harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Sept 24, 2017 17:40:53 GMT
JUSTICE4HOLTBY CAMPAIGN is now being taken a stage further. Some fans refusing to book hospitality meals etc. Who is refusing to book / canceling? Do you have any names? Richard Ticknell of Cross swords fame
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 18:03:18 GMT
Who is refusing to book / canceling? Do you have any names? Richard Ticknell of Cross swords fame
Never heard of him. What's Cross Swords, some kind of Irish dance?
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blueginger
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Post by blueginger on Sept 24, 2017 19:13:38 GMT
Can't see what the problem is, if the stadium manger managed the stadium better maybe we could hear the tannoy and the pasties would be better, if he is in hospitality he won't know what it's like watching from the North terrace
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Post by Gashead on Sept 24, 2017 19:26:12 GMT
He was at the game. Stadium managing presumably It seems he was removed from being host for hospitality yesterday. Who knows if it was a trial, or what but some (not you) shouting off without knowing facts. Maybe this is something they will try doesnt work out and will change back. Maybe there are other factors. If the new commercial director has come in ruffled a few feathers, thats not a bad thing necessarily when we complain about the club being tinpot Raises an interesting point. Bit long winded, you may think Irish has hacked my account, but here goes. If, and based on what Swiss is saying it's a huge if, the new owners do get us into some kind of modern stadium and they modernise things like our hospitality, we'll find that everything we are comfortable with and know will change, not only will the staff all change but they'll look the attract different clients in the hospitality areas as well. We've all been to PL stadiums, the programme sellers come from agencies, the shop staff don't know any of the customers, strict dress code in the higher levels of hospitality, that's what a top club is like today, the quarters will probably remain (unless some marketing genius decides we'll make more money from the Asia market if the shirts are red), nothing else will be the same though. I can't quite get my head around if I would rather stick with what I know and have known all my life, or watch a marketing exercise being played out in blue and white quarters? Making some pretty huge assumptions based on an allegation of someone other than the stadium manager being asked to do some MC'ing. It could all prove to be rubbish, but it would make sense if that part of his 'role' has been delegated elsewhere while he focuses on other things. Not sure that's part of a big conspiracy, but instead actually a smart move for a football club looking to move away from how football clubs were run years ago. Ultimately it comes down to whether people actually want progress at BRFC or not. Based on the complete overreaction over this I'd suggest a lot of people don't want it
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Post by PessimistGas on Sept 24, 2017 19:30:43 GMT
Club employee moves to different role within an organisation. Happens every day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 21:28:36 GMT
Richard Ticknell of Cross swords fame
Never heard of him. What's Cross Swords, some kind of Irish dance? Oh the man who has made money selling his version of rovers mechanise is worried we have a new commercial director that WILL hit his pocket.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 25, 2017 5:20:48 GMT
but when our club was absolutely on its arse he still sold the buffet / hospitality thing out for just about every game, he filled most of the boxes for every game and he sold advertising in a stadium.
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Hmmm. I thought he sold boxes knock down price to his mates and his team done the selling for him?
Every time I've booked boxes for beamback, corporate hospitality or dealt with hiring room at Mem I've never dealt with Hobbit Holtby himself.
He is a good mc, will give him that, but that's hardly a duty of a stadium manager.
Just saying.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 25, 2017 6:33:39 GMT
Maybe just maybe Mr Holtby asked the management if they could find somebody else to do that job so he could commit more time to more important things on a Saturday... like get the stadium ready for 10,000 gates
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faggotygas
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 25, 2017 8:25:00 GMT
Maybe just maybe Mr Holtby asked the management if they could find somebody else to do that job so he could commit more time to more important things on a Saturday... like get the stadium ready for 10,000 gates That's what I assumed. He has to run around like a blue arsed fly on match days from what I understand, if we have someone else who can do just as good a job on the hospitality, then why not free up Ian's time?
So many assuming that this was against his will. It might be, but do we know that?
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Post by jungleboogie on Sept 25, 2017 8:45:45 GMT
The whole 'protest' is a joke. Ok, some people might not be happy that their mate is no longer around to have a chat with whilst eating their meal, but as others have mentioned, things move on, and change is inevitable. I'm certainly not hoping for a brash Premiership style hospitality, but we do need to move away from the glorified social club version that we currently have.
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LPGas
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Post by LPGas on Sept 25, 2017 9:30:17 GMT
I've always been a big Big Nick fan. Used to do a good job, still does IMO Agreed. Top bloke too. Not in my book. I agree with the previous comments. his choice of music is dire. Songs to slit your wrists to. When he was away we had some modern techno which got the crowd going which is what it should be. If you want 30 year old songs Tune in to radio Gold or something. He is too loud and to be honest repetitive from one week to another, and he rarely reads out the half time scores. (Notice on Saturday the upgraded PA made him hard to hear which is good, and he read out the half times. ) Perhaps someone has had a word. I met him once and thought he was a bit arrogant. Ian Holtby one of the most friendly people I know. Perhaps his office belongs to the new marketing manager?
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 25, 2017 9:39:02 GMT
(googling 'modern techno'.......)
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 25, 2017 9:42:29 GMT
Not in my book. I agree with the previous comments. his choice of music is dire. Songs to slit your wrists to. When he was away we had some modern techno which got the crowd going which is what it should be. If you want 30 year old songs Tune in to radio Gold or something. He is too loud and to be honest repetitive from one week to another, and he rarely reads out the half time scores. (Notice on Saturday the upgraded PA made him hard to hear which is good, and he read out the half times. ) Perhaps someone has had a word. I met him once and thought he was a bit arrogant. Ian Holtby one of the most friendly people I know. P erhaps his office belongs to the new marketing manager?What the supporters club bar ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 9:54:39 GMT
Not in my book. I agree with the previous comments. his choice of music is dire. Songs to slit your wrists to. When he was away we had some modern techno which got the crowd going which is what it should be. If you want 30 year old songs Tune in to radio Gold or something. He is too loud and to be honest repetitive from one week to another, and he rarely reads out the half time scores. (Notice on Saturday the upgraded PA made him hard to hear which is good, and he read out the half times. ) Perhaps someone has had a word. I met him once and thought he was a bit arrogant. Ian Holtby one of the most friendly people I know. Perhaps his office belongs to the new marketing manager? This is the thing, I don't have an issue with Nick, but the only defence put forward for him so far is that he's a nice bloke and some other people are worse at doing the job. Well, I agree, we've all been to grounds where the bloke with the mic has been rubbish, Nick isn't rubbish, but whether he's a nice bloke or not isn't the issue, his act is stale and boring, nobody wants to listen to Del Shannon, it's 2017, not 1961. Is it the biggest issue facing us? Of course not, but Nick can do better if he puts a bit of effort in. What happened to the half time thing where people were trying to kick the ball into the goal, we did it about 10 times then it just disappeared and nothing seems to have replaced it. Does he ever interact with supporters? I know that can be a bit risky, but it can also be great fun, Keith at Twerton had the entire ground in stitches more than once messing around with away fans, I know for sure that Nick is at least as quick witted as Keith.
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Post by Dr John Dee on Sept 25, 2017 10:06:03 GMT
nobody wants to listen to Del Shannon Sir, you are wrong. Like it or not, the average population of a afootball ground is considerably more "Radio Old" than " Radio House Party". A guest host from Ujima might be nice, but the playlist will still be more like Jimmy Cliff and MOR than techno thumping bangers or whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 10:18:22 GMT
nobody wants to listen to Del Shannon Sir, you are wrong. Like it or not, the average population of a afootball ground is considerably more "Radio Old" than " Radio House Party". A guest host from Ujima might be nice, but the playlist will still be more like Jimmy Cliff and MOR than techno thumping bangers or whatever. In which case I take it all back, we'll insist on a Victorian dress code, cancel the defribulators and order 2 quarts of leeches, shut the car park and only allow people in who arrive on Penny Farthings and cover the curves on the bottom of all table legs in case Gentlemen become aroused in carnal ways.
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Post by Dr John Dee on Sept 25, 2017 10:35:49 GMT
Left to his own devices Mr Day would probably present us a playlist of the morbid mediocracy of Deacon Blue. The fact is him and DJ Lance have to present music that is suitable for more of an Auntie's wedding scenario. A set of hard house techno dance floor bangers might give 10% of the crowd apoplectic delights as they get their jam, but at least 80% will be left covering their ears. It's not a disco, it's some music before a football match. For me, the ones you can sing along to work best, so Smokie and Alice, Hi Ho Silver Lining, The Liquidator, Amarillo, Runaway etc are all fine for that gig. Jump Around by House of Pain was a laugh as well, but I understand the Safety man had objections to the Jumping Around.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 10:42:58 GMT
Left to his own devices Mr Day would probably present us a playlist of the morbid mediocracy of Deacon Blue. The fact is him and DJ Lance have to present music that is suitable for more of an Auntie's wedding scenario. A set of hard house techno dance floor bangers might give 10% of the crowd apoplectic delights as they get their jam, but at least 80% will be left covering their ears. It's not a disco, it's some music before a football match. For me, the ones you can sing along to work best, so Smokie and Alice, Hi Ho Silver Lining, The Liquidator, Amarillo, Runaway etc are all fine for that gig. Jump Around by House of Pain was a laugh as well, but I understand the Safety man had objections to the Jumping Around. Go to a ground where they use the PA as part of an event to create an atmosphere It's great, honest.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Sept 25, 2017 10:48:51 GMT
Left to his own devices Mr Day would probably present us a playlist of the morbid mediocracy of Deacon Blue. The fact is him and DJ Lance have to present music that is suitable for more of an Auntie's wedding scenario. A set of hard house techno dance floor bangers might give 10% of the crowd apoplectic delights as they get their jam, but at least 80% will be left covering their ears. It's not a disco, it's some music before a football match. For me, the ones you can sing along to work best, so Smokie and Alice, Hi Ho Silver Lining, The Liquidator, Amarillo, Runaway etc are all fine for that gig. Jump Around by House of Pain was a laugh as well, but I understand the Safety man had objections to the Jumping Around. Go to a ground where they use the PA as part of an event to create an atmosphere It's great, honest. No it most definitely isn't. Now pipers on the roof at Murrayfield as it gets dark is way past great. A guy on a microphone exhorting fans to make more noise is just cringe worthy, next you'll want to employ people to start Mexican waves or perhaps blow a few vuvuzelas
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 10:56:22 GMT
Go to a ground where they use the PA as part of an event to create an atmosphere It's great, honest. No it most definitely isn't. Now pipers on the roof at Murrayfield as it gets dark is way past great. A guy on a microphone exhorting fans to make more noise is just cringe worthy, next you'll want to employ people to start Mexican waves or perhaps blow a few vuvuzelas As I said, it's great when it's done to create an atmosphere. I agree, idiots just shouting isn't entertainment by any definition that I understand.
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