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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 14:47:16 GMT
Or Jim could just do his job? Anyway, we didn't get a first vote on the sale of 199, if we did, and had it been won by well over a million votes, I would say he had a clear mandate to sell. But no doubt some would demand that we keep voting until they get the result they want. I thought all members were invited to vote I cant understand why you weren't can you No, nobody was consulted before the decision to sell 199 was made. That arrogant leadership is a good advert against recruitment.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 14:50:05 GMT
Strange isn't it seems that those who are concerned about what the members are or are not told or consulTed on are actually not even members. Bit like the man from weston super mare when regularly writes into the evening post complaining about what bristol council are doing As said many times, if Jim did his job we wouldn't need these discussions. Do you want the part quoted from the SC constitution (yet again) where it states that they will represent all supporters, members or otherwise?
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Post by harrybuckle on Sept 23, 2018 15:46:46 GMT
Seems the nonmembers are more interested in recruiting non members than existing apathetic current members. As Groucho Marx famously said I refuse to join any Club that would have me as a member
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 16:13:36 GMT
You do realise there is a yearly subscription Wow. Really? Did you answers questions on the patently obvious on Mastermind? Yes thanks, fully aware. I spoke to someone yesterday who's sorting it out for me. So genius if you had done that in August you would have your card a while ago and not come on here bleating about something you should have done back them. Just a moan for the sake of it
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 16:16:02 GMT
Seems the nonmembers are more interested in recruiting non members than existing apathetic current members. As Groucho Marx famously said I refuse to join any Club that would have me as a member Seems they just like to sound important pontificating about something they have no intention of being a member. Easy isn't it I can do better but not brave enough to put myself forward to do it brigade
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 16:31:37 GMT
Wow. Really? Did you answers questions on the patently obvious on Mastermind? Yes thanks, fully aware. I spoke to someone yesterday who's sorting it out for me. So genius if you had done that in August you would have your card a while ago and not come on here bleating about something you should have done back them. Just a moan for the sake of it I did, you genius and then forgot about it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 16:40:31 GMT
So genius if you had done that in August you would have your card a while ago and not come on here bleating about something you should have done back them. Just a moan for the sake of it I did, you genius and then forgot about it. So until today it wasn't important enough for you to do anything about it.the mind boggles
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 16:43:24 GMT
I did, you genius and then forgot about it. So until today it wasn't important enough for you to do anything about it.the mind boggles Yesterday. More important things to think about. Have fun boggling, old fruit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 16:51:02 GMT
So until today it wasn't important enough for you to do anything about it.the mind boggles Yesterday. More important things to think about. Have fun boggling, old fruit. So the membership cards wasn't important at all then just an excuse.sad really
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 16:53:47 GMT
Yesterday. More important things to think about. Have fun boggling, old fruit. So the membership cards wasn't important at all then just an excuse.sad really Don't be sad. You live in a beautiful part of the country. Enjoy it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 17:25:06 GMT
So the membership cards wasn't important at all then just an excuse.sad really Don't be sad. You live in a beautiful part of the country. Enjoy it. I know that the only trouble is all the grockles or emmets that flock there in spring and summer. I am always happy there wouldn't live Inear bristol again if I was paid
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Post by Angas on Sept 23, 2018 17:59:31 GMT
Strange isn't it seems that those who are concerned about what the members are or are not told or consulTed on are actually not even members. Bit like the man from weston super mare when regularly writes into the evening post complaining about what bristol council are doing No concern particularly on my part, I was just questioning your assertion that members were consulted. I suspect even if they had been, those who did vote would have gone along with whatever the committee recommended. But then, on that basis, why would the committee not put it to the vote? That is a bit of a puzzle.
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Post by Angas on Sept 23, 2018 18:07:17 GMT
Seems the nonmembers are more interested in recruiting non members than existing apathetic current members. As Groucho Marx famously said I refuse to join any Club that would have me as a member Seems they just like to sound important pontificating about something they have no intention of being a member. Easy isn't it I can do better but not brave enough to put myself forward to do it brigade And I say it again ... Most of 'them' have been there and done it. To do it again? - I suspect, with the wisdom of experience, they'd counter your 'brave' with 'foolish'.
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Post by The Concept on Sept 23, 2018 18:16:23 GMT
surely the bar is run by volunteers and any profits from said bar go to the football club so theoretically the sc is paying for its use. what does amuse me is that most if not all of the criticism of the sc comes from those who are not members so in all honesty if we members vote to maintain the status quo that is our decision and the only way non members can change it is to join What about us members who still haven't received this year's membership card and never get any communication? An apology in the Supporters Club programme notes yesterday, about delays in sending out membership cards. They have been meeting with CEO Martyn Starnes to try to resolve problems they are experiencing. With the Kingswood shop now closed, and currently not permitted to take membership and coach bookings in the bar, they are limited in options. At the moment they rely on the club's Superstore, or the Supporters Club matchday cabin, to take bookings. The main problem seems to be that: "It was intended that we would use the Football Club's BOSS system which would have enabled Sam Parsons, our Membership Secretary, to keep track on those joining but, for technical reasons we understand, this has not proved possible, hence long delays in sending out cards to members and for this we apologise."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 8:18:24 GMT
Seems they just like to sound important pontificating about something they have no intention of being a member. Easy isn't it I can do better but not brave enough to put myself forward to do it brigade And I say it again ... Most of 'them' have been there and done it. To do it again? - I suspect, with the wisdom of experience, they'd counter your 'brave' with 'foolish'. 2006 wasn't it and the rafc. Never had a prayer because all you did was tell people what had to be done not try to show them how they could effect change.it was a small group of activists who had little idea how to relate to the rank and file .
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Post by Angas on Sept 24, 2018 9:33:55 GMT
And I say it again ... Most of 'them' have been there and done it. To do it again? - I suspect, with the wisdom of experience, they'd counter your 'brave' with 'foolish'. 2006 wasn't it and the rafc. Never had a prayer because all you did was tell people what had to be done not try to show them how they could effect change.it was a small group of activists who had little idea how to relate to the rank and file . It was prior to then. 2006 was, from memory, when realisation finally dawned and anyway was about the FC not the SC. With respect, as you have said you weren't active within the SC at the time, you can't speak with any authority on who attempted to do what and how it was received. That would be like me disagreeing with your assessment of players on Saturday.
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 24, 2018 10:03:18 GMT
And I say it again ... Most of 'them' have been there and done it. To do it again? - I suspect, with the wisdom of experience, they'd counter your 'brave' with 'foolish'. 2006 wasn't it and the rafc. Never had a prayer because all you did was tell people what had to be done not try to show them how they could effect change.it was a small group of activists who had little idea how to relate to the rank and file . you can go back a few years further. There were efforts to change the SC constitution from the inside, I can't remember what was, or wasn't taken on through to the Share Scheme and it's inception and there was certainly calls about the SC understanding what they were taking on
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 10:06:24 GMT
2006 wasn't it and the rafc. Never had a prayer because all you did was tell people what had to be done not try to show them how they could effect change.it was a small group of activists who had little idea how to relate to the rank and file . It was prior to then. 2006 was, from memory, when realisation finally dawned and anyway was about the FC not the SC. With respect, as you have said you weren't active within the SC at the time, you can't speak with any authority on who attempted to do what and how it was received. That would be like me disagreeing with your assessment of players on Saturday. But correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the Chairman of the sc one of those advocating the agenda for change and even he couldn't get what your friends or colleagues wanted
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Post by Angas on Sept 24, 2018 10:31:25 GMT
As I say, I think you're confusing the FC issues with earlier events relating to the SC. I'm off out now. I'll leave PP to correct you on details. His memory is probably better than mine anyway.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Sept 24, 2018 13:46:26 GMT
It was prior to then. 2006 was, from memory, when realisation finally dawned and anyway was about the FC not the SC. With respect, as you have said you weren't active within the SC at the time, you can't speak with any authority on who attempted to do what and how it was received. That would be like me disagreeing with your assessment of players on Saturday. But correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the Chairman of the sc one of those advocating the agenda for change and even he couldn't get what your friends or colleagues wanted i was fortunate enough to be in attendance at the meeting where the former directors went through the Rafc document with support groups. The chairman of the Supporters Club was also there - Jim Chappel. Indeed one of the SC representatives was openly hostile before as much as a page was opened, his behaviour that evening was shameful. I would argue that it was the lack of SC backing, and indeed their loyalty to then Box 1, which meant that the Agenda got Change was never adopted by the majority of the fan base. Quite ironic when you see the similarities with those now openly aggressive to the current regime.
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