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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Sept 9, 2016 8:38:52 GMT
For the vast majority of my time watching Rovers, we have been threatening to move into a new purpose built stadium, and for that reason I am firmly in the 'Believe in when I'm sat watching a game in it' camp. I feel the most important move we ever made was the one back to Bristol in 1996, and even if we do get the new ground, it will never mean as much to me as the day we moved back into our own city. If the rumoured site of the training ground is correct Rex we could have a lot to thank you for.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 9, 2016 9:54:35 GMT
For the vast majority of my time watching Rovers, we have been threatening to move into a new purpose built stadium, and for that reason I am firmly in the 'Believe in when I'm sat watching a game in it' camp. I feel the most important move we ever made was the one back to Bristol in 1996, and even if we do get the new ground, it will never mean as much to me as the day we moved back into our own city. If the rumoured site of the training ground is correct Rex we could have a lot to thank you for. More good news Evil Post
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 9, 2016 10:54:40 GMT
More to with interior design and fit out I thought the planning permission covered the potential capacity too. Isn't it 20,700 expandable to 30,000 something? If I recall accurately last night Wael said it will be 21,700 and if in the future we need expansion it would require further planning permission.
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Post by vaughan on Sept 9, 2016 11:17:07 GMT
I think that this thread fails to acknowledge the positivity of the announcements ref UWE. I was left with no other impression than that we are nearing the end-zone and that there will be announcement soon. The feasibility study for option now decided will take no more than 2 weeks - as confirmed by WAQ. He would not convey such positivity if there were major obstacles. There seems to be no dissenting voices from UWE. You have to have faith in these people. The Points West programme will underline that WAQ is seeking to prove himself to Jordanian society (who may have been sceptical that he is just a rich kid) that he can be a leading light in English football - so a new stadium and training ground will underpin these ambitions. As a Bristolian and standing above the often petty rivalry, I can see a much bigger picture here. Lansdown has now met his match in WAQ and what you will see (IMHO) in next 10 years is probably the most compelling story of development of football (on and off the pitch)in Bristol's entire history. We have some catching up to do first, though. Next major challenge needing WAQ / Hamer revolution: marketing of FC to new breed of supporters, once Stadium has been announced. One step at a time though.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 9, 2016 13:35:26 GMT
I think that this thread fails to acknowledge the positivity of the announcements ref UWE. I was left with no other impression than that we are nearing the end-zone and that there will be announcement soon. The feasibility study for option now decided will take no more than 2 weeks - as confirmed by WAQ. He would not convey such positivity if there were major obstacles. There seems to be no dissenting voices from UWE. You have to have faith in these people. The Points West programme will underline that WAQ is seeking to prove himself to Jordanian society (who may have been sceptical that he is just a rich kid) that he can be a leading light in English football - so a new stadium and training ground will underpin these ambitions. As a Bristolian and standing above the often petty rivalry, I can see a much bigger picture here. Lansdown has now met his match in WAQ and what you will see (IMHO) in next 10 years is probably the most compelling story of development of football (on and off the pitch)in Bristol's entire history. We have some catching up to do first, though. Next major challenge needing WAQ / Hamer revolution: marketing of FC to new breed of supporters, once Stadium has been announced. One step at a time though. As much as I agree with you in the main, there is always that niggling ball ache that comes with having been let down on so many occasions. I dearly want this to be true and that it will happen and, like Fox Mulder in the X files, I want to believe. History has shown that we really do have to see it to believe.
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Post by Thatslife on Sept 9, 2016 15:18:03 GMT
I think that this thread fails to acknowledge the positivity of the announcements ref UWE. I was left with no other impression than that we are nearing the end-zone and that there will be announcement soon. The feasibility study for option now decided will take no more than 2 weeks - as confirmed by WAQ. He would not convey such positivity if there were major obstacles. There seems to be no dissenting voices from UWE. You have to have faith in these people. The Points West programme will underline that WAQ is seeking to prove himself to Jordanian society (who may have been sceptical that he is just a rich kid) that he can be a leading light in English football - so a new stadium and training ground will underpin these ambitions. As a Bristolian and standing above the often petty rivalry, I can see a much bigger picture here. Lansdown has now met his match in WAQ and what you will see (IMHO) in next 10 years is probably the most compelling story of development of football (on and off the pitch)in Bristol's entire history. We have some catching up to do first, though. Next major challenge needing WAQ / Hamer revolution: marketing of FC to new breed of supporters, once Stadium has been announced. One step at a time though. I too have faith (belief without proof) that things are approaching the end game. Since the days of chatting with Gordon Bennett at the old training ground at Frenchay ,I like most Gasheads, have weathered a very very long storm. The new ground will happen, as well as the new academy. Why do I believe this, simple really, our new owner has the resources, the desire and above all the belief that, over time, he can make the right things happen for BRFC and that can only be good for the Bristol area.
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Post by brizzle on Sept 9, 2016 16:54:21 GMT
I too am totally confident that the club under the present stewardship, is heading 110% in the right direction. Let slow but sure be our byword here. But the only thing that sticks in my craw is the fact that after enduring a huge chunk of the past 60 years, that I should miss out on the BRFC Glory Years. Tongue firmly in cheek about the ''enduring'' bit by the way, cos I wouldn't have missed 99% of it for anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 18:07:39 GMT
Hortham Lane is within Almondsbury. Can't help but feel confused as I thought it had been mentioned by WAQ that they wanted the training and academy base to also be in the grounds of UWE?
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Post by brizzle on Sept 9, 2016 18:12:35 GMT
Hortham Lane is within Almondsbury. Can't help but feel confused as I thought it had been mentioned by WAQ that they wanted the training and academy base to also be in the grounds of UWE? Go with the flow, nothing is written in stone. I believe that we'll all be delighted with the end result, whatever it may be.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 18:16:05 GMT
I think that this thread fails to acknowledge the positivity of the announcements ref UWE. I was left with no other impression than that we are nearing the end-zone and that there will be announcement soon. The feasibility study for option now decided will take no more than 2 weeks - as confirmed by WAQ. He would not convey such positivity if there were major obstacles. There seems to be no dissenting voices from UWE. You have to have faith in these people. The Points West programme will underline that WAQ is seeking to prove himself to Jordanian society (who may have been sceptical that he is just a rich kid) that he can be a leading light in English football - so a new stadium and training ground will underpin these ambitions. As a Bristolian and standing above the often petty rivalry, I can see a much bigger picture here. Lansdown has now met his match in WAQ and what you will see (IMHO) in next 10 years is probably the most compelling story of development of football (on and off the pitch)in Bristol's entire history. We have some catching up to do first, though. Next major challenge needing WAQ / Hamer revolution: marketing of FC to new breed of supporters, once Stadium has been announced. One step at a time though. Your not alone Vaughan, since day one of Waels arrival I have felt very positive about the long term future of the FC, it's baffling how so many people cant see that he is here to make things happen, and even more baffling that so many people are doubting this because of past failures by entirely different people, there is IMO no connection in pedigree between the present BoD and the past. Its a bit like saying I don't trust the brand new car I just bought because the old car broke down IMO!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 9, 2016 18:45:23 GMT
I too am totally confident that the club under the present stewardship, is heading 110% in the right direction. Let slow but sure be our byword here. But the only thing that sticks in my craw is the fact that after enduring a huge chunk of the past 60 years, that I should miss out on the BRFC Glory Years. Tongue firmly in cheek about the ''enduring'' bit by the way, cos I wouldn't have missed 99% of it for anyone. But you did have the best years at Eastville brizzle. I think it was great in my era. First match 1968 but as a paying supporter from 79. I would give a few toes and a couple of fingers to habe lobes through the mid 50's onwards.
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Post by strung out on Sept 9, 2016 22:05:01 GMT
Hortham Lane is within Almondsbury. Can't help but feel confused as I thought it had been mentioned by WAQ that they wanted the training and academy base to also be in the grounds of UWE? They'd have to bulldoze an awful lot of UWE buildings if they wanted to have a good sized training base on the UWE site.
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 10, 2016 13:43:24 GMT
Hortham Lane is within Almondsbury. Can't help but feel confused as I thought it had been mentioned by WAQ that they wanted the training and academy base to also be in the grounds of UWE? I think you may be confusing what he said mate, he said he wanted a training facility where all the teams can train on one site ie: first team, reserve, youth
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 19:47:41 GMT
Can't help but feel confused as I thought it had been mentioned by WAQ that they wanted the training and academy base to also be in the grounds of UWE? I think you may be confusing what he said mate, he said he wanted a training facility where all the teams can train on one site ie: first team, reserve, youth Easily confused these days Jon, I blame the 90's rave scene and a weak will.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 11, 2016 8:48:14 GMT
I think that this thread fails to acknowledge the positivity of the announcements ref UWE. I was left with no other impression than that we are nearing the end-zone and that there will be announcement soon. The feasibility study for option now decided will take no more than 2 weeks - as confirmed by WAQ. He would not convey such positivity if there were major obstacles. There seems to be no dissenting voices from UWE. You have to have faith in these people. The Points West programme will underline that WAQ is seeking to prove himself to Jordanian society (who may have been sceptical that he is just a rich kid) that he can be a leading light in English football - so a new stadium and training ground will underpin these ambitions. As a Bristolian and standing above the often petty rivalry, I can see a much bigger picture here. Lansdown has now met his match in WAQ and what you will see (IMHO) in next 10 years is probably the most compelling story of development of football (on and off the pitch)in Bristol's entire history. We have some catching up to do first, though. Next major challenge needing WAQ / Hamer revolution: marketing of FC to new breed of supporters, once Stadium has been announced. One step at a time though. Your not alone Vaughan, since day one of Waels arrival I have felt very positive about the long term future of the FC, it's baffling how so many people cant see that he is here to make things happen, and even more baffling that so many people are doubting this because of past failures by entirely different people, there is IMO no connection in pedigree between the present BoD and the past. Its a bit like saying I don't trust the brand new car I just bought because the old car broke down IMO! Once (or twice!) bitten and all that has to make some of sceptical, I'll be more content when Wael actually spends some money, as it's OK saying he consider DC's request for a million striker but all he has signed are a few loan players. Hopefully, in the next month or so he'll actually commit to spending millions on the training ground etc, as at the moment he could still cut his losses and walk at little cost.
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Post by lavalamp on Sept 11, 2016 17:06:40 GMT
Your not alone Vaughan, since day one of Waels arrival I have felt very positive about the long term future of the FC, it's baffling how so many people cant see that he is here to make things happen, and even more baffling that so many people are doubting this because of past failures by entirely different people, there is IMO no connection in pedigree between the present BoD and the past. Its a bit like saying I don't trust the brand new car I just bought because the old car broke down IMO! Once (or twice!) bitten and all that has to make some of sceptical, I'll be more content when Wael actually spends some money, as it's OK saying he consider DC's request for a million striker but all he has signed are a few loan players. Hopefully, in the next month or so he'll actually commit to spending millions on the training ground etc, as at the moment he could still cut his losses and walk at little cost. Wow, someone else who wants Wael to buy a player to make them happy. Let's not bother with wiping out debts, improvements at the Mem, throughly reviewing the UWE site, making progress on a new training ground, who needs infrastructure anyway?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 11, 2016 17:24:21 GMT
Your not alone Vaughan, since day one of Waels arrival I have felt very positive about the long term future of the FC, it's baffling how so many people cant see that he is here to make things happen, and even more baffling that so many people are doubting this because of past failures by entirely different people, there is IMO no connection in pedigree between the present BoD and the past. Its a bit like saying I don't trust the brand new car I just bought because the old car broke down IMO! Once (or twice!) bitten and all that has to make some of sceptical, I'll be more content when Wael actually spends some money, as it's OK saying he consider DC's request for a million striker but all he has signed are a few loan players. Hopefully, in the next month or so he'll actually commit to spending millions on the training ground etc, as at the moment he could still cut his losses and walk at little cost. Nice to see you have your positive head on again Topper
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2016 17:33:14 GMT
Your not alone Vaughan, since day one of Waels arrival I have felt very positive about the long term future of the FC, it's baffling how so many people cant see that he is here to make things happen, and even more baffling that so many people are doubting this because of past failures by entirely different people, there is IMO no connection in pedigree between the present BoD and the past. Its a bit like saying I don't trust the brand new car I just bought because the old car broke down IMO! Once (or twice!) bitten and all that has to make some of sceptical, I'll be more content when Wael actually spends some money, as it's OK saying he consider DC's request for a million striker but all he has signed are a few loan players. Hopefully, in the next month or so he'll actually commit to spending millions on the training ground etc, as at the moment he could still cut his losses and walk at little cost. Could he? Can you tell me what deal he did with Higgs? I've already asked everybody I know and nobody seems to have a clue. I'm totally chilled about UWE and Rovers' future, Wael said on day 1 that things would be done properly, not by throwing cheques around and building a house of cards, these things take time, and what's the rush, we can only possibly get promoted twice more
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 11, 2016 19:49:00 GMT
Once (or twice!) bitten and all that has to make some of sceptical, I'll be more content when Wael actually spends some money, as it's OK saying he consider DC's request for a million striker but all he has signed are a few loan players. Hopefully, in the next month or so he'll actually commit to spending millions on the training ground etc, as at the moment he could still cut his losses and walk at little cost. Could he? Can you tell me what deal he did with Higgs? I've already asked everybody I know and nobody seems to have a clue. I'm totally chilled about UWE and Rovers' future, Wael said on day 1 that things would be done properly, not by throwing cheques around and building a house of cards, these things take time, and what's the rush, we can only possibly get promoted twice more The only information we have is Wael couldn't believe the deal he agreed with NH, I take that to mean he got the club at a knock down price, you sense it was a fire sale by NH as admin was looming once the wonga loan repayment was due. As far as debts being cleared none of us know if they've been paid off or just transferred to Dwane Sports. As I said the next month or so will be interesting, as Wael will have to commit to paying out, or at least guaranteeing, some big payments.
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Post by bs14gas on Sept 11, 2016 22:16:19 GMT
Could he? Can you tell me what deal he did with Higgs? I've already asked everybody I know and nobody seems to have a clue. I'm totally chilled about UWE and Rovers' future, Wael said on day 1 that things would be done properly, not by throwing cheques around and building a house of cards, these things take time, and what's the rush, we can only possibly get promoted twice more The only information we have is Wael couldn't believe the deal he agreed with NH, I take that to mean he got the club at a knock down price, you sense it was a fire sale by NH as admin was looming once the wonga loan repayment was due. As far as debts being cleared none of us know if they've been paid off or just transferred to Dwane Sports. As I said the next month or so will be interesting, as Wael will have to commit to paying out, or at least guaranteeing, some big payments. I heard (second hand) but makes sense, that the sticking point are the terms of the lease, along the lines of we build the stadium in exchange for the land, but the lease is 100 years. Then we are into negotiations!
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