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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 10:33:30 GMT
I cant believe how much space has been taken up since the original post - so I will add to it!! Probably too old but in terms of increasing our support from a wider population surely it is simple? Anyone living in Bristol will be aware of professional football and if it is something they are interested in they go along and watch either Rovers or City I have not been aware of any direct abuse of a non white supporter in the games I have attended and if so I would try to do something to stop it - that also applies to our players or the opposition The problem with some of these areas is the over positive discrimination in favour of 'minority' groups to the extend that it annoys many with too much PC involvement and imo actually works against what people are trying to achieve by a more low key approach It is also extends to not been able to act where action should be taken but authorities shy away for example Rotherham and Rochdale - even now people have to tip toe around the subject for fear of being called racist Re the EU I voted out not because of 'foreigners' - I have been lucky enough to have travelled to different parts of the world and have nothing but respect for other countries and their people My vote for out was because we are already an over populated island and you cannot fit two pints into a pint pot (France same population but twice the geographical size for example) AND more importantly I dont want our country to be run by un elected gravy train civil servants who have changed the EU from a free market into a federal state and cant even sign off their own financial accounts [ Typical f**king racist nazi little Englander. Been practicing your goose stepping??? My comment is a joke incidentally, there will be loads on here thinking that. I voted leave for exactly the same reasons as you my friend. Thinking in squares perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 11:07:42 GMT
This thread is veeringly worryingly away from Diversity at the Mem... Progressing, if you view events at football games as a microcosm of much larger issues Yes, but to be fair, Minford isn't really much to do with Rovers, other than he's raving mad and if he were in charge nobody would have a job so Rovers, along with 90% of all UK businesses would go bust.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 11:33:55 GMT
Progressing, if you view events at football games as a microcosm of much larger issues Yes, but to be fair, Minford isn't really much to do with Rovers, other than he's raving mad and if he were in charge nobody would have a job so Rovers, along with 90% of all UK businesses would go bust. Not you my friend, you are playing out your old fantasies.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 21, 2017 12:39:00 GMT
This thread is veeringly worryingly away from Diversity at the Mem... Perhaps the mods should've acted when posters started calling others racist. Oops isn't that what the administrator was doing as well?
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Post by strung out on Aug 21, 2017 13:03:00 GMT
This thread is veeringly worryingly away from Diversity at the Mem... Perhaps the mods should've acted when posters started calling others racist. Oops isn't that what the administrator was doing as well? My initial post was in response to a poster's comments on thewhether the club should attempt to attract fans from underrepresented parts of the Bristol population. Both relevant to Bristol Rovers and an accurate portrayal of that poster's opinions. Not a single piece of racist name calling. I don't think we've ever removed serious chat when it specifically relates to Bristol Rovers, it's only when those topics veer away from the stated aims of the forum that we act. Good to see you've taken me off ignore by the way
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 21, 2017 14:03:58 GMT
Perhaps the mods should've acted when posters started calling others racist. Oops isn't that what the administrator was doing as well? My initial post was in response to a poster's comments on thewhether the club should attempt to attract fans from underrepresented parts of the Bristol population. Both relevant to Bristol Rovers and an accurate portrayal of that poster's opinions. Not a single piece of racist name calling. I don't think we've ever removed serious chat when it specifically relates to Bristol Rovers, it's only when those topics veer away from the stated aims of the forum that we act. Good to see you've taken me off ignore by the way No but unfortunately your crap comes up on quotes. Good to know as an administrator you won't condemn or moderate poster's calling others racist, guess all insults are therefore acceptable
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Post by strung out on Aug 21, 2017 14:50:06 GMT
My initial post was in response to a poster's comments on thewhether the club should attempt to attract fans from underrepresented parts of the Bristol population. Both relevant to Bristol Rovers and an accurate portrayal of that poster's opinions. Not a single piece of racist name calling. I don't think we've ever removed serious chat when it specifically relates to Bristol Rovers, it's only when those topics veer away from the stated aims of the forum that we act. Good to see you've taken me off ignore by the way No but unfortunately your crap comes up on quotes. Good to know as an administrator you won't condemn or moderate poster's calling others racist, guess all insults are therefore acceptable I've just re-read the whole thread - most of it seems to be people saying things like 'I can't say this anymore otherwise people will call me racist!' without anyone actually being called a racist. There was one comment that looked like a bit of gentle pisstaking to me, although others are welcome to disagree. We rely on post reports to flag up potential instances of unacceptable conduct, so if you think someone has stepped out of line, you know where the 'report post' button is. Where the moderators agree a line has been crossed, we take action collectively. Personally, I've been enjoying what has mostly been a pretty healthy debate about whether Rovers could or should do more to increase attendance from underrepresented parts of the Bristol population. I think it makes good business sense as well as being a healthy way for Rovers to actively participate in the communities it represents. I reserve the right to tell people I think they're talking rubbish though, as I know you do too. Have a good day
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 18:44:17 GMT
No but unfortunately your crap comes up on quotes. Good to know as an administrator you won't condemn or moderate poster's calling others racist, guess all insults are therefore acceptable I've just re-read the whole thread - most of it seems to be people saying things like 'I can't say this anymore otherwise people will call me racist!' without anyone actually being called a racist. There was one comment that looked like a bit of gentle pisstaking to me, although others are welcome to disagree. We rely on post reports to flag up potential instances of unacceptable conduct, so if you think someone has stepped out of line, you know where the 'report post' button is. Where the moderators agree a line has been crossed, we take action collectively. Personally, I've been enjoying what has mostly been a pretty healthy debate about whether Rovers could or should do more to increase attendance from underrepresented parts of the Bristol population. I think it makes good business sense as well as being a healthy way for Rovers to actively participate in the communities it represents. I reserve the right to tell people I think they're talking rubbish though, as I know you do too. Have a good day Has anything been suggested that would change the make up of the crowd?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 19:08:00 GMT
I've just re-read the whole thread - most of it seems to be people saying things like 'I can't say this anymore otherwise people will call me racist!' without anyone actually being called a racist. There was one comment that looked like a bit of gentle pisstaking to me, although others are welcome to disagree. We rely on post reports to flag up potential instances of unacceptable conduct, so if you think someone has stepped out of line, you know where the 'report post' button is. Where the moderators agree a line has been crossed, we take action collectively. Personally, I've been enjoying what has mostly been a pretty healthy debate about whether Rovers could or should do more to increase attendance from underrepresented parts of the Bristol population. I think it makes good business sense as well as being a healthy way for Rovers to actively participate in the communities it represents. I reserve the right to tell people I think they're talking rubbish though, as I know you do too. Have a good day Has anything been suggested that would change the make up of the crowd? something about wayne rooney or some old crap a few posts back
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 19:33:11 GMT
Has anything been suggested that would change the make up of the crowd? something about wayne rooney or some old crap a few posts back What, we all have to get hair transplants, wear Everton PJs, get knocked out cold having a go at boxing in our kitchen and hang around the OAP entrance? Can't see that enticing too many new visitors.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 19:33:56 GMT
So let's attack Strung Out? Clutching at straws chaps, The PC gone mad argument seems to have drifted off into the sunset. The argument against a pro active case for increasing the fan base melted like butter. 🤣
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Post by dickgherkin on Aug 21, 2017 19:52:59 GMT
Has anything been suggested that would change the make up of the crowd? something about wayne rooney or some old crap a few posts back We wrote an article for the Bristol Cable about what could be done - thebristolcable.org/2017/07/rovers-against-racism-enough/Actually, think there was a thread on here about it a while ago....... Next up is getting a questionnaire together to find out what potential fans from under-represented communities think about the Gas and whether there is anything we could do to make it easier for them to come through the turnstile. Hope to have a meeting with the club later in the year and build from there. If you've got a spare £1 a month please think of becoming a joint-owner of the Bristol Cable - own your own local media! - thebristolcable.org/membership/?headerclick
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Post by alloutofgas on Aug 21, 2017 21:21:05 GMT
I've just re-read the whole thread - most of it seems to be people saying things like 'I can't say this anymore otherwise people will call me racist!' without anyone actually being called a racist. There was one comment that looked like a bit of gentle pisstaking to me, although others are welcome to disagree. We rely on post reports to flag up potential instances of unacceptable conduct, so if you think someone has stepped out of line, you know where the 'report post' button is. Where the moderators agree a line has been crossed, we take action collectively. Personally, I've been enjoying what has mostly been a pretty healthy debate about whether Rovers could or should do more to increase attendance from underrepresented parts of the Bristol population. I think it makes good business sense as well as being a healthy way for Rovers to actively participate in the communities it represents. I reserve the right to tell people I think they're talking rubbish though, as I know you do too. Have a good day Has anything been suggested that would change the make up of the crowd? I don't wear make up
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 22:11:27 GMT
More diversity at the mem would be a financial boom to bristol rovers so just from a commercial point of view some sort of break through in this area would be great for the club. In any other situation where you could increase your fan base and therefore probably your playing budget you could count on universal support. But on this particular way of improving the club there will be plenty that dont like the idea one little bit. Strange isnt it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 2:29:48 GMT
More diversity at the mem would be a financial boom to bristol rovers so just from a commercial point of view some sort of break through in this area would be great for the club. In any other situation where you could increase your fan base and therefore probably your playing budget you could count on universal support. But on this particular way of improving the club there will be plenty that dont like the idea one little bit. Strange isnt it? apart from one poster on the thread can you name a n other ?
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 22, 2017 8:03:41 GMT
More diversity at the mem would be a financial boom to bristol rovers so just from a commercial point of view some sort of break through in this area would be great for the club. In any other situation where you could increase your fan base and therefore probably your playing budget you could count on universal support. But on this particular way of improving the club there will be plenty that dont like the idea one little bit. Strange isnt it? 11000 people through the gates is 11000 people. It only seems to matter to you what there race or religion is. How do you prioritise getting new fans from a particular racial background over another without some form of discrimination?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 8:28:58 GMT
More diversity at the mem would be a financial boom to bristol rovers so just from a commercial point of view some sort of break through in this area would be great for the club. In any other situation where you could increase your fan base and therefore probably your playing budget you could count on universal support. But on this particular way of improving the club there will be plenty that dont like the idea one little bit. Strange isnt it? 11000 people through the gates is 11000 people. It only seems to matter to you what there race or religion is. How do you prioritise getting new fans from a particular racial background over another without some form of discrimination? It's a good question. I do believe we should target defined sections of the population who may not be attending, but not through affirmative action.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 8:54:16 GMT
More diversity at the mem would be a financial boom to bristol rovers so just from a commercial point of view some sort of break through in this area would be great for the club. In any other situation where you could increase your fan base and therefore probably your playing budget you could count on universal support. But on this particular way of improving the club there will be plenty that dont like the idea one little bit. Strange isnt it? apart from one poster on the thread can you name a n other ? I was thinking beyond this tiny forum.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 9:01:39 GMT
More diversity at the mem would be a financial boom to bristol rovers so just from a commercial point of view some sort of break through in this area would be great for the club. In any other situation where you could increase your fan base and therefore probably your playing budget you could count on universal support. But on this particular way of improving the club there will be plenty that dont like the idea one little bit. Strange isnt it? 11000 people through the gates is 11000 people. It only seems to matter to you what there race or religion is. How do you prioritise getting new fans from a particular racial background over another without some form of discrimination? Yes but it could be 11,500 because a section of our society clearly are not going to rovers matches. The best thing i can think of is more effort in the communities/schools that have large ethnic groups. Its funny how people get very tetchy over any sign of positive discrimination after not giving a damn about discrimination of minorities for decades and more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 9:51:35 GMT
More diversity at the mem would be a financial boom to bristol rovers so just from a commercial point of view some sort of break through in this area would be great for the club. In any other situation where you could increase your fan base and therefore probably your playing budget you could count on universal support. But on this particular way of improving the club there will be plenty that dont like the idea one little bit. Strange isnt it? If the solutions were free everybody would already have them in place. Maybe this is why only the clubs who are rolling in money seem to be making significant progress. Spend a few hours looking at the community projects that the top clubs are involved in, it's not just sending a player to train with 10 year olds at a local boys' club, these are big, complex and expensive schemes. Are there ''plenty'' that wouldn't like the crowds mirroring the faces you see on a walk around Broadmead? Not being awkward, but what do you base that on? Sure, a couple who still think it's 1970 will be upset, but we can get along just fine without them.
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