Big Red
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Post by Big Red on Aug 22, 2017 9:53:37 GMT
I think anyone should be made welcome to come along. That's how you grow a fan base.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 22, 2017 10:29:19 GMT
11000 people through the gates is 11000 people. It only seems to matter to you what there race or religion is. How do you prioritise getting new fans from a particular racial background over another without some form of discrimination? Yes but it could be 11,500 because a section of our society clearly are not going to rovers matches. The best thing i can think of is more effort in the communities/schools that have large ethnic groups. Its funny how people get very tetchy over any sign of positive discrimination after not giving a damn about discrimination of minorities for decades and more. Discrimination is discrimination, obviously you're a supporter of discrimination. Sad
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Post by tanksfull on Aug 22, 2017 10:33:12 GMT
11000 people through the gates is 11000 people. It only seems to matter to you what there race or religion is. How do you prioritise getting new fans from a particular racial background over another without some form of discrimination? Yes but it could be 11,500 because a section of our society clearly are not going to rovers matches. The best thing i can think of is more effort in the communities/schools that have large ethnic groups. Its funny how people get very tetchy over any sign of positive discrimination after not giving a damn about discrimination of minorities for decades and more. With any "group" of potential supporters you need to first understand why that “group” is not coming and then address those specific needs. The need will be different dependent upon the "group". We currently target children with cheaper entry as parents might find it difficult to afford to pay for them to go. They are also our future. The parents of children who already identify with Bristol Rovers are "soft" targets. Having said that I'm not so sure that children are the lifeblood that they used to be due to movement and increased mobility around the country/world of younger people. In some respects far better to target people who have settled in the area long term. Trying to entice other "groups" may not be about price. It might be about them feeling comfortable. It might be offering the right prawn sandwich. It might be about playing on a Friday as the "group" plays football on a Saturday afternoon. I'm not necessarily advocating positive discrimination but every "group" needs to be considered without someone having a preconceived chip on their shoulder that racism is involved all the time. We already provide for "groups" who will only come if they can sit down, stand up, buy a pasty, go in a box, have a parking space at the ground. Why not find out what other "groups" want and target them?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 11:10:05 GMT
More diversity at the mem would be a financial boom to bristol rovers so just from a commercial point of view some sort of break through in this area would be great for the club. In any other situation where you could increase your fan base and therefore probably your playing budget you could count on universal support. But on this particular way of improving the club there will be plenty that dont like the idea one little bit. Strange isnt it? If the solutions were free everybody would already have them in place. Maybe this is why only the clubs who are rolling in money seem to be making significant progress. Spend a few hours looking at the community projects that the top clubs are involved in, it's not just sending a player to train with 10 year olds at a local boys' club, these are big, complex and expensive schemes. Are there ''plenty'' that wouldn't like the crowds mirroring the faces you see on a walk around Broadmead? Not being awkward, but what do you base that on? Sure, a couple who still think it's 1970 will be upset, but we can get along just fine without them. Good post,maybe its not "plenty" at least hopefully its not.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 22, 2017 12:11:00 GMT
I had yet another hospital appointment yesterday and I asked my Srilankan specialist why we don't see hardly any Asians at football and he simple answer was that they are not brought up really interested in it and that cricket is the sport they near worship. He also said that the parents look at football badly. I don't know the answer but it seems we do have a reputation problem, going on his answer and he is around 40, very well dressed and I'd love to see him and more like him at the gas
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 22, 2017 12:35:25 GMT
I had yet another hospital appointment yesterday and I asked my Srilankan specialist why we don't see hardly any Asians at football and he simple answer was that they are not brought up really interested in it and that cricket is the sport they near worship. He also said that the parents look at football badly. I don't know the answer but it seems we do have a reputation problem, going on his answer and he is around 40, very well dressed and I'd love to see him and more like him at the gas Fail to see how we have a reputation problem in what you have posted. Are BRFC now responsible for the cultural upbringing of Asian children. Think what you have posted backs up the point made by people that some groups don't come to football because it doesn't interest them. Perhaps they should be forced to watch football to Culturally integrate? All reminds me of the claims that 1 in 10 footballers are gay. Which they have to be so the gay community can feel justified.
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Igitur
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Post by Igitur on Aug 22, 2017 13:27:21 GMT
Is it appropriate in this PC World to have a training ground called The Colony, smacks of imperialism if you ask me (although we've already been to the Imperial Ground) or is it because there's a colony of protected ground-living ring-tailed lesser spotted bats living there which will affect PP? :-)
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Post by tanksfull on Aug 22, 2017 14:12:43 GMT
I had yet another hospital appointment yesterday and I asked my Srilankan specialist why we don't see hardly any Asians at football and he simple answer was that they are not brought up really interested in it and that cricket is the sport they near worship. He also said that the parents look at football badly. I don't know the answer but it seems we do have a reputation problem, going on his answer and he is around 40, very well dressed and I'd love to see him and more like him at the gas Fail to see how we have a reputation problem in what you have posted. Are BRFC now responsible for the cultural upbringing of Asian children. Think what you have posted backs up the point made by people that some groups don't come to football because it doesn't interest them. Perhaps they should be forced to watch football to Culturally integrate? All reminds me of the claims that 1 in 10 footballers are gay. Which they have to be so the gay community can feel justified. I can often be accused of being hypocritical because I can generally and genuinely, without sitting on the fence, see merit in both sides of a discussion. I'm guessing the reputation is earned by football in general, not just Bristol Rovers. And yes if children are not brought up to appreciate something and understand it they won't go on to follow it. There was no way my son was going to support any other team than Bristol Rovers, was there? The last comment I totally concur with. Whilst we do need to go very careful in the way groups see themselves, they can often "play the card" in whatever way suits them. Blimey we've played the card of being Rag Bag Rovers for years...
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strung out
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Post by strung out on Aug 22, 2017 14:50:47 GMT
Is it appropriate in this PC World to have a training ground called The Colony, smacks of imperialism if you ask me (although we've already been to the Imperial Ground) or is it because there's a colony of protected ground-living ring-tailed lesser spotted bats living there which will affect PP? :-) It's because of an old mental health hospital (or colony as it was often called) that used to be on the site.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 15:19:30 GMT
Is it appropriate in this PC World to have a training ground called The Colony, smacks of imperialism if you ask me (although we've already been to the Imperial Ground) or is it because there's a colony of protected ground-living ring-tailed lesser spotted bats living there which will affect PP? :-) It's because of an old mental health hospital (or colony as it was often called) that used to be on the site. Hortham Idiot Colony, no less. I think its an abysmal name for a training ground (but I also don't think that matters).
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 23, 2017 12:10:27 GMT
I had yet another hospital appointment yesterday and I asked my Srilankan specialist why we don't see hardly any Asians at football and he simple answer was that they are not brought up really interested in it and that cricket is the sport they near worship. He also said that the parents look at football badly. I don't know the answer but it seems we do have a reputation problem, going on his answer and he is around 40, very well dressed and I'd love to see him and more like him at the gas Fail to see how we have a reputation problem in what you have posted. Are BRFC now responsible for the cultural upbringing of Asian children. Think what you have posted backs up the point made by people that some groups don't come to football because it doesn't interest them. Perhaps they should be forced to watch football to Culturally integrate? All reminds me of the claims that 1 in 10 footballers are gay. Which they have to be so the gay community can feel justified. It was just me reporting on a conversation I had with my specialist, nothing more & nothing less.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 12:13:13 GMT
Is it appropriate in this PC World to have a training ground called The Colony, smacks of imperialism if you ask me (although we've already been to the Imperial Ground) or is it because there's a colony of protected ground-living ring-tailed lesser spotted bats living there which will affect PP? :-)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 12:14:55 GMT
apart from one poster on the thread can you name a n other ? I was thinking beyond this tiny forum. then i will counter i dont believe nowadays there ARE many
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zfc
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Post by zfc on Sept 22, 2017 20:11:52 GMT
no need to be that extreme. stay the fúck away from the Mem will do for me. With the IRA and German Bombers rubbish, some parts of the Thatchers end may as well be twinned with Charlottesville. Well said and whether people like it or not, it's true there are certain parts of the ground, Thatchers in parts and West Terrace in parts in my experience, that are pure vile bile and hatred. I come to watch a game and not get mein kampf quoted me and told how right Hitler and Enoch Powell were. What gets me is that if these people can be intelligent enough to quote these then why not then take it further and see how history is repeating itself. Unopposed hatred and apathy are the two pillars that allow evil to succeed and we do have two very different types of supporters. Those hankering for the good old days of p**i bashing and those who just want a decent day out. This really does need nipping in the bud If someone really did compare Hitler to Enoch Powell then they are completely clueless and deserve utter contempt......For the record I think anyone studying a football crowd looking for black or brown faces are infact racists themselves.
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SE5 Gas
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Post by SE5 Gas on Sept 22, 2017 20:54:03 GMT
Christ I'm not surprised it took you over a month since the last post to come up with these pearls of wisdom. Thanks for clearing it all up for us.
Lads, it turns out the blokes who wrote the article are racist themselves!!! I'm glad they've been outed for the evil ba**ards that they are. There was me thinking they were evil card carrying members of the PC brigade who wanted to turn the mem in to South Africa and hang white blokes from the floodlights.
And who is this heathen who has dared compare Adolf Hitler to Enoch Powell??? Bring back hanging for this traitor. Don't worry ZFC this despicable man has my utter contempt.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 25, 2017 16:21:58 GMT
Christ I'm not surprised it took you over a month since the last post to come up with these pearls of wisdom. Thanks for clearing it all up for us. Lads, it turns out the blokes who wrote the article are racist themselves!!! I'm glad they've been outed for the evil ba**ards that they are. There was me thinking they were evil card carrying members of the PC brigade who wanted to turn the mem in to South Africa and hang white blokes from the floodlights. And who is this heathen who has dared compare Adolf Hitler to Enoch Powell??? Bring back hanging for this traitor. Don't worry ZFC this despicable man has my utter contempt. When were they outed please and do you have any links ? Very naughty to do stuff like that. Social media eh, more like antisocial. There really are some deeply troubled and messed up people around zfc. I sometimes just browse the crowd, to see if I can see any groups of ethnic groups but I don’t see them. I know many Asians just don’t like football but I do remember when we had a fair few at Twerton.
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Post by pirate49 on Sept 25, 2017 16:28:53 GMT
Christ I'm not surprised it took you over a month since the last post to come up with these pearls of wisdom. Thanks for clearing it all up for us. Lads, it turns out the blokes who wrote the article are racist themselves!!! I'm glad they've been outed for the evil ba**ards that they are. There was me thinking they were evil card carrying members of the PC brigade who wanted to turn the mem in to South Africa and hang white blokes from the floodlights. And who is this heathen who has dared compare Adolf Hitler to Enoch Powell??? Bring back hanging for this traitor. Don't worry ZFC this despicable man has my utter contempt. When were they outed please and do you have any links ? Very naughty to do stuff like that. Social media eh, more like antisocial. There really are some deeply troubled and messed up people around zfc . I sometimes just browse the crowd, to see if I can see any groups of ethnic groups but I don’t see them. I know many Asians just don’t like football but I do remember when we had a fair few at Twerton. It's not just the crowd if we're talking seriously, and not in a PC way, about diversity. Take a look at the management, backroom staff, catering staff, SC committee, programme sellers, Community Department staff and Trustees, ground staff ...the list goes on. One of the ways of bringing about change is leading by example.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 25, 2017 16:31:35 GMT
When were they outed please and do you have any links ? Very naughty to do stuff like that. Social media eh, more like antisocial. There really are some deeply troubled and messed up people around zfc . I sometimes just browse the crowd, to see if I can see any groups of ethnic groups but I don’t see them. I know many Asians just don’t like football but I do remember when we had a fair few at Twerton. It's not just the crowd if we're talking seriously, and not in a PC way, about diversity. Take a look at the management, backroom staff, catering staff, SC committee, programme sellers, Community Department staff and Trustees, ground staff ...the list goes on. One of the ways of bringing about change is leading by example. Fair comment that. Nice one fella
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Sept 25, 2017 16:38:54 GMT
It fair to say our fan base in Jordan and at the Mem has never been higher. The signing of the young lad from Jordan for the Academy is a positive sign of change.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 16:40:59 GMT
perhaps and heres a thought football isnt a sport pakistani/indian men follow as much as us
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