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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 24, 2017 8:27:50 GMT
Ian Holtby not hosting matchday hospitality. Seems to have upset a few
Anyone know why?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 9:48:02 GMT
the one thing our club excels at and we move the bloke responsible, fkin nuts
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 10:20:00 GMT
No idea if it's true, but someone said that Holts had been moved out of his office.
What exactly has he done to upset anyone?
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 24, 2017 10:57:52 GMT
If you applied for the role of Stadium Manager, would you honestly expect "acting as MC in hospitality on match days" to be part of the job description?
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 24, 2017 11:03:23 GMT
If you applied for the role of Stadium Manager, would you honestly expect "acting as MC in hospitality on match days" to be part of the job description? I dont know if Ian Holtby is a good match day host or not, but like you I asse he is still stadium manager and would have thought managing the stadium on a match day would be his job |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 11:09:45 GMT
If you applied for the role of Stadium Manager, would you honestly expect "acting as MC in hospitality on match days" to be part of the job description? To be brutally honest, Ian Holtby is frigging good at doing it and if what's being suggested here is correct, has been removed. I just hope he's on holiday or maybe away for another reason and will soon be back. Contrast that to our PA man, formulaic, boring, repetitive, doesn't seem to care that the material / music hasn't changed in 20 years. I know which of the two I would change. |
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Post by DudeLebowski on Sept 24, 2017 12:35:14 GMT
Couldn't care less to be honest.
The 'Bring back Holtby' Facebook pages & seeing people actively encouraging others to cancel their hospitality days in order to 'hurt the club' is entertaining though.
We lack a lot of things at this club, but dummy spitters isn't one of them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 13:06:16 GMT
Couldn't care less to be honest. The 'Bring back Holtby' Facebook pages & seeing people actively encouraging others to cancel their hospitality days in order to 'hurt the club' is entertaining though. We lack a lot of things at this club, but dummy spitters isn't one of them.
UTG No, we have plenty of those. If he's done something serious wrong or has been upgraded then so be it, things do move on, but there's a right and a wrong way to go about things. But let's be clear about this, it's not some kind of personal 'love in' with Holts, he can be an abrasive little bloke at times, but when our club was absolutely on its arse he still sold the buffet / hospitality thing out for just about every game, he filled most of the boxes for every game and he sold advertising in a stadium that was about as much fun to be in as attending the funeral of someone you didn't like. If it's time for both Holts and Rovers to move on then it should be a gradual transition, not just him vanishing in the middle of the night, he deserves better than that, doesn't he? Hopefully this is all irrelevant, he's just off on holiday and normal service will be resumed shortly. |
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 24, 2017 13:32:04 GMT
Couldn't care less to be honest. The 'Bring back Holtby' Facebook pages & seeing people actively encouraging others to cancel their hospitality days in order to 'hurt the club' is entertaining though. We lack a lot of things at this club, but dummy spitters isn't one of them.
UTG No, we have plenty of those. If he's done something serious wrong or has been upgraded then so be it, things do move on, but there's a right and a wrong way to go about things. But let's be clear about this, it's not some kind of personal 'love in' with Holts, he can be an abrasive little bloke at times, but when our club was absolutely on its arse he still sold the buffet / hospitality thing out for just about every game, he filled most of the boxes for every game and he sold advertising in a stadium that was about as much fun to be in as attending the funeral of someone you didn't like. If it's time for both Holts and Rovers to move on then it should be a gradual transition, not just him vanishing in the middle of the night, he deserves better than that, doesn't he? Hopefully this is all irrelevant, he's just off on holiday and normal service will be resumed shortly. He was at the game. Stadium managing presumably It seems he was removed from being host for hospitality yesterday. Who knows if it was a trial, or what but some (not you) shouting off without knowing facts. Maybe this is something they will try doesnt work out and will change back. Maybe there are other factors. If the new commercial director has come in ruffled a few feathers, thats not a bad thing necessarily when we complain about the club being tinpot |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 13:52:16 GMT
No, we have plenty of those. If he's done something serious wrong or has been upgraded then so be it, things do move on, but there's a right and a wrong way to go about things. But let's be clear about this, it's not some kind of personal 'love in' with Holts, he can be an abrasive little bloke at times, but when our club was absolutely on its arse he still sold the buffet / hospitality thing out for just about every game, he filled most of the boxes for every game and he sold advertising in a stadium that was about as much fun to be in as attending the funeral of someone you didn't like. If it's time for both Holts and Rovers to move on then it should be a gradual transition, not just him vanishing in the middle of the night, he deserves better than that, doesn't he? Hopefully this is all irrelevant, he's just off on holiday and normal service will be resumed shortly. He was at the game. Stadium managing presumably It seems he was removed from being host for hospitality yesterday. Who knows if it was a trial, or what but some (not you) shouting off without knowing facts. Maybe this is something they will try doesnt work out and will change back. Maybe there are other factors. If the new commercial director has come in ruffled a few feathers, thats not a bad thing necessarily when we complain about the club being tinpot Raises an interesting point. Bit long winded, you may think Irish has hacked my account, but here goes. If, and based on what Swiss is saying it's a huge if, the new owners do get us into some kind of modern stadium and they modernise things like our hospitality, we'll find that everything we are comfortable with and know will change, not only will the staff all change but they'll look the attract different clients in the hospitality areas as well. We've all been to PL stadiums, the programme sellers come from agencies, the shop staff don't know any of the customers, strict dress code in the higher levels of hospitality, that's what a top club is like today, the quarters will probably remain (unless some marketing genius decides we'll make more money from the Asia market if the shirts are red), nothing else will be the same though. I can't quite get my head around if I would rather stick with what I know and have known all my life, or watch a marketing exercise being played out in blue and white quarters? |
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 24, 2017 14:46:43 GMT
If you applied for the role of Stadium Manager, would you honestly expect "acting as MC in hospitality on match days" to be part of the job description? To be brutally honest, Ian Holtby is frigging good at doing it and if what's being suggested here is correct, has been removed. I just hope he's on holiday or maybe away for another reason and will soon be back. Contrast that to our PA man, formulaic, boring, repetitive, doesn't seem to care that the material / music hasn't changed in 20 years. I know which of the two I would change. It wasn't a criticism of IH - just an observation that, maybe in a new business model of how we do things, the MC role is not commensurate with how they see the Stadium Manager role. I believe that our PA man is a volunteer, not a paid member of staff? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 14:54:30 GMT
To be brutally honest, Ian Holtby is frigging good at doing it and if what's being suggested here is correct, has been removed. I just hope he's on holiday or maybe away for another reason and will soon be back. Contrast that to our PA man, formulaic, boring, repetitive, doesn't seem to care that the material / music hasn't changed in 20 years. I know which of the two I would change. It wasn't a criticism of IH - just an observation that, maybe in a new business model of how we do things, the MC role is not commensurate with how they see the Stadium Manager role. I believe that our PA man is a volunteer, not a paid member of staff? I don't know what benefits Nick Day receives other than, I presume, entry for himself and his boy and a space in the car park, but, for me, his act is pretty stale and adds nothing to the match day experience, possibly something where a paid professional may be an improvement, in my opinion. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 24, 2017 15:04:28 GMT
I've always been a big Big Nick fan. Used to do a good job, still does IMO
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Post by harrybuckle on Sept 24, 2017 15:35:12 GMT
JUSTICE4HOLTBY CAMPAIGN is now being taken a stage further. Some fans refusing to book hospitality meals etc.
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 24, 2017 15:38:41 GMT
JUSTICE4HOLTBY CAMPAIGN is now being taken a stage further. Some fans refusing to book hospitality meals etc. Justice for what though? Unless someone ITK can explain what the injustice is, normal folk like me will just assume something different has been tried, or done for a reason If you could furnish us with some salient facts Mike it would be appreciated so we know if its a cause worth supporting |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 15:45:44 GMT
JUSTICE4HOLTBY CAMPAIGN is now being taken a stage further. Some fans refusing to book hospitality meals etc. Who is refusing to book / canceling? Do you have any names? |
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Post by fanatical on Sept 24, 2017 15:47:10 GMT
JUSTICE4HOLTBY CAMPAIGN is now being taken a stage further. Some fans refusing to book hospitality meals etc. Justice for what though? Unless someone ITK can explain what the injustice is, normal folk like me will just assume something different has been tried, or done for a reason If you could furnish us with some salient facts Mike it would be appreciated so we know if its a cause worth supporting A fuss about nothing me thinks - |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 16:25:29 GMT
I've always been a big Big Nick fan. Used to do a good job, still does IMO Agreed. Top bloke too. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 16:51:29 GMT
It wasn't a criticism of IH - just an observation that, maybe in a new business model of how we do things, the MC role is not commensurate with how they see the Stadium Manager role. I believe that our PA man is a volunteer, not a paid member of staff? I don't know what benefits Nick Day receives other than, I presume, entry for himself and his boy and a space in the car park, but, for me, his act is pretty stale and adds nothing to the match day experience, possibly something where a paid professional may be an improvement, in my opinion. Out of all the things that need to change at Rovers, I'd say that Nick Day is probably near the bottom of the list. He's as good as any PA man I've heard up and down the league and I'd see no reason to replace him whatever level we're at. |
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Post by Igitur on Sept 24, 2017 17:30:51 GMT
I don't know what benefits Nick Day receives other than, I presume, entry for himself and his boy and a space in the car park, but, for me, his act is pretty stale and adds nothing to the match day experience, possibly something where a paid professional may be an improvement, in my opinion. Out of all the things that need to change at Rovers, I'd say that Nick Day is probably near the bottom of the list. He's as good as any PA man I've heard up and down the league and I'd see no reason to replace him whatever level we're at. If you want to know how good Nick is, go to a match when he's not there. He's a top guy and a knowledgeable gashead with a good casual approach. If anything sort out the PA, we were promised a difference, but in the Blackthorn it was pants. |
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