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Post by robblue on Mar 11, 2016 15:49:28 GMT
It's going to be the UWE i've been told .Just some dots and crosses to be done.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 16:47:39 GMT
I see what you have done there with South (East) Bristol. Good public transport links there buses, trains etc? As to the M32 junction anyone coming from North West / Central Bristol would have to negotiate it, so as you admit a big downside there. I personally would go less if in the highly unlikelihood the ground was built in Emersons Green, much like the fact I refuse to work out there as well. And I'm still left wondering when the new junction is going to be built (approved?). As to population you'd need to be scientific & assess where you target markets are across the whole of the city seems a bit small minded to be targetting only 40k of the city's population. Would hope our new owners were aiming higher than that. But overall I'd put Emersons Green ahead of Avonmouth & Over Lane and far behind a UWE or Rolls Royce site. New metrobus from Parkway and from town will have a stop on the park and ride right in the middle of Lyde Green, so pretty good public transport. Not quite as good as UWE, but pretty good.
I reckon a lot more home fans will come from East / South East Bristol than will come from the villages of the North West. Access from Central Bristol would be similar to UWE - 2.6 miles south from the M32, rather than a busier 1.7 miles north. Even without a new M4 junction, road access would not be significantly worse than UWE, and for most home fans, a little bit better. I live in Kingswood and work in Lyde Green, even at rush hour it takes me a reliable 15 minutes, its a piece of cake to get to. When I worked at HP next to UWE, it would often take up to an hour due to traffic.
So - similar road access from central Bristol. Better access from south / east Bristol. Marginally worse access from North Bristol (an extra couple of miles on the ring road, whoo). More parking, with a park and ride next door. Slightly - but only slightly - worse public transport for away fans, but similar, or perhaps even better, for home fans (metrobus vs irregular trains). On 2 cycle routes. A large population close by, but not too close by, crying out for facilities and entertainment. Way more land available, already earmarked for leisure use. And I can walk there from my work!
And that's the last I'm going to say on the matter, its all speculation anyway.
I think you mean it'll be linked by bus to the Metrobus, I.e two buses to get anywhere, I.e a bag of poo?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 16:50:07 GMT
It's going to be the UWE i've been told .Just some dots and crosses to be done. Where have I heard that before?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 16:51:54 GMT
So someone hears from a seconds cousins aunties goldfish that the UWE is dead in the water then, don't believe it for a minute, but hey if its sparks suggestions such as in building a stadium in a field down a single track winding road where a brick factory stands then so be it, am I the only sober person on this forum today?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 16:57:17 GMT
So someone hears from a seconds cousins aunties goldfish that the UWE is dead in the water then, don't believe it for a minute, but hey if its sparks suggestions such as in building a stadium in a field down a single track winding road where a brick factory stands then so be it, am I the only sober person on this forum today? It was actually directly attributable to a member of the board and a few weeks ago too, but no I wasn't sober when I posted it. So what?
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Post by strung out on Mar 11, 2016 17:52:38 GMT
How about a free spot of land I know down at Ashton Vale?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 17:58:36 GMT
So someone hears from a seconds cousins aunties goldfish that the UWE is dead in the water then, don't believe it for a minute, but hey if its sparks suggestions such as in building a stadium in a field down a single track winding road where a brick factory stands then so be it, am I the only sober person on this forum today? Incidentally, your "gut feeling" on the 20th Feb was that the stadium would be built at a different location. Are you sure you didn't believe it for a minute?
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Post by Smithy Gas on Mar 11, 2016 18:47:20 GMT
I see what you have done there with South (East) Bristol. Good public transport links there buses, trains etc? As to the M32 junction anyone coming from North West / Central Bristol would have to negotiate it, so as you admit a big downside there. I personally would go less if in the highly unlikelihood the ground was built in Emersons Green, much like the fact I refuse to work out there as well. And I'm still left wondering when the new junction is going to be built (approved?). As to population you'd need to be scientific & assess where you target markets are across the whole of the city seems a bit small minded to be targetting only 40k of the city's population. Would hope our new owners were aiming higher than that. But overall I'd put Emersons Green ahead of Avonmouth & Over Lane and far behind a UWE or Rolls Royce site. New metrobus from Parkway and from town will have a stop on the park and ride right in the middle of Lyde Green, so pretty good public transport. Not quite as good as UWE, but pretty good.
I reckon a lot more home fans will come from East / South East Bristol than will come from the villages of the North West. Access from Central Bristol would be similar to UWE - 2.6 miles south from the M32, rather than a busier 1.7 miles north. Even without a new M4 junction, road access would not be significantly worse than UWE, and for most home fans, a little bit better. I live in Kingswood and work in Lyde Green, even at rush hour it takes me a reliable 15 minutes, its a piece of cake to get to. When I worked at HP next to UWE, it would often take up to an hour due to traffic.
So - similar road access from central Bristol. Better access from south / east Bristol. Marginally worse access from North Bristol (an extra couple of miles on the ring road, whoo). More parking, with a park and ride next door. Slightly - but only slightly - worse public transport for away fans, but similar, or perhaps even better, for home fans (metrobus vs irregular trains). On 2 cycle routes. A large population close by, but not too close by, crying out for facilities and entertainment. Way more land available, already earmarked for leisure use. And I can walk there from my work!
And that's the last I'm going to say on the matter, its all speculation anyway.
I admire your tenacity to get the stadium built somewhere wonderfully convenient for you, but it isn't convenient for everyone. Bearing in mind it's all speculation and the likelihood that UWE is still going to be built (why wouldn't you score that open goal?) you can't seriously suggest Metrobus is an adequate public transport solution and preferable to access from the centre by trains? As the latvian says, it's two buses to town, and that's if it works. The West of England Partnership are only still building the thing, late and over budget, because they believe they have to prove to the government that they can deliver a project they have received funding for. So once it's built, and running one bus an hour, which isn't separated from other traffic during sections and as such at the mercy of the rest of Bristol traffic, enjoy jumping on it to get to the Mem!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 18:53:13 GMT
So someone hears from a seconds cousins aunties goldfish that the UWE is dead in the water then, don't believe it for a minute, but hey if its sparks suggestions such as in building a stadium in a field down a single track winding road where a brick factory stands then so be it, am I the only sober person on this forum today? It was actually directly attributable to a member of the board and a few weeks ago too, but no I wasn't sober when I posted it. So what? A current board member of integrity or a has been from the old shower, or loose lips from Thornbury?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 18:57:27 GMT
It was actually directly attributable to a member of the board and a few weeks ago too, but no I wasn't sober when I posted it. So what? A current board member of integrity or a has been from the old shower, or loose lips from Thornbury? A current one. Read the thread, its all in there!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 19:40:47 GMT
A current board member of integrity or a has been from the old shower, or loose lips from Thornbury? A current one. Read the thread, its all in there! No need to read the thread, I trust in what the new Chairman has said.
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Post by shineongas on Mar 11, 2016 19:51:17 GMT
What about the old Cattybrook Brick factory site I sometimes walk my dogs around there. Can I apply for village green status?
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Post by didlesknowmydad on Mar 11, 2016 21:27:19 GMT
I don't know why people are wasting their time on this thread making proposals for stadium sites! It's UWE, the chairman's said it's UWE and they're working on getting the car parking finished by September.
They are thrashing out funding arrangements right now. Not sure if that means they've settled for the current plans or whether they're still exploring the possibility of increasing capacity to 30,000, which would need new planning but maybe doesn't prevent the car parking to be provided by September which UWE want (?)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 22:38:36 GMT
they're working on getting the car parking finished by September. They are thrashing out funding arrangements right now. Not sure if that means they've settled for the current plans or whether they're still exploring the possibility of increasing capacity to 30,000, which would need new planning but maybe doesn't prevent the car parking to be provided by September which UWE want (?) I think that's why people are wasting their time on this thread. Everything is either being thrashed out, not sure, settled or exploring and maybe. Nothing is actually happening yet
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 11, 2016 22:56:34 GMT
There's lots of space on some of the hill sides near where I live, I'll ask one of my local councillors if it's a goer
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 11, 2016 22:59:11 GMT
So someone hears from a seconds cousins aunties goldfish that the UWE is dead in the water then, don't believe it for a minute, but hey if its sparks suggestions such as in building a stadium in a field down a single track winding road where a brick factory stands then so be it, am I the only sober person on this forum today? Probably.......
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Post by didlesknowmydad on Mar 12, 2016 10:15:47 GMT
they're working on getting the car parking finished by September. They are thrashing out funding arrangements right now. Not sure if that means they've settled for the current plans or whether they're still exploring the possibility of increasing capacity to 30,000, which would need new planning but maybe doesn't prevent the car parking to be provided by September which UWE want (?) I think that's why people are wasting their time on this thread. Everything is either being thrashed out, not sure, settled or exploring and maybe. Nothing is actually happening yet It is happening. Just that most of us can't see it..
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 12, 2016 12:05:17 GMT
I think that's why people are wasting their time on this thread. Everything is either being thrashed out, not sure, settled or exploring and maybe. Nothing is actually happening yet It is happening. Just that most of us can't see it.. That's spot on. I guess that we are all caught up in the excitement of the takeover that some are impatient to get this going. I will be more than happy with a team that does well right now & to leave the stadium to the professional people that Wael has employed
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Post by faggotygas on Mar 14, 2016 9:43:15 GMT
New metrobus from Parkway and from town will have a stop on the park and ride right in the middle of Lyde Green, so pretty good public transport. Not quite as good as UWE, but pretty good.
I reckon a lot more home fans will come from East / South East Bristol than will come from the villages of the North West. Access from Central Bristol would be similar to UWE - 2.6 miles south from the M32, rather than a busier 1.7 miles north. Even without a new M4 junction, road access would not be significantly worse than UWE, and for most home fans, a little bit better. I live in Kingswood and work in Lyde Green, even at rush hour it takes me a reliable 15 minutes, its a piece of cake to get to. When I worked at HP next to UWE, it would often take up to an hour due to traffic.
So - similar road access from central Bristol. Better access from south / east Bristol. Marginally worse access from North Bristol (an extra couple of miles on the ring road, whoo). More parking, with a park and ride next door. Slightly - but only slightly - worse public transport for away fans, but similar, or perhaps even better, for home fans (metrobus vs irregular trains). On 2 cycle routes. A large population close by, but not too close by, crying out for facilities and entertainment. Way more land available, already earmarked for leisure use. And I can walk there from my work!
And that's the last I'm going to say on the matter, its all speculation anyway.
I think you mean it'll be linked by bus to the Metrobus, I.e two buses to get anywhere, I.e a bag of poo? Ok, couldn't let that go. As far as I know, the plan is to have 2 routes from the Lyde Green P&R to the city centre, the X92 and X93, each running every 20 minutes. No change required. The X93 will be a through route to Hengrove. I does seem to change quite a bit though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 10:07:46 GMT
I think you mean it'll be linked by bus to the Metrobus, I.e two buses to get anywhere, I.e a bag of poo? Ok, couldn't let that go. As far as I know, the plan is to have 2 routes from the Lyde Green P&R to the city centre, the X92 and X93, each running every 20 minutes. No change required. The X93 will be a through route to Hengrove. I does seem to change quite a bit though.
But neither of those services are the Metrobus, which will require a change?
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