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Post by PeterHooper57 on Feb 22, 2016 2:59:10 GMT
I like the idea of the Rolls Royce site, massive opportunity. Build a tremendous stadium, hotel, shopping complex, a boozer "The Tote", luv it. Or maybe simply redevelop the MEM ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 3:01:03 GMT
I like the idea of the Rolls Royce site, massive opportunity. Build a tremendous stadium, hotel, shopping complex, a boozer "The Tote", luv it. Or maybe simply redevelop the MEM ? Drive past Pete, it's too late.
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Post by faggotygas on Feb 22, 2016 8:44:44 GMT
Potentially those naming rights are worth far more than the value of the land and the new owner is aware of that. Higgs didn't have the money to even try to buy the land but these guys do. It will be interesting to see if Wael can secure the freehold. Buying the Freehold could be a big boost.
But, that would enable loans/debts to be secured on the Stadium which is not possible at the moment.
Everyone will have to take a view on that.
Why do you say that? You can have a charge against a property that sits on leased land - you wouldn't be able to get a mortgage against a flat in a block if you couldn't, they are rarely freehold.
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Feb 22, 2016 22:16:21 GMT
So we've waited eons for this, a wealthy owner prepared to pay off our debt, which I believe he's already done, and now we've got a "my friend knows this, and my friend of a friend knows this" stuff is appearing over these sites like melanomas, we must all try and believe, try and enjoy, talk about our league position and please try and let the new owners do their work!! I will be astounded if there is a better site in north Bristol than a the UWE let alone the thought of us going through another 3/4 years of planning permissions and 106 agreements, and nimby's objecting, with the subsequent legal eagles on here going through the court particular's!!!! I'm sure you're a lovely chat, and you're just enthusiastic, but posts like this get my goat. 1. Who are you to tell people what to talk about? 2. I'm pretty this discussion isn't stopping our new owners from getting on with anything. Look I'm not telling people what to talk about, it's a forum, and I am a nice chap, thanks, but some of the speculation on here has bordered on the laughable, can we not be content that a very rich family have bought our club, which I think was heading for oblivion, and let them get their collective feet under the table before speculations about this and that, we are in a much healthier position than this time last week it's fair to say, but it's just my opinion on a forum that's all!!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 23, 2016 8:36:29 GMT
.....Wael was a core team member of HRH Prince Ali Bin Al Hussein’s successful campaign to be elected as FIFA VP in 2011. Wael is the assistant general manager at Arab Jordan Investment Bank, with over 25 years of managerial experience in banking. He attended Westminster School in London before graduating from Boston University , USA in 1991 with a BA degree major in Computer Science ...... So we got the person with IT skills on the board after all! We have one in Brian Seymour Smith but he was never allowed into the pantry. I now hope he can do his job properly.
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Post by Alveston Gas on Feb 23, 2016 9:09:58 GMT
The only hold up in the uwe project is the new owners wish to buy the freehold,they are committed to the build They should tell Brian then ...& Brian should keep his gob shut or he won't be on the Board for long!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 23, 2016 9:18:17 GMT
They should tell Brian then ...& Brian should keep his gob shut or he won't be on the Board for long! Can I ask why you say that please ? In my dealings with him I have always found him helpful and he has managed to help me on several occasions. I honestly don't get the hostility toward him. He was open about the fact that he could not do his job, to the remit, due to Highs not allowing him to even attend some of the meetings. I've always said that he has to remain so as to see how he can truly represent the SC, when the biggest obstruction was gone. Many said he should have resigned on principle but I have always said that you have to be in the mix to be able to do the job when he is given the opportunity to do anything. Brian has been good as gold with me & I can only speak as I find.
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Post by didlesknowmydad on Feb 28, 2016 14:19:49 GMT
Apart from the original demolition, I'm not aware of any development works underway on the site in question. There is currently some building work (hotel, retail units, etc) further north and on the other side of the A38. That's the site in question, the site which runs alongside Gypsy Patch. Construction work commenced several weeks ago. The construction I'm talking about is on the A38. Have to say I haven't noticed any work on the Gypsy Patch Lane site.
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Post by hillfieldsboy55 on Feb 28, 2016 15:06:08 GMT
That's the site in question, the site which runs alongside Gypsy Patch. Construction work commenced several weeks ago. The construction I'm talking about is on the A38. Have to say I haven't noticed any work on the Gypsy Patch Lane site. Take another look then ground work has started months ago .I drive past it going into Rolls Royce .
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Post by bs5 on Mar 2, 2016 2:31:09 GMT
Clearings few stones that's pretty much it
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Post by pressuredrop on Mar 2, 2016 7:24:10 GMT
I heard that representatives of the board are meeting with the UWE today. The stumbling block is not just the leasehold but what Higgs had agreed to give up - profits from the bars, creche etc all going to the UWE and not BRFC. Understandably the new board want to renegotiate.
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Post by richmace on Mar 2, 2016 8:51:41 GMT
I heard that representatives of the board are meeting with the UWE today. The stumbling block is not just the leasehold but what Higgs had agreed to give up - profits from the bars, creche etc all going to the UWE and not BRFC. Understandably the new board want to renegotiate. It seems to me that if you now have the ability to buy the land outright and then build the stadium then you don't really need the UWE, apart from supplying the land. I think from a community standpoint, having the UWE as a "partner" organisation is a really, really good thing and will be mutually beneficial to both parties. We don't need them as much as we did before the takeover though (from the perspective of the stadium build). Hopefully an agreement will be reached that makes both sides happy, as I said the partnership can only be a good thing.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 2, 2016 9:39:55 GMT
I heard that representatives of the board are meeting with the UWE today. The stumbling block is not just the leasehold but what Higgs had agreed to give up - profits from the bars, creche etc all going to the UWE and not BRFC. Understandably the new board want to renegotiate. Higgs was becoming an increasingly desperate man and I am not at all surprised by this Chris. I think the guy got so entwined with the various legal battles that he would have been prepared to give part ownership away. I have heard, as have many, that plan B was the thing that Lenny vital gas reported. A smaller capacity stadium and us paying rent. I aliken Higgs to Hitler, stop ! Before you go mad, what I mean is that he took on too many fronts to battle on and Sainsburys were his Stalingrad. He just took on too much and lost perspective of the real issue. I am both relieved he is gone but glad he can now hopefully live without the stress and abuse that people like me have been consistently giving him. I stand by that and always will. I hope our new guys can sort this as it would seem the best option to get a ground quickly.
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Post by strung out on Mar 2, 2016 9:52:47 GMT
That's one way to put it I suppose!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 2, 2016 10:01:18 GMT
That's one way to put it I suppose! I did try to explain lol . I actually now now feel some pity for him. It must be very hard to accept defeat and know that you have failed so miserably but, if not for that failure and also the fact that our gates actually went up in the NL season then I feel we wouldn't have been so attractive a proposition. Nick just wasn't able to let go of that male pride, I too struggle with it but I now understand that it has only given me grief. I think that some of the comments by GD, about UWE being his pension and more, didn't bode well for them personally, I don't feel GD deserves the VP that many are asking about but that's just my opinion. He sold NH a dud and it became a worse dud. Between the two of them, they presided over an awful period but. as I said, I do feel pity for NH. It's such a shame that he felt that he had to do it all and his way. Anyway, onwards as the gas go marching on on ON
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Post by severnbeachline on Mar 2, 2016 10:11:52 GMT
I heard that representatives of the board are meeting with the UWE today. The stumbling block is not just the leasehold but what Higgs had agreed to give up - profits from the bars, creche etc all going to the UWE and not BRFC. Understandably the new board want to renegotiate. I aliken Higgs to Hitler lost perspective Yes, terrible when people lose perspective.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 2, 2016 10:13:15 GMT
I aliken Higgs to Hitler lost perspective Yes, terrible when people lose perspective. I bloody knew I would get roasted on this. I hope you read my explanation of that SBL.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Mar 2, 2016 10:18:01 GMT
You'd have been better off using the Roman Empire as an example. It was all over the shop and started eating its own tail in the end.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 2, 2016 10:21:26 GMT
You'd have been better off using the Roman Empire as an example. It was all over the shop and started eating its own tail in the end. I concede that I could have used any number of other things but Stalingrad was the first thing that came to mind. If if mods feel it's inappropriate then I am fine with it deleted.
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Post by clockendgas on Mar 2, 2016 10:21:44 GMT
Yes, terrible when people lose perspective. I bloody knew I would get roasted on this. I hope you read my explanation of that SBL. For you my friend the war is over!!
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