GasMacc1
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Post by GasMacc1 on Jan 15, 2019 10:34:18 GMT
In discussions arising after the match at Accrington, Laughinggas asked for the “twenty clubs we have played the most in league football”. Link to Accrington discussion
Of course, from 1920 to 1959, the third tier was split into North and South divisions, so it’s no surprise that the majority of the opponents are from Rovers’ side of that divide. Walsall, Notts County, Shrewsbury and Port Vale are the only clubs in the top 24 based north of Birmingham. Here’s the list of the top 24. (Source: soccerbase.com). Table: Most frequent league opponents, showing matches played against them.
| 1 | Southend | 105 | | 2 | Brighton | 102 | | 3 | Bournemouth | 100 | | 4 | Leyton Orient | 100 | | 5 | Walsall | 94 | | 6 | Gillingham | 93 | | 7 | Northampton | 92 | | 8 | Swindon | 90 | | 9 | Plymouth | 89 | | 10 | Watford | 84 | | 11 | Notts County | 84 | | 12 | Luton | 81 | | 13 | Reading | 80 | | 14 | Millwall | 80 | | 15 | Exeter | 78 | | 16 | Brentford | 74 | | 17 | Swansea | 72 | | 18 | Torquay United | 68 | | 19 | Newport | 60 | | 20 | Charlton | 59 | | 21 | Bristol City (pre-82) | 59 | | 22 | QPR | 58 | | 23 | Port Vale | 58 | | 24 | Shrewsbury | 57 |
Note 1: Naturally, I have kept Rovers record against Bristol City separate from that against BCFC (1982). We have played Bristol City 59 times in the League - the last match being our 1:0 home win on 29th December 1981 - and B*FC (1982) 29 times, the first match being our 2:1 away win on 12 April 1982. Note 2: The records for Newport are the old Newport County. We’ve only played the current outfit four times. Note 3: The table includes Football League matches and the one season in the Conference (i.e. from 1920). It omits games in the Southern League, and any wartime matches. |
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 15, 2019 12:29:27 GMT
Good work GassMacc1. I particularly like the note about the sh*t. It never fails to wind them up.
"They've got no history". Well it's certainly very limited, I put them in a bracket of contempt alongside MK Dons.
Also being Essex based - I am pretty sure I have seen Southend more than any other Club we have played...
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jan 15, 2019 12:50:03 GMT
Good work GassMacc1. I particularly like the note about the sh*t. It never fails to wind them up. "They've got no history". Well it's certainly very limited, I put them in a bracket of contempt alongside MK Dons. Also being Essex based - I am pretty sure I have seen Southend more than any other Club we have played... Have we ever actually won at Roots Hall?? Can’t recall a single win there, at all, let alone in recent times. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 12:55:49 GMT
We last won there about 10 years ago. Saying that, we don't lose often at Roots Hall these days, we just draw.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 13:05:05 GMT
We last won there about 10 years ago. Saying that, we don't lose often at Roots Hall these days, we just draw. 2012 - 1-0 Rovers, Matt Harrold penalty.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 15:05:19 GMT
We last won there about 10 years ago. Saying that, we don't lose often at Roots Hall these days, we just draw. 2012 - 1-0 Rovers, Matt Harrold penalty.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 15:12:22 GMT
2012 - 1-0 Rovers, Matt Harrold penalty.
That's about 10 years, you pedant. A clear and obvious disparity of 30%, simple mathematics Dr.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jan 15, 2019 15:19:16 GMT
Twice since 1984 apparently.
Superb.
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Post by jets4 on Jan 15, 2019 16:23:18 GMT
Thanks GassMac1. Call me Mr Picky, but, is there a reason why we've played Swindon on an odd number of occasions.
If we've played them twice each season that we've been in the same division, then, presumably it should be an even number of games.
Also, have you taken into account the few games that were played just before war broke out in 1939 ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 16:39:32 GMT
Call me Mr Picky, but, is there a reason why we've played Swindon on an odd number of occasions. If we've played them twice each season that we've been in the same division, then, presumably it should be an even number of games. Cup?
Edit: or maybe the Rain Game.
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Post by harrybuckle on Jan 15, 2019 18:19:16 GMT
Call me Mr Picky, but, is there a reason why we've played Swindon on an odd number of occasions. If we've played them twice each season that we've been in the same division, then, presumably it should be an even number of games. Cup?
Edit: or maybe the Rain Game.
Abandoned games not included in any records Who remembers that monsoon game against Oxford at Eastville when were winning 1-0 and pitch was unplayable and that Hartlepool match started and ice skating commenced and ref puled the players off in the last Century |
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Post by dido on Jan 15, 2019 18:29:03 GMT
ref puled the players off
Wot? All 22! |
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Post by harrybuckle on Jan 15, 2019 18:42:42 GMT
LEAVE MEANS LEAVE AND BREXIT MEANS BREXIT
Theresa May has been thrown a major lifeline.. apparently Diane Abbott is involved with counting the votes tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 18:51:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 19:19:40 GMT
Thanks GassMac1. Call me Mr Picky, but, is there a reason why we've played Swindon on an odd number of occasions. If we've played them twice each season that we've been in the same division, then, presumably it should be an even number of games. Also, have you taken into account the few games that were played just before war broke out in 1939 ? Here you go, use the link, then scroll down to the 1991 / 92 season, for some reason there is only 1 result entered for that year? Results Vs Swindon |
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Post by trymer on Jan 15, 2019 20:36:03 GMT
Thanks GassMac1. Call me Mr Picky, but, is there a reason why we've played Swindon on an odd number of occasions. If we've played them twice each season that we've been in the same division, then, presumably it should be an even number of games. Also, have you taken into account the few games that were played just before war broke out in 1939 ? Here you go, use the link, then scroll down to the 1991 / 92 season, for some reason there is only 1 result entered for that year? Results Vs SwindonDid Rovers play Swindon at AG ? |
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GasMacc1
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Post by GasMacc1 on Jan 15, 2019 20:49:55 GMT
Good spot, Jets4. I think it's just a mistake in Soccerbase.
Rovers played at Swindon in September 1991, losing 1-0. [Source: "Bristol Rovers The Official Definitive History". S Byrne and M Jay].
Sorry for carrying it through into the table...I should have checked it! Updated now.
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Post by jets4 on Jan 15, 2019 21:50:35 GMT
Thanks GasMacc1, I'm a bit OCD about this sort of thing !
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 15, 2019 23:13:17 GMT
In a moment of excel based boredom... I was testing the theory that over time it's the average home attendance which tends to drive the 'natural' position in the league tables. Digging back to 1921 - it would appear the Gas have an average home league gate of 9,686. This ranks us (by my own calculations) as 52nd. The "ultimate 50 year table" from Sky ranks us as 55th. So pretty close correlation. (Though obviously different time periods, a serious statto would rip me to shreds). There are a lot of problems with the methodology though. A lot of the 'smaller' Clubs have a very potted history. I tended to ignore data from below tier 6 (though not always). Found some odd stuff. Ipswich were only elected to the league in 1938. Didn't know that. I ranked 114 Clubs based on the current top 5 divisions plus Conference N & S. Data from here: www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/englandcontent.htmAnyway - for stattos out there - here is the full list. Which is probably full of holes. Man Utd 46.412 Arsenal 39.600 Liverpool 38.821 Newcastle 35.443 Everton 35.025 Spurs 34.725 Man City 33.321 Chelsea 32.889 A Villa 31.327 Sunderland 29.302 Leeds 25.743 West Ham 25.544 Wolves 23.935 Shef Wed 23.393 B’ham 22.230 Leicester 21.794 West Brom 21.682 M’brough 21.112 Derby 20.754 Sheff Utd 20.569 N Forest 20.186 Stoke 18.911 Bolton 18.641 Southampton 18.407 Ipswich 17.922 Norwich 17.854 Blackburn 17.418 Portsmouth 17.357 Coventry 17.109 Fulham 16.461 C Palace 16.182 Burnley 15.924 Charlton 15.703 Cardiff 15.293 Preston 14.666 s**t 14.007 Huddersfield 13.901 QPR 13.511 Hull 12.663 Blackpool 12.375 Millwall 12.268 Plymouth 12.249 Brighton 12.108 Watford 11.347 Swansea 11.158 Reading 10.555 Luton 10.510 Notts Cty 10.326 Barnsley 10.106 Bradford 10.071 Brentford 9.726 The Gas 9.686 Swindon 9.226 Oldham 8.876 Wigan 8.344 Grimsby 8.309 MK Dons 8.218 Bradford PA 8.143 Orient 8.080 Port Vale 7.700 Bury 7.385 Rotherham 7.373 AFC Bournemouth 7.293 Doncaster 7.160 Oxford 7.016 Southend 6.818 N’ton 6.742 Chesterfield 6.566 Carlisle 6.476 Gillingham 6.351 Walsall 6.314 Tranmere 6.293 Stockport 6.258 Wimbledon 6.247 Peterbrough 6.176 Lincoln 5.983 Wrexham 5.754 Newport 5.423 Mansfield 5.419 Shrewsbury 5.303 Exeter 5.135 Scunthorpe 4.822 Crewe 4.661 York 4.639 Colchester 4.594 Wycombe 4.547 Gateshead 4.306 Hartlepool 4.192 Chester 4.130 Torquay 4.059 Aldershot 4.005 Cambridge 3.966 Accrington 3.950 Darlington 3.903 Halifax 3.895 Rochdale 3.748 Barrow 3.375 Hereford 3.253 Yeovil 3.232 Southport 3.171 Cheltenham 2.910 Stevenage 2.434 Burton 2.365 Crawley 2.180 Fleetwood 2.069 Barnet 2.027 Kidderminster 1.869 Macclesfield 1.782 Morecambe 1.729 Boston 1.468 D&R 1.399 Maidstone 1.398 FGR 1.180 Gainsborough 0.427 |
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 16, 2019 10:01:03 GMT
Good one epping. Surprised that Accrington are higher than a couple. Before they went out of the league in 60s perhaps they had 3000-4000 at their old Peel Park. Certainly since they came back in haven’t had much more than 3000.
UTG!
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