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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 9, 2022 12:39:10 GMT
Did you hear Luke's post game chat? He was full of praise for his Boss and the coaching team on being asked about Joes public telling off. Great coaching and leadership to get Luke on the right track. Hopefully he'll have a very good 2nd half to the season. I think that's a fully-pumped interpretation of that interview bas eg 'full of praise' is a much more enthusiastic interpretation than mine and one swallow doesn't make a summer I'm thinking that the decision to keep him was on a knife-edge, and LT realised the realities of life and didn't fancy not having playing opportunities for the rest of the season. It's a marathon not a sprint. But it's a start. We'll see..
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Post by baselswh on Jan 9, 2022 13:10:11 GMT
Did you hear Luke's post game chat? He was full of praise for his Boss and the coaching team on being asked about Joes public telling off. Great coaching and leadership to get Luke on the right track. Hopefully he'll have a very good 2nd half to the season. I think that's a fully-pumped interpretation of that interview bas eg 'full of praise' is a much more enthusiastic interpretation than mine and one swallow doesn't make a summer I'm thinking that the decision to keep him was on a knife-edge, and LT realised the realities of life and didn't fancy not having playing opportunities for the rest of the season. It's a marathon not a sprint. But it's a start. We'll see.. LT said JBs public telling off was just what he needed,get his head out of his backside etc.He thanked all the people that had helped him.Admitted he had let people down. JB told the public what LT needed to do. You suggested it was violent. Since then LT has improved his attitude and performances. A happier player and fc. Pretending your JB critique is some kind of fair minded knowledgable football intellect, based on experience,is absolute rubbish. I'm afraid your stand on Rovers manager has seen your opinion on football lose credibility.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 9, 2022 13:15:54 GMT
I think that's a fully-pumped interpretation of that interview bas eg 'full of praise' is a much more enthusiastic interpretation than mine and one swallow doesn't make a summer I'm thinking that the decision to keep him was on a knife-edge, and LT realised the realities of life and didn't fancy not having playing opportunities for the rest of the season. It's a marathon not a sprint. But it's a start. We'll see.. LT said JBs public telling off was just what he needed,get his head out of his backside etc.He thanked all the people that had helped him.Admitted he had let people down. JB told the public what LT needed to do. You suggested it was violent. Since then LT has improved his attitude and performances. A happier player and fc. Pretending your JB critique is some kind of fair minded knowledgable football intellect, based on experience,is absolute rubbish. I'm afraid your stand on Rovers manager has seen your opinion on football lose credibility. 'You suggested it was violent.' - help me out here Bas, I've no idea what you're talking about? 'seen your opinion on football lose credibility' - I'm slightly comforted by the fact that you thought it had some before, though I'm mystified as to why 'Pretending your JB critique is some kind of fair minded knowledgable football intellect, based on experience,is absolute rubbish' - similar to the above, I'm a bit pleased that you imply that I have experience in football, to which I apply a fair-minded intellect. Lord knows why though. I'm chuckling as I type this to use one of your words, that post does seem to contain a lot of twaddle!
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Jan 9, 2022 13:49:41 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jan 9, 2022 13:49:41 GMT
Not sure how Barnsley will look at it either, or any other club that we look at loaning from. It never crossed my mind before that those prone to bouts of wanton violence would have the same issue with their mouth. I think you've picked the wood from the trees there better than Joeybag could do with a year to think it through
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Jan 9, 2022 13:50:58 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jan 9, 2022 13:50:58 GMT
LT said JBs public telling off was just what he needed,get his head out of his backside etc.He thanked all the people that had helped him.Admitted he had let people down. JB told the public what LT needed to do. You suggested it was violent. Since then LT has improved his attitude and performances. A happier player and fc. Pretending your JB critique is some kind of fair minded knowledgable football intellect, based on experience,is absolute rubbish. I'm afraid your stand on Rovers manager has seen your opinion on football lose credibility. 'You suggested it was violent.' - help me out here Bas, I've no idea what you're talking about? 'seen your opinion on football lose credibility' - I'm slightly comforted by the fact that you thought it had some before, though I'm mystified as to why 'Pretending your JB critique is some kind of fair minded knowledgable football intellect, based on experience,is absolute rubbish' - similar to the above, I'm a bit pleased that you imply that I have experience in football, to which I apply a fair-minded intellect. Lord knows why though. I'm chuckling as I type this to use one of your words, that post does seem to contain a lot of twaddle! You think you're being clever,but it's just nonsense.
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Jan 9, 2022 13:54:12 GMT
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 9, 2022 13:54:12 GMT
I think you've picked the wood from the trees there better than Joeybag could do with a year to think it through Just to clarify - that's where you think I said it was violent
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 9, 2022 13:56:35 GMT
'You suggested it was violent.' - help me out here Bas, I've no idea what you're talking about? 'seen your opinion on football lose credibility' - I'm slightly comforted by the fact that you thought it had some before, though I'm mystified as to why 'Pretending your JB critique is some kind of fair minded knowledgable football intellect, based on experience,is absolute rubbish' - similar to the above, I'm a bit pleased that you imply that I have experience in football, to which I apply a fair-minded intellect. Lord knows why though. I'm chuckling as I type this to use one of your words, that post does seem to contain a lot of twaddle! You think you're being clever,but it's just nonsense. You have no idea what I'm thinking, and to imply that you do suggests poor boundary recognition on your part
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jan 9, 2022 13:58:48 GMT
For those that haven't seen it: Paraphrased: ...fair play to the manager...it is working...something I desperately needed...get my head out of my backside...here to the end of the season...I hope that I can show Bristol Rovers what they actually brought me in for now...I feel like I'm in a really good place now, the best place I have been and it is a credit to the support that I have got from the gafferhis staff, my family and my teammates... Man management masterstroke by Barton?
We should also be encouraged [in respect of the second half of the season] by: Obviously I don't want to give too much away, but we should be positive, really positive...I think there are a lot of good things coming to Bristol...etc.
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Jan 9, 2022 14:00:51 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jan 9, 2022 14:00:51 GMT
For those that haven't seen it: Paraphrased: ...fair play to the manager...it is working...something I desperately needed...get my head out of my backside...here to the end of the season...I hope that I can show Bristol Rovers what they actually brought me in for now...I feel like I'm in a really good place now, the best place I have been and it is a credit to the support that I have got from the gafferhis staff, my family and my teammates... Man management masterstroke by Barton? Yes. Clearly. All evidence says so.
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Jan 9, 2022 14:02:48 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jan 9, 2022 14:02:48 GMT
You think you're being clever,but it's just nonsense. You have no idea what I'm thinking, and to imply that you do suggests poor boundary recognition on your part Haha! I don't care. I care about JB doing a good job helping LT to reach his potential.
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Jan 9, 2022 14:05:28 GMT
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 9, 2022 14:05:28 GMT
You have no idea what I'm thinking, and to imply that you do suggests poor boundary recognition on your part Haha! I don't care. Oh dear
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Post by laughinggas on Jan 9, 2022 15:27:39 GMT
You really expect him to say the manager got it wrong?
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jan 9, 2022 16:20:22 GMT
You really expect him to say the manager got it wrong? You don't think this was a genuine expression of his own thought?
He's bloody good actor, if so.
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Post by Bath Gas on Jan 9, 2022 16:54:26 GMT
For those that haven't seen it: Paraphrased: ...fair play to the manager...it is working...something I desperately needed...get my head out of my backside...here to the end of the season...I hope that I can show Bristol Rovers what they actually brought me in for now...I feel like I'm in a really good place now, the best place I have been and it is a credit to the support that I have got from the gafferhis staff, my family and my teammates... Man management masterstroke by Barton?
We should also be encouraged [in respect of the second half of the season] by: Obviously I don't want to give too much away, but we should be positive, really positive...I think there are a lot of good things coming to Bristol...etc.
They've obviously edited out Eddy Jennings, who apparently was behind Luke, holding a gun to the lad's head just to make sure that he gave the right answers. In future, never believe it if a player gives a positive answer to a question when interviewed - it's all lies whilst JB is at the helm.
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Post by The Concept on Jan 16, 2022 9:58:05 GMT
Yes, I heard it. I wouldn't describe it as full of praise though. Just agreed that it was what he needed. He replied to a question he was being asked - what else was he going to say? Always in this situation they aren't going to say: "I was really pissed off about it." Incorrigible. JB offered LT a way to succeed at Rovers and did it publicly. LT got his "head out of his backside",got his attitude right,worked harder and has seen his performances on the field of play improve. So we heard the theory from Joe. Luke did the practice. We see a happier improved player and fc. This apparently still not good enough? You're being abit daft imo. Incorrigible. I am sure you know it too Concept. Incorrigible? There is no reason for me to change my mind that it is a nasty, spiteful, vindictive thing to say things in public about a player such as " He’s not wired in, he’s never quite right and he thinks the world owes him a favour" ... " He came in with a big fanfare of the ability he could have, but constantly when trusted and given opportunities, he doesn’t maximise it" ... " Again, he probably thinks the world owes him something and he’s above the level...", and there is no reason for me to change my mind that it is unbecoming of a manager in any profession to say such thing in public, especially when it is known the member of staff has suffered from mental health problems. We see a happier improved player? Let's have a look at LT's appearances since JB's comments on 23/11/2021: 27/11/2021 - FGR away = bench ... substitute appearance on 75 minutes. 04/12/2021 - Sutton Utd home = bench. 07/12/2021 - Port Vale home = bench. 11/12/2021 - Rochdale home = bench ... substitute appearance on 87 minutes. 08/01/2022 - Peterborough away = started and played 90 +3 mins before substituted. 16/01/2022 - Hartlepools home = bench. So this improvement you talk of is based on 6 games which have seen just 18 minutes as a substitute, and 90 minutes in a game he started at a time the team was ravaged with suspension, injury, and players either recovering from or isolating with Covid-19, before going back to the bench again. And let's have a look some stats, as published by the Bristol Post back on 13/12/2021: Despite playing just 623 minutes in League Two, Thomas ranks fourth for key passes (a pass directly leading to a shot) in the Rovers squad with 14, behind first-team regulars Evans (35), Sam Finley (20) and Nicholson (19); as a result his per 90 average of 2.1 is only marginally below Evans' 2.4. Daft??
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 16, 2022 10:19:09 GMT
Incorrigible. JB offered LT a way to succeed at Rovers and did it publicly. LT got his "head out of his backside",got his attitude right,worked harder and has seen his performances on the field of play improve. So we heard the theory from Joe. Luke did the practice. We see a happier improved player and fc. This apparently still not good enough? You're being abit daft imo. Incorrigible. I am sure you know it too Concept. Incorrigible? There is no reason for me to change my mind that it is a nasty, spiteful, vindictive thing to say things in public about a player such as " He’s not wired in, he’s never quite right and he thinks the world owes him a favour" ... " He came in with a big fanfare of the ability he could have, but constantly when trusted and given opportunities, he doesn’t maximise it" ... " Again, he probably thinks the world owes him something and he’s above the level...", and there is no reason for me to change my mind that it is unbecoming of a manager in any profession to say such thing in public, especially when it is known the member of staff has suffered from mental health problems. We see a happier improved player? Let's have a look at LT's appearances since JB's comments on 23/11/2021: 27/11/2021 - FGR away = bench ... substitute appearance on 75 minutes. 04/12/2021 - Sutton Utd home = bench. 07/12/2021 - Port Vale home = bench. 11/12/2021 - Rochdale home = bench ... substitute appearance on 87 minutes. 08/01/2022 - Peterborough away = started and played 90 +3 mins before substituted. 16/01/2022 - Hartlepools home = bench. So this improvement you talk of is based on 6 games which have seen just 18 minutes as a substitute, and 90 minutes in a game he started at a time the team was ravaged with suspension, injury, and players either recovering from or isolating with Covid-19, before going back to the bench again. And let's have a look some stats, as published by the Bristol Post back on 13/12/2021: Despite playing just 623 minutes in League Two, Thomas ranks fourth for key passes (a pass directly leading to a shot) in the Rovers squad with 14, behind first-team regulars Evans (35), Sam Finley (20) and Nicholson (19); as a result his per 90 average of 2.1 is only marginally below Evans' 2.4. Daft?? you'll be rivalling Gasmacc for the title of poster who actually knows what they're talking about with stuff like that. Robust!
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Jan 16, 2022 14:37:16 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jan 16, 2022 14:37:16 GMT
Incorrigible. JB offered LT a way to succeed at Rovers and did it publicly. LT got his "head out of his backside",got his attitude right,worked harder and has seen his performances on the field of play improve. So we heard the theory from Joe. Luke did the practice. We see a happier improved player and fc. This apparently still not good enough? You're being abit daft imo. Incorrigible. I am sure you know it too Concept. Incorrigible? There is no reason for me to change my mind that it is a nasty, spiteful, vindictive thing to say things in public about a player such as " He’s not wired in, he’s never quite right and he thinks the world owes him a favour" ... " He came in with a big fanfare of the ability he could have, but constantly when trusted and given opportunities, he doesn’t maximise it" ... " Again, he probably thinks the world owes him something and he’s above the level...", and there is no reason for me to change my mind that it is unbecoming of a manager in any profession to say such thing in public, especially when it is known the member of staff has suffered from mental health problems. We see a happier improved player? Let's have a look at LT's appearances since JB's comments on 23/11/2021: 27/11/2021 - FGR away = bench ... substitute appearance on 75 minutes. 04/12/2021 - Sutton Utd home = bench. 07/12/2021 - Port Vale home = bench. 11/12/2021 - Rochdale home = bench ... substitute appearance on 87 minutes. 08/01/2022 - Peterborough away = started and played 90 +3 mins before substituted. 16/01/2022 - Hartlepools home = bench. So this improvement you talk of is based on 6 games which have seen just 18 minutes as a substitute, and 90 minutes in a game he started at a time the team was ravaged with suspension, injury, and players either recovering from or isolating with Covid-19, before going back to the bench again. And let's have a look some stats, as published by the Bristol Post back on 13/12/2021: Despite playing just 623 minutes in League Two, Thomas ranks fourth for key passes (a pass directly leading to a shot) in the Rovers squad with 14, behind first-team regulars Evans (35), Sam Finley (20) and Nicholson (19); as a result his per 90 average of 2.1 is only marginally below Evans' 2.4. Daft?? The player praised Joe and all who have helped him.He said it's what he needed,the public telling off etc. I'm going by what Luke said and the extra effort in his play in the the Dale game eg. I don't think it makes sense to be offended on his behalf,when he is'nt offended. No need to point to stats (oh and you forgot to mention training) ,to try and prove a situation that does'nt exist,does. We all heard what the manager said. We all heard what the player said. We saw him run his heart out. Good man management from Joe. Fair play to Luke for putting in the effort. That's it.🙂
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Post by Angas on Jan 16, 2022 16:22:01 GMT
Or maybe another game?
11/12/2021 - Rochdale home = bench ... substitute appearance on 87 minutes.
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Jan 16, 2022 16:29:29 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jan 16, 2022 16:29:29 GMT
Or maybe another game? 11/12/2021 - Rochdale home = bench ... substitute appearance on 87 minutes. I attended the Dale game,so I saw the effort Luke put in.
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Post by oldie on Jan 16, 2022 16:30:48 GMT
Or maybe another game? 11/12/2021 - Rochdale home = bench ... substitute appearance on 87 minutes. 😂😂😂 You couldnt make it up could you.
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