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Jan 17, 2022 2:51:09 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jan 17, 2022 2:51:09 GMT
I think WAQs gamble on Joe Garner did'nt work and that led to our relegation.Fair play for having ago though.Don't forget who was managerwhen we droppedout of the EFL.I don't blame DC,but JW.DC did okay after that ay.š The ununited off the field staff ruined Paul Tisdales efforts. We now have a direction and a rudder because we have 1 Boss.It could of been Paul Tisdale but he was'nt given the power Joe has. This is the major difference.We now have a course and it seems all are singing from the JB song book. A team on and off the field. We could do with a new stadium of course,that should give WAQ the courage to support a promotion challenge to the 2nd tier. I think once promoted back to the 3rd tier (this or next time) we'll be in a better position to challenge for a place in the 2nd tier. Joe Garner. Hmm... Do you think Basel was referring to Joel Garner? š¤«š
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Post by swissgas on Jan 17, 2022 3:28:03 GMT
Are you feeling OK Bas? We've crossed the bridge and are already relegated. Your buddies Wael and Barton have conspired to undo all the work done over a season that culminated with that wonderful last minute winner against Daggenham, all up in smoke. We are a 4th division club again. All of Wael's hot air about having a time-line to get us into the 2nd tier, all just nonsense. I think WAQs gamble on Joe Garner did'nt work and that led to our relegation.Fair play for having ago though.Don't forget who was managerwhen we droppedout of the EFL.I don't blame DC,but JW.DC did okay after that ay.š The ununited off the field staff ruined Paul Tisdales efforts. We now have a direction and a rudder because we have 1 Boss.It could of been Paul Tisdale but he was'nt given the power Joe has. This is the major difference.We now have a course and it seems all are singing from the JB song book. A team on and off the field. We could do with a new stadium of course,that should give WAQ the courage to support a promotion challenge to the 2nd tier. I think once promoted back to the 3rd tier (this or next time) we'll be in a better position to challenge for a place in the 2nd tier. The idea of having āone bossā for the football side of the club isnāt necessarily a bad one and itās ironic Bas that you were almost a lone voice championing Lennie Lawrence as āthat manā when many of us thought he was taking Rovers for a ride. Only later did we find out that Nick Higgs decided not to go along with Lennieās advice and there must have been something of a falling out because Lennie was made to work a notice period which was the reason he looked so grumpy and disinterested. In terms of character and managerial track record there was a case for Nick handing the football side over to Lennie but JB has no such qualities so I think surrendering total control to him was a reckless gamble made more out of desperation than rationality. At the half way stage of the season we are in 16th place and out of all cup competitions but many fans look up to the stars and carefully count the points to be gained from winning games in hand while other teams conveniently lose. They are somehow able to measure fitness levels and team spirit and confidently believe the barometer is rising. Having this mindset means being outplayed at home by Hartlepool but stealing a victory is naturally a clear sign of progress. We have been here so many times before and my thoughts go back ten years to when we beat Burton Albion 7-1 and Accrington Stanley 5-1 with Mark McGhee being described as the āstrong manā Rovers had been in desperate need of for years. We know how that ended up and we know where Burton and Accrington are now.
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Thomas
Jan 17, 2022 8:06:39 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jan 17, 2022 8:06:39 GMT
Do you think Basel was referring to Joel Garner? š¤«š Ben. I admit i guessed and I've only just remembered his name. Afraid it doesn't take anything away from a happy player and manager after the public telling off and big effort to improve by LT.
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Post by baselswh on Jan 17, 2022 8:25:53 GMT
I think WAQs gamble on Joe Garner did'nt work and that led to our relegation.Fair play for having ago though.Don't forget who was managerwhen we droppedout of the EFL.I don't blame DC,but JW.DC did okay after that ay.š The ununited off the field staff ruined Paul Tisdales efforts. We now have a direction and a rudder because we have 1 Boss.It could of been Paul Tisdale but he was'nt given the power Joe has. This is the major difference.We now have a course and it seems all are singing from the JB song book. A team on and off the field. We could do with a new stadium of course,that should give WAQ the courage to support a promotion challenge to the 2nd tier. I think once promoted back to the 3rd tier (this or next time) we'll be in a better position to challenge for a place in the 2nd tier. The idea of having āone bossā for the football side of the club isnāt necessarily a bad one and itās ironic Bas that you were almost a lone voice championing Lennie Lawrence as āthat manā when many of us thought he was taking Rovers for a ride. Only later did we find out that Nick Higgs decided not to go along with Lennieās advice and there must have been something of a falling out because Lennie was made to work a notice period which was the reason he looked so grumpy and disinterested. In terms of character and managerial track record there was a case for Nick handing the football side over to Lennie but JB has no such qualities so I think surrendering total control Ā to him was a reckless gamble made more out of desperation than rationality. At the half way stage of the season we are in 16th place and out of all cup competitions but many fans look up to the stars and carefully count the points to be gained from winning games in hand while other teams conveniently lose. They are somehow Ā able to measure fitness levels and team spirit and confidently believe the barometer is rising. Having this mindset means being outplayed at home by Hartlepool but stealing a victory is naturally a clear sign of progress. We have been here so many times before and my thoughts go back ten years to when we beat Burton Albion 7-1 and Accrington Stanley 5-1 with Mark McGhee being described as the āstrong manā Rovers had been in desperate need of for years. We know how that ended up and we know where Burton and Accrington are now. I've got to get to work Swiss,but Saturdays victory and in slightly bonkers village Vicars sermon style (I've heard many),I see a similarity with my Sunday tea and Monday morning (just now) breakfast. Sunday evening I opened what I thought was a can of custard,to go with a rhubarb tart.After opening the can I saw it was actually a rice pudding,not custard.I put it in the fridge and then opened a can of custard. This Monday morning I got up telling myself 'come on,Monday mornings ar'nt so bad'.Then I remembered the opened can of rice pudding. Not my planned breakfast but I went for it and with a blob of jam to boot. Tastey and cheery. The sunday evening defeat was turned into a Monday morning win! The Hartlepool win went from a possible defeat to victory and that is how the cookie sometimes crumble.Not to mention the 7 selection changes had to find their 'grass legs' again and Hartlepool were very determined to improve their poor away record and that after a good FA Cup win against Blackpool. Monday morning. š š
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Post by baselswh on Jan 17, 2022 8:35:30 GMT
I think WAQs gamble on Joe Garner did'nt work and that led to our relegation.Fair play for having ago though.Don't forget who was managerwhen we droppedout of the EFL.I don't blame DC,but JW.DC did okay after that ay.š The ununited off the field staff ruined Paul Tisdales efforts. We now have a direction and a rudder because we have 1 Boss.It could of been Paul Tisdale but he was'nt given the power Joe has. This is the major difference.We now have a course and it seems all are singing from the JB song book. A team on and off the field. We could do with a new stadium of course,that should give WAQ the courage to support a promotion challenge to the 2nd tier. I think once promoted back to the 3rd tier (this or next time) we'll be in a better position to challenge for a place in the 2nd tier. Delusional. Anyway, it won't be Barton next season if we are still a L2 club, which looks most likely right now. Remember what he said Bas, and he's very very clever, he said so himself, so wouldn't have just opened his mouth and waited to see what nonsense came out, only morons do that. His own words, he'll go if we don't get promoted. Never want Rovers to lose, but am cheering for every single club above us for the rest of the season. Anyway, your memory is failing you old chap, we were in a play off place in L1 under Coughlan, and somehow, incredibly, against all odds managed to get relegated just over a year later. What makes you think Wael has got the faintest clue about running a football club? Why do you ignore the apparent fact off field Rovers are now a team? It's where you go wrong,apart from your disgust WAQ employed JB that has clouded your judgement. . WAQ gambled with Ben Garner.It did'nt work out,but he had the guts to try. He has taken another gamble on Joe Barton. I think it is coming along nicely and will succeed. I think WAQ realised the previous ununited off field 'team's had failed and he was part of that failiure. In Joe he saw a man with experience, a vision and the confidence to follow it through.He needed to be the Boss to do it. He weighed things up and thought why not? It made sense and it's exciting. In the scenario we don't go up I hope WAQ keeps faith with Joe.
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Jan 17, 2022 10:13:28 GMT
Post by petecolley on Jan 17, 2022 10:13:28 GMT
I think WAQs gamble on Joe Garner did'nt work and that led to our relegation.Fair play for having ago though.Don't forget who was managerwhen we droppedout of the EFL.I don't blame DC,but JW.DC did okay after that ay.š The ununited off the field staff ruined Paul Tisdales efforts. We now have a direction and a rudder because we have 1 Boss.It could of been Paul Tisdale but he was'nt given the power Joe has. This is the major difference.We now have a course and it seems all are singing from the JB song book. A team on and off the field. We could do with a new stadium of course,that should give WAQ the courage to support a promotion challenge to the 2nd tier. I think once promoted back to the 3rd tier (this or next time) we'll be in a better position to challenge for a place in the 2nd tier. Delusional. Anyway, it won't be Barton next season if we are still a L2 club, which looks most likely right now. Remember what he said Bas, and he's very very clever, he said so himself, so wouldn't have just opened his mouth and waited to see what nonsense came out, only morons do that. His own words, he'll go if we don't get promoted. Never want Rovers to lose, but am cheering for every single club above us for the rest of the season. Anyway, your memory is failing you old chap, we were in a play off place in L1 under Coughlan, and somehow, incredibly, against all odds managed to get relegated just over a year later. What makes you think Wael has got the faintest clue about running a football club?
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Post by petecolley on Jan 17, 2022 10:14:20 GMT
"Never want Rovers to lose, but am cheering for every single club above us for the rest of the season"
Shameful !
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Thomas
Jan 17, 2022 11:33:48 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 11:33:48 GMT
"Never want Rovers to lose, but am cheering for every single club above us for the rest of the season" Shameful ! No, it's called having a moral compass and wanting Barton as far away from my club as possible. Supporting anything to do with the bloke is what's shameful here.
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Jan 17, 2022 11:43:25 GMT
Post by towngas on Jan 17, 2022 11:43:25 GMT
"Never want Rovers to lose, but am cheering for every single club above us for the rest of the season" Shameful ! No, it's called having a moral compass and wanting Barton as far away from my club as possible. Supporting anything to do with the bloke is what's shameful here. Canāt agree with this Duke but there you go. Agree to disagree I think.
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Jan 17, 2022 12:36:39 GMT
Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 17, 2022 12:36:39 GMT
Not sure you know what sycophantic means Bas. Anyway, you've been at it since the lout arrived. My point was, once he's gone, and he will be in due course, you'll have the rest of your life to cringe at how you've been his No 1 cheerleader. My support of Joe on this forum has been bold in order to combat the cascade of hate from you and a few others. I cannot hate someone of something i do not know so i dont hate him but i look at the overall picture and, most importantly, his point per game and patently daft predictions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 12:54:54 GMT
"Never want Rovers to lose, but am cheering for every single club above us for the rest of the season" Shameful ! No, it's called having a moral compass and wanting Barton as far away from my club as possible. Supporting anything to do with the bloke is what's shameful here. Bristol Rovers is "to do with the bloke". Are you suggesting that the thousands of us who support (as in go and watch) the team on match day, have no moral compass? Actually, don't worry about answering.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 13:15:01 GMT
No, it's called having a moral compass and wanting Barton as far away from my club as possible. Supporting anything to do with the bloke is what's shameful here. Bristol Rovers is "to do with the bloke". Are you suggesting that the thousands of us who support (as in go and watch) the team on match day, have no moral compass? Actually, don't worry about answering. If the reply isn't important then why bother making the comment? Every ticket bought contributes to his wage and every person counted endorses the decision to bring him here. Each individual can make a stand against the appointment, some will just ignore who he is and that he has a court hearing scheduled for a matter relating to domestic violence, and will attend. Have said it before, but everybody on here would be disgusted if it were a Lady associated with their family that he's accused of assaulting and people couldn't find it in themselves to boycott the business he represents. Anyway, I didn't want to have an argument with you about this, we've done it several times, what irritates is this fawning, sycophantic way in which Bas constantly refers to the lout.
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Jan 17, 2022 13:26:46 GMT
Post by TaiwanGas on Jan 17, 2022 13:26:46 GMT
At the final whistle on Saturday I caught a glimpse of Luke Thomas rising from the bench, he did not look a happy chap.
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Post by Bamber Gashead on Jan 17, 2022 13:40:47 GMT
Ah, so you don't really like who the bloke is, you are just trying to make a point. I don't 'hate' him, I pity him, and all of the people he's attacked. I think he's doing a good job at Rovers. Up until Saturday he had lost twice as many games as he had won with Rovers. As his anniversary approaches how on earth can that be considered to be good?
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Jan 17, 2022 13:53:53 GMT
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jan 17, 2022 13:53:53 GMT
"Never want Rovers to lose, but am cheering for every single club above us for the rest of the season" Shameful ! No, it's called having a moral compass and wanting Barton as far away from my club as possible. Supporting anything to do with the bloke is what's shameful here. My own moral compass was triggered when Higgs started to ban fans for āconsistent criticismā. I didnāt attend for nearly 3 years. Not once during that time did I want the team to fail. I cried when we got relegated to the Conference, I cried again when we got promoted again (watched the final on BT Sport). I realised that while my morals prevented me from attending, my heart was still in BS7. Wishing ill on the team, the club and most importantly the fans because of one bloke is morally reprehensible.
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Jan 17, 2022 14:10:16 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 14:10:16 GMT
No, it's called having a moral compass and wanting Barton as far away from my club as possible. Supporting anything to do with the bloke is what's shameful here. My own moral compass was triggered when Higgs started to ban fans for āconsistent criticismā. I didnāt attend for nearly 3 years. Not once during that time did I want the team to fail. I cried when we got relegated to the Conference, I cried again when we got promoted again (watched the final on BT Sport). I realised that while my morals prevented me from attending, my heart was still in BS7. Wishing ill on the team, the club and most importantly the fans because of one bloke is morally reprehensible. Read what I actually said yesterday. I'll remind you. I would never want Rovers to lose, but if it hastens the departure of Punchy, I'm happy to cheer for every team above us in L2 right now. Anyway, good for you for doing what you thought was right. For you, clearly, making a stand against one person being excluded from the stadium is more important than protesting against domestic violence, for which the present manager has a pending court case to establish his innocence or guilt. OK, if that's how you see it.
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Jan 17, 2022 14:43:27 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 14:43:27 GMT
I think he's doing a good job at Rovers. Bas, the bloke got us relegated!
We weren't in a relegation place when he arrived, we ended up bottom.What exactly would he need to do for you to think he wasn't doing 'a good job'? I wonder why they sacked Tisdale. Or Garner for that matter. As from where Dukey was watching everything presumably was jolly spiffing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 14:50:00 GMT
I think WAQs gamble on Joe Garner did'nt work and that led to our relegation.Fair play for having ago though.Don't forget who was managerwhen we droppedout of the EFL.I don't blame DC,but JW.DC did okay after that ay.š The ununited off the field staff ruined Paul Tisdales efforts. We now have a direction and a rudder because we have 1 Boss.It could of been Paul Tisdale but he was'nt given the power Joe has. This is the major difference.We now have a course and it seems all are singing from the JB song book. A team on and off the field. We could do with a new stadium of course,that should give WAQ the courage to support a promotion challenge to the 2nd tier. I think once promoted back to the 3rd tier (this or next time) we'll be in a better position to challenge for a place in the 2nd tier. The idea of having āone bossā for the football side of the club isnāt necessarily a bad one and itās ironic Bas that you were almost a lone voice championing Lennie Lawrence as āthat manā when many of us thought he was taking Rovers for a ride. Only later did we find out that Nick Higgs decided not to go along with Lennieās advice and there must have been something of a falling out because Lennie was made to work a notice period which was the reason he looked so grumpy and disinterested. In terms of character and managerial track record there was a case for Nick handing the football side over to Lennie but JB has no such qualities so I think surrendering total control to him was a reckless gamble made more out of desperation than rationality. At the half way stage of the season we are in 16th place and out of all cup competitions but many fans look up to the stars and carefully count the points to be gained from winning games in hand while other teams conveniently lose. They are somehow able to measure fitness levels and team spirit and confidently believe the barometer is rising. Having this mindset means being outplayed at home by Hartlepool but stealing a victory is naturally a clear sign of progress. We have been here so many times before and my thoughts go back ten years to when we beat Burton Albion 7-1 and Accrington Stanley 5-1 with Mark McGhee being described as the āstrong manā Rovers had been in desperate need of for years. We know how that ended up and we know where Burton and Accrington are now. Your usual patronising comments Swiss. Re fitness levels, can you tell us how many goals we scored in the last 15 mins of games last season, and also how many we have scored in the last 15 mins of games this season? You will find it makes interesting reading. But don't let those kind of facts get in the way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 14:57:02 GMT
Bas, the bloke got us relegated!
We weren't in a relegation place when he arrived, we ended up bottom.What exactly would he need to do for you to think he wasn't doing 'a good job'? I wonder why they sacked Tisdale. Or Garner for that matter. As from where Dukey was watching everything presumably was jolly spiffing. Garner should have gone sooner. Tisdale wasn't given either the time or the same support that Barton has enjoyed. Anyway, I would still like to know what actually happened with Coughlan, things were going rather well until he departed.
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Jan 17, 2022 15:44:05 GMT
Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 17, 2022 15:44:05 GMT
I wonder why they sacked Tisdale. Or Garner for that matter. As from where Dukey was watching everything presumably was jolly spiffing. Garner should have gone sooner. Tisdale wasn't given either the time or the same support that Barton has enjoyed. Anyway, I would still like to know what actually happened with Coughlan, things were going rather well until he departed. Match day attendances were low, given the place we were in and i think many were unhappy at the way we were playing and so he left before he got booted, thatās how i view it
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