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Post by a more piratey game on May 20, 2018 17:30:05 GMT
the group that took a collective decision to leave this forum that sounds like a very weird concept to me. Makes no sense whatsoever IMO
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 20, 2018 17:47:40 GMT
For the avoidance of any doubt, my decision to stop posting is purely part of me taking a step back and getting out of the mindset of a "diehard" supporter as parental responsibility kicks in. It's not a permanent thing, not part of any coordinated action and purely a personal and individual decision. When the football starts again I'm sure I'll be back. Nice to hear from you. I wasn’t actually counting you as one of the collective and, as I’m aware, I have never met you but I have always enjoyed your posts and ability not to just go along with everyone else, I see that as the easy option. It takes a person of strong character to not swim with the safety of the shoal. Anyway, I will quit there before I go into one of my overly long posts. As I said, really good to see you posting again wishing you a great summer.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 20, 2018 17:49:32 GMT
I have not posted because there has been nothing to moan about. Young Mr Grace. Hi vaughan. Did you ever get anywhere with the stuff you were looking to present to Steve Hamer of have you already covered this elsewhere and I just haven’t seen it please ?
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Post by vaughan on May 20, 2018 18:07:03 GMT
My only revelation on the Rovers front is that I have it on good authority that it was a gentleman called Sam Sparrow who picked up the corner flag against Southampton in 1978.
Sam - where are you?
We need to track him down, ask for the truth and then put him on a lie detector.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 18:52:55 GMT
My only revelation on the Rovers front is that I have it on good authority that it was a gentleman called Sam Sparrow who picked up the corner flag against Southampton in 1978. Sam - where are you? We need to track him down, ask for the truth and then put him on a lie detector. It was indeed the stuttering Sam. Alas he hasn’t been the same since he fell off a wall backwards at Twerton Park.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 19:03:49 GMT
Well that went well for me. Good to hear from the Swiss, the Latvian, the Vaughan, etc. Respect for your reasons for absences. But glad you're all still lurking and popping up sometimes. As for the owners: I don't really know. The vast majority of us don't really know. That's why we read both sides of the argument. Be interesting to see how good the family stand does (or doesn't) look. Not impressed by the Bristol Post fake news that so irked our dear Polak.
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Post by vaughan on May 20, 2018 19:11:39 GMT
Thanks for info on Sam Sparrow.
Is he in fit state to testify?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 19:14:05 GMT
Thanks for info on Sam Sparrow. Is he in fit state to testify? Last seen alive and well in WSM.
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Post by a more piratey game on May 20, 2018 19:14:07 GMT
The reason that I get hacked off with the sort of comments like your original one is that for many people it is a trait that has only happened in the past couple of years, when these same people were telling people like myself who weren’t silent to do the same when Higgs and, yes, Geoff Dunford were running the club as what seemed to be a personal fiefdom. Some of the Facebook comments especially have started to become beyond vile from a few people. The biggest irony for me is that football wise the last couple of years have been amonst the best in my 40 years of going, especially with regards to the style of football. To me it all seems like rank hypocrisy as the Al Qadis and board are trying to turn the club from a corner shop operation into a structure fit for purpose in the 21st Century, and in the space of about 26 months. Yes, the UWE stadium collapsing was a body blow to us all, but none of us have real information as to the reasons why, so just make up our own conjecture. There are two sides to every story and I’m inclined to believe that there probably wasn’t enough non matchday earning potential and that we would have ended up with a scenario similar to Eastville, where UWE would have trousered any income from hospitality during the week and the like. You only have to see how much Ashton Gate makes through this nowadays to realise that this is a valuable income stream to be successful. Do I think that the current regime are perfect? Far from it, but there have been enough ‘marginal gains’ to keep me happy for now. Putting a proper seated facility in for families falls under this category. Along with other acquaintances I will give them another year to deliver something tangible in terms of stadium development, as without that progression will ultimately be non existent. But I’m not going to start sniping because of something that is ultimately a good thing in the here and now. a lucid and cogent explanation of 'the other side of the argument' compared with swiss' IMO both are good reads
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Post by a more piratey game on May 20, 2018 19:15:19 GMT
The reason that I get hacked off with the sort of comments like your original one is that for many people it is a trait that has only happened in the past couple of years, when these same people were telling people like myself who weren’t silent to do the same when Higgs and, yes, Geoff Dunford were running the club as what seemed to be a personal fiefdom. Some of the Facebook comments especially have started to become beyond vile from a few people. The biggest irony for me is that football wise the last couple of years have been amonst the best in my 40 years of going, especially with regards to the style of football. To me it all seems like rank hypocrisy as the Al Qadis and board are trying to turn the club from a corner shop operation into a structure fit for purpose in the 21st Century, and in the space of about 26 months. Yes, the UWE stadium collapsing was a body blow to us all, but none of us have real information as to the reasons why, so just make up our own conjecture. There are two sides to every story and I’m inclined to believe that there probably wasn’t enough non matchday earning potential and that we would have ended up with a scenario similar to Eastville, where UWE would have trousered any income from hospitality during the week and the like. You only have to see how much Ashton Gate makes through this nowadays to realise that this is a valuable income stream to be successful. Do I think that the current regime are perfect? Far from it, but there have been enough ‘marginal gains’ to keep me happy for now. Putting a proper seated facility in for families falls under this category. Along with other acquaintances I will give them another year to deliver something tangible in terms of stadium development, as without that progression will ultimately be non existent. But I’m not going to start sniping because of something that is ultimately a good thing in the here and now. a lucid and cogent explanation of 'the other side of the argument' compared with swiss' IMO both are good reads PS I hope swiss is wrong (not logically, but factually with some of his best guesses) - but so does he! It seems we'll just have to see...
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 19:24:38 GMT
The reason that I get ... a good thing in the here and now. a lucid and cogent explanation of 'the other side of the argument' compared with swiss' IMO both are good reads AMPG's got the nail on the head there. Good parenting may excuse our Baltic friend from such frequent correspondence. Offence chosen at our Swiss friend's argument or analysis is not a good enough reason. Sorry swissgas . You are not excused from the Guzzler.
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Post by fanatical on May 20, 2018 19:39:59 GMT
a lucid and cogent explanation of 'the other side of the argument' compared with swiss' IMO both are good reads AMPG's got the nail on the head there. Good parenting may excuse our Baltic friend from such frequent correspondence. Offence chosen at our Swiss friend's argument or analysis is not a good enough reason. Sorry swissgas . You are not excused from the Guzzler. I think Swissgas talks good sense but is wrong some of the time - which will become evident in the fullness of time.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 19:51:27 GMT
Thanks for info on Sam Sparrow. Is he in fit state to testify? This is him. Nah, Sammy is a tank.
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Post by swissgas on May 20, 2018 20:36:48 GMT
a lucid and cogent explanation of 'the other side of the argument' compared with swiss' IMO both are good reads PS I hope swiss is wrong (not logically, but factually with some of his best guesses) - but so does he! It seems we'll just have to see... We all keep hoping ampg but as time goes by the evidence mounts for the case that the owners have no vision or plan. In the three interviews since last August Wael has, IMO, given us much genial waffle but hardly any substance. It seems likely to me that the initiatives we have seen are the work of Steve Hamer, Steve Brookfield, Tom Gorringe and Darrell Clarke who are trying their best to stay positive and have asked for and received approval from the owners for the minor improvements which they know are needed as a minimum to keep the show on the road. We hear nothing about the major developments which will cost many millions and again, IMO, that is because without a large injection of cash those developments cannot take place. Wael has said that for every one who criticises the owners there are a hundred fans who have faith in them. Nick Higgs could probably have said the same thing and he also chose to keep his plans under wraps and hide behind a veil of secrecy and confidentiality agreements. But when the fog lifted we discovered that apparently Rovers had been only minutes from bankruptcy when Dwane Sports took over so the faith which those "hundreds" of fans had placed in Nick and his wall of silence was actually misplaced. We have to learn a lesson from that and so does Wael. I'm not going to paste the text from this link but for anyone interested please take a look at the update from Hearts FC and explain why Wael cannot provide something similar for Gasheads. www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6600
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Post by GasMacc1 on May 21, 2018 6:56:44 GMT
PS I hope swiss is wrong (not logically, but factually with some of his best guesses) - but so does he! It seems we'll just have to see... ... I'm not going to paste the text from this link but for anyone interested please take a look at the update from Hearts FC and explain why Wael cannot provide something similar for Gasheads. www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6600Yes, it's a very open and detailed "update on where we are against plans", written by Ann Budge, the chairwoman of Hearts, in March this year. On the frequency of reporting, she wrote: "I find it hard to believe it is now 6 months since I gave a full briefing – albeit, I hope our regular updates on specifics have ensured the big picture continues to be well understood". Wael could copy and paste much of the content, remembering to replace Hearts with Rovers: "On the pitch - great things, a few disappointments...demonstrable success of our Academy, youth programmes, coaching methods, scouting arrangements...we will continue to invest in [our training ground]...pitch challenges, re-turfed 15 months ago, tendering underway, new drainage, new water systems, new undersoil heating will not come cheap. This is one of the reasons we have launched our Season Ticket campaign early this year"."We have tried to hold season ticket price increases to a minimum...New main stand developments continue apace...renew early; we seek your backing!"."Stadium [main stand] development: power supply, kiosks, kitchen, painting, toilets, control room, TC studio, supporters bar and coffee shop, retail shop and ticket office. I will not give actual dates here as we know from experience that delays can happen. That said, we will keep you fully briefed over the next few weeks. Suffice to say, the target dates are tight! "Other projects - community work...heritage tour"."Financial summary - we anticipate growing our turnover, once again, by approximately £1 million. We also anticipate achieving a break-even position, which is no mean achievement, given the challenges we have faced in the last year...need to manage cash flow carefully".
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Post by eppinggas on May 21, 2018 9:13:28 GMT
I have not posted because there has been nothing to moan about. Young Mr Grace. If I remember (and I stand to be corrected) - you were once frustrated and critical of the new regime. You wanted to do "something" about it. You now have "nothing to moan about". What prompted your enlightenment? What happened on the Road to Damascus? Or did Steve Hamer threaten to send the boys round? :-)
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Post by vaughan on May 21, 2018 9:30:03 GMT
The owners are here for the long haul.
Armageddon in March did not materialise.
Look for the positives and thy shall find.
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Post by trunky on May 21, 2018 10:10:26 GMT
For those of our fans who still seriously believe that our owners have the slightest intention of redeveloping the mem could you please meet on the city centre at 8.00pm tonight and I will send a big white van to pick you up and take you to the nearest lunatic asylum.
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Post by Peter Parker on May 21, 2018 10:19:59 GMT
For those of our fans who still seriously believe that our owners have the slightest intention of redeveloping the mem could you please meet on the city centre at 8.00pm tonight and I will send a big white van to pick you up and take you to the nearest lunatic asylum. I don't know whether they intend to redevelop the Mem or not
However they do appear to be spending money on things, why bother unless they don't intend to hang around.
All I know is we would have seen nothing happen with the backroom staff, or the tarting up of The Mem or the 'Temporary' improvements under the last regime
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Post by crater on May 21, 2018 10:31:16 GMT
If plans were released today for a new stadium or a revamped Mem, it would be met by some with their standard "I'll believe it when I see it" response.
oppotmisim over scepticism (learnt that from the Rev Michael Curry)
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