of Pete, our beloved director and founder,' it began. 'There are no words that can do Pete's life justice. No words or phrases could ever encapsulate how much he meant to all of us. Pete's unwavering dedication, endless compassion, and relentless commitment to Ukraine and her people have left an everlasting impact on the countless lives he touched. His heroism knew no bounds. 'He was actively involved in saving more than 200 wounded Ukrainian soldiers, evacuating civilians from the most dangerous frontline cities, as well as bringing humanitarian aid to people in those towns and cities. 'Pete's bravery and selflessness in the face of danger were nothing short of extraordinary, and his actions will forever be etched in our hearts. 'We will honour Pete's memory by continuing the work he was so passionate about, carrying forward his legacy of courage and kindness, of fighting for what is right, and of speaking up in the face of injustice. The heartfelt tribute concluded: 'Rest in peace, Peter. We know that our Heavenly Father has welcomed you into His arms. Your heroism and contributions will never be forgotten and we will make sure that it was not in vain.' Upon his arrival in Ukraine, Fouché volunteered to fight for Kyiv with one of many territorial defence units that were created following the outbreak of war. But as a trained member of South Africa's Flying Squad, he felt his experience of high-speed car control and rapid response incidents would be better suited to performing medevacs. He later co-founded the Project Konstantin charity with Tetyana Millard, a British-Ukrainian citizen who was also involved in providing humanitarian aid to frontline towns and evacuating wounded soldiers. Millard died in a horror car crash as she drove a donated car to a frontline position in Ukraine last year. The charity's name itself is a tribute to a Ukrainian serviceman named Konstantin who had fought alongside Fouché and was killed by Russian mortar fire.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 2, 2024 9:19:12 GMT
I think the Kerch Bridge could be going down soon.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 3, 2024 9:14:28 GMT
Another article on BBC online about people hiding from the press gangs in Ukraine and paying smugglers to get them out of the country. Nobby I have started the book that you recommended,the way that Europe was then wars were bound to happen, now with virtually every countries population so split that democracy is collapsing I think that we could be heading for more wars in Europe....you can be sure that China/Russia/North Korea etc etc are rubbing their hands.....and waiting. Hope you are enjoying the book as much as I did
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Post by trymer on Jul 7, 2024 18:33:52 GMT
British cabbie is killed in Ukraine where he was hailed as a hero for saving hundreds of soldiers as a volunteer combat medic..by David Averrei.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/01/15/86790273-13588325-image-m-52_1719844726394.jpgPeter Fouché 49A former London cab driver who helped save hundreds of Ukrainian servicemen wounded in battles with Russian forces has been killed on the frontline. Peter Fouché, who co-founded the Project Konstantin charity responsible for orchestrating the medical evacuation (medevac) of more than 200 Ukrainian soldiers, died in fighting last month, the charity revealed on Sunday. Born and raised in Bluewater Bay, South Africa, 49-year-old Fouché served as a sniper in the nation's 'Flying Squad' - an elite branch of the police service tasked with rapid response to major violent crimes such as homicides, armed robberies and hijackings. The father-of-one later moved to Fulham in West London and obtained British citizenship. In Britain, he worked in construction and later became a driver for cab and courier service Addison Lee. But in March 2022, Fouché headed to Ukraine following the Russian invasion in February, desperate to put his skills learned during his time with the Flying Squad to good use. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/01/15/86791027-13588325-Fouch_is_seen_standing_in_front_of_a_damaged_building_in_Ukraine-a-73_1719845555821.jpgAnnouncing his death on social media this weekend, a spokesperson for Project Konstantin shared a touching tribute to Fouché - known affectionately as Hasta La Vista - that told of his lifesaving work on the frontlines of Ukraine. 'It is with the heaviest of hearts that we announce the passing of Pete, our beloved director and founder,' it began. 'There are no words that can do Pete's life justice. No words or phrases could ever encapsulate how much he meant to all of us. Pete's unwavering dedication, endless compassion, and relentless commitment to Ukraine and her people have left an everlasting impact on the countless lives he touched. His heroism knew no bounds. 'He was actively involved in saving more than 200 wounded Ukrainian soldiers, evacuating civilians from the most dangerous frontline cities, as well as bringing humanitarian aid to people in those towns and cities. 'Pete's bravery and selflessness in the face of danger were nothing short of extraordinary, and his actions will forever be etched in our hearts. 'We will honour Pete's memory by continuing the work he was so passionate about, carrying forward his legacy of courage and kindness, of fighting for what is right, and of speaking up in the face of injustice. The heartfelt tribute concluded: 'Rest in peace, Peter. We know that our Heavenly Father has welcomed you into His arms. Your heroism and contributions will never be forgotten and we will make sure that it was not in vain.' Upon his arrival in Ukraine, Fouché volunteered to fight for Kyiv with one of many territorial defence units that were created following the outbreak of war. But as a trained member of South Africa's Flying Squad, he felt his experience of high-speed car control and rapid response incidents would be better suited to performing medevacs. He later co-founded the Project Konstantin charity with Tetyana Millard, a British-Ukrainian citizen who was also involved in providing humanitarian aid to frontline towns and evacuating wounded soldiers. Millard died in a horror car crash as she drove a donated car to a frontline position in Ukraine last year. The charity's name itself is a tribute to a Ukrainian serviceman named Konstantin who had fought alongside Fouché and was killed by Russian mortar fire. Sad news,I have a lot of respect for people who back their views up by volunteering to help their cause and put their life in danger,thats on either side of any war, I didnt like Jack Jones politics in some ways but I respect that he went off to fight for what he believed in. I notice that it is being said that Labour will try and make relations with the EU closer,some remainiacs think that Britain will rejoin the EU,I am convinced that the EU will be fighting on its eastern borders quite soon,imagine a situation where Britain has rejoined and there is fighting will the remainers be off to join the fight ?...it would be funny if it wasnt so tragic.
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Post by trymer on Jul 7, 2024 18:37:25 GMT
Another article on BBC online about people hiding from the press gangs in Ukraine and paying smugglers to get them out of the country. Nobby I have started the book that you recommended,the way that Europe was then wars were bound to happen, now with virtually every countries population so split that democracy is collapsing I think that we could be heading for more wars in Europe....you can be sure that China/Russia/North Korea etc etc are rubbing their hands.....and waiting. Hope you are enjoying the book as much as I did Well I am definitely enjoying it, btw it stirred a memory of a mass grave being found in Vilnius a few years ago....I had a look and in fact it was 2011, if you Google Napoleons lost army theres an article on the BBC website,its quite interesting and worth a quick read....there must be thousands of mass graves in that part of the World.
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 7, 2024 19:22:46 GMT
Hope you are enjoying the book as much as I did Well I am definitely enjoying it, btw it stirred a memory of a mass grave being found in Vilnius a few years ago....I had a look and in fact it was 2011, if you Google Napoleons lost army theres an article on the BBC website,its quite interesting and worth a quick read....there must be thousands of mass graves in that part of the World. There was a BBC programme earlier this year, concerning WW1,where it had good reason to make excavations in an area of continuous'ongoing battles' between the two waring sides, this followed Information from German records, The investigators made a discovery of a large trench burial of approx 100 - 200 British infantry men, records showed that from some DNA taken these were from the North of England, 9 men were identified and repatriated,further investigations are following and they believe there are at least another 10 such burials with they believe the same amount of souls in each trench ....
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Post by trymer on Jul 8, 2024 7:12:14 GMT
Chinese troops in joint exercises in Belorussia....apparently Belorussia has joined the Chinese/Russian alliance....must be bigger and more powerful than the Warsaw pact was.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 8, 2024 7:51:51 GMT
Well I am definitely enjoying it, btw it stirred a memory of a mass grave being found in Vilnius a few years ago....I had a look and in fact it was 2011, if you Google Napoleons lost army theres an article on the BBC website,its quite interesting and worth a quick read....there must be thousands of mass graves in that part of the World. There was a BBC programme earlier this year, concerning WW1,where it had good reason to make excavations in an area of continuous'ongoing battles' between the two waring sides, this followed Information from German records, The investigators made a discovery of a large trench burial of approx 100 - 200 British infantry men, records showed that from some DNA taken these were from the North of England, 9 men were identified and repatriated,further investigations are following and they believe there are at least another 10 such burials with they believe the same amount of souls in each trench .... Another interesting story is the remains of the dead from Waterloo. It's believed that around 10,000 died that day, and yet only two skeletons have ever been found! It is believed that the bodies were dug up afterwards, and the bones were crushed down and used in the local sugar processing industry (something to do with the bones used as a kind of charcoal in sugar purification!).
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Ukraine
Jul 8, 2024 9:40:19 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jul 8, 2024 9:40:19 GMT
There was a BBC programme earlier this year, concerning WW1,where it had good reason to make excavations in an area of continuous'ongoing battles' between the two waring sides, this followed Information from German records, The investigators made a discovery of a large trench burial of approx 100 - 200 British infantry men, records showed that from some DNA taken these were from the North of England, 9 men were identified and repatriated,further investigations are following and they believe there are at least another 10 such burials with they believe the same amount of souls in each trench .... Another interesting story is the remains of the dead from Waterloo. It's believed that around 10,000 died that day, and yet only two skeletons have ever been found! It is believed that the bodies were dug up afterwards, and the bones were crushed down and used in the local sugar processing industry (something to do with the bones used as a kind of charcoal in sugar purification!). I have it on good authority that the crushed bones were used as finings in the local beer industry. Hence why lager is always so crystal clear. Whilst we, appalled at such practice, used fish bladders. Lovely
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Post by trymer on Jul 8, 2024 16:49:30 GMT
Well I am definitely enjoying it, btw it stirred a memory of a mass grave being found in Vilnius a few years ago....I had a look and in fact it was 2011, if you Google Napoleons lost army theres an article on the BBC website,its quite interesting and worth a quick read....there must be thousands of mass graves in that part of the World. There was a BBC programme earlier this year, concerning WW1,where it had good reason to make excavations in an area of continuous'ongoing battles' between the two waring sides, this followed Information from German records, The investigators made a discovery of a large trench burial of approx 100 - 200 British infantry men, records showed that from some DNA taken these were from the North of England, 9 men were identified and repatriated,further investigations are following and they believe there are at least another 10 such burials with they believe the same amount of souls in each trench .... I remember that burial being found. Menin Gate has the names of 55,000 British dead who have no known grave and Tyne Cott another 40,000 (i think) apparently if the remains of one of these soldiers is found they are given a military funeral and their name is taken off of Menin Gate/Tyne Cott...the vast majority though will have been blown to pieces by artillery an no remains will exist. There was a very interesting TV programme many years ago (when I still had a TV) 'the Grave' about the discovery and exhumation of a mass grave near Vukovar in Croatia,well worth watching.
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Post by trymer on Jul 11, 2024 18:49:29 GMT
More speculation that North Korea are sending troops to Ukraine, '50,00 poorly trained cannon fodder' or '10,000 trained engineers to help rebuild' in other words they dont know.
As Nobby said on here we dont know how good North Korean troops are, 50,000 trained shock troops and assault engineers with infra red blocking cloaks,good comms and drones could if used in the 5 weakest places in the Ukes lines really make a difference...50,000 poorly trained poorly equipped troops wont be a game changer.
Pictures of the Chinese troops in joint exercises in Belorussia are up online,good propaganda,some of the rhetoric at this NATO meeting seems designed to push China closer to Russia, its almost like they want a WW3.
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Post by trymer on Jul 11, 2024 18:58:19 GMT
Apparently the Russians are paying people to commit acts of sabotage,espionage (terroriism ?) around Europe,some Uke was caught in Poland after committing various crimes and being paid by his Russian handler....this is a tactic that the USSR used,paying 'useful idiots' to commit crimes against other countries.
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Post by trymer on Jul 25, 2024 14:37:22 GMT
An interesting report on the BBC today about the use of drones in the front lines, mentioning drone jammers and drone detectors. I wonder how long it will be before someone develops a drone that can home in on an enemy drone operators signal and blast them ?
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Ukraine
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Post by baldrick on Jul 25, 2024 14:42:44 GMT
An interesting report on the BBC today about the use of drones in the front lines, mentioning drone jammers and drone detectors. I wonder how long it will be before someone develops a drone that can home in on an enemy drone operators signal and blast them ? Did you watch Hell Jumpers last night?
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Post by trymer on Jul 26, 2024 8:09:28 GMT
An interesting report on the BBC today about the use of drones in the front lines, mentioning drone jammers and drone detectors. I wonder how long it will be before someone develops a drone that can home in on an enemy drone operators signal and blast them ? Did you watch Hell Jumpers last night? No I dont do TV, when I mentioned BBC it was Radio 4. I Googled it,about a volunteer who went to help in Ukraine and was killed. I have respect for people who put their lives at risk by volunteering for their cause ( any cause) I feel sympathy for conspcripts (of any side) and contempt for the people who comment on BBC 'have your say' saying things like 'we must fight' 'we must not give up' 'we must not lose' etc etc..this 'we' of course does not include them as they have no intention of doing anything dangerous.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 31, 2024 16:23:09 GMT
Reports indicate that Ukraine have received the first batch of F-16's.
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