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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 13, 2015 13:43:02 GMT
You always dislike opinions that aren't your 'facts'. Did you object to the wolf whistles on Tuesday (of course no need to confront anyone over it), from what people are saying you should've been able to hear them in the Home Counties. Whether anyone stands up for Jo's dignity on Saturday or not (OK the thread has proved it'll be not) I'm sure she'll do a fantastic job. It's actually good to see football catch up with the real world and use female physios, rugby managed it long ago. Perhaps that is why so many people were shocked by Jo's appearance on the pitch. I wasnt there Tuesday, and most definitely would not have confronted anyone over doing it Funnily I was at game recently (league) where I over heard the following. moronic male: "Did you know that club has a female physio? She is cute, I would go every week if she was here (I presumed he had little experience of live females and suffered from small man syndrome) Moronic Female, stood next to him. "What did you say? I looking at the players bums" Funny thing also is that tend to agree with you, the perpetual calling out of racism and sexism devalues the issue. I would totally agree with you if racism and sexism was not sadly so very apparent. Sadly professional sport, and especially football has a long way to go You're not the only one posting on this thread who wasn't there on Tuesday. But yep sexism and racism is rife and largely kept alive by those who pretend to be most offended by it. A perfect example being played out in South African rugby now. Racism having been reinforced under Blair's government and Trevor Phillips will out last my lifetime and we're by far one of the most liberal countries in that regard. Still note to self remember there are 2 levels of offense 1 minor offence which is only worth moaning about on the Internet; and 2 real offence where people actually address the perpetrators of the offence. It is only ever the first on this forum. Remember, remember
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 14:11:20 GMT
Well, a well qualified professional was doing us a favour. That deserves respect and appreciation. She reportedly felt uncomfortable at the reaction of, frankly, in this instance, lesser people. That is cut and dried wrong. Critiquing the people who comment on it seems to be an irrelevant distraction from a simple principle.
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Post by Angas on Aug 13, 2015 17:27:56 GMT
No, not on everyone. But it's a pretty key role don't you think? Then again, that's probably the issue. They'd sooner hope no-one noticed the latest cock up. Now the chap who was trying to set some world record or other - that's far more interesting ... well worth an article. Can't say I read it myself, but I'm sure many were fascinated. Sounds very sexist to me angas, what a poor attitude you have in the 21st century. But that's what we have to live with now women desperate to reinforce sexist attitudes, people from ethnic minorities desperate to reinforce racist attitudes. But hey ho let's all be (black) sheep and follow the flock. But more importantly tell me about this world record attempt? I never read the club website To be honest, when I read people on here objecting to whatever it was they were objecting to (I don't know what came from the terraces, though I did read the comments posted on here) - my first thought was "There'd be none of this fuss if it was a bloke". So yes I agree it does sound sexist. But then I'm pretty sure from past experience of the forum, that at some point even if it was a bloke, there would have been the same responses about him having volunteered to drive all the way up from Devon for every game until the situation was sorted and how we should be grateful to him and not make fun of whatever it is that's being made fun of. For me the point is there's been no mention whatsoever on the official site of this physio stepping into the breach. I think that's pretty poor show for a club that reckons we're all in it together and so often tells us how great the supporters are and how it means so much to the players and manager to know that. Strikes me that those phrases are just empty words they think they have to include every now and again in articles such as the chairman's report. I'm afraid they never strike me as sincere. Just platitudes. The world record article is here - www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/article/the-mem-to-host-first-leg-of-world-record-attempt-2602281.aspx Just something to fill column inches in my opinion. A shame there were none needed filling this week, but hey ho.
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Post by Angas on Aug 13, 2015 17:33:52 GMT
I think you will find the reason no publicity for her temp appointment is because it highlights the problem the Club had by initially recruiting someone who was not suitable and left sharpish...I have spoken to Joanna and she was upset at treatment by some, shall we say "moronic" members of our crowd..as she says herself had a qualified physio not stepped into the breach the Club would have had to postpone the matches and receive league fines for being unable to fulfil the fixture and Northampton Town would have claimed costs. Quite. And I guess the thinking was that if they said nothing, no-one would notice. Sharp bunch, aren't they.
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Post by Angas on Aug 13, 2015 17:42:23 GMT
Another absolutist opinion. At least its consistent You always dislike opinions that aren't your 'facts'. Did you object to the wolf whistles on Tuesday (of course no need to confront anyone over it), from what people are saying you should've been able to hear them in the Home Counties. Whether anyone stands up for Jo's dignity on Saturday or not (OK the thread has proved it'll be not) I'm sure she'll do a fantastic job. It's actually good to see football catch up with the real world and use female physios, rugby managed it long ago. Perhaps that is why so many people were shocked by Jo's appearance on the pitch. So the issue is she got wolf whistled? There must be more to it than that surely. Wasn't there, don't know. But can't see why there'd be this much fuss for just that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 17:51:52 GMT
You always dislike opinions that aren't your 'facts'. Did you object to the wolf whistles on Tuesday (of course no need to confront anyone over it), from what people are saying you should've been able to hear them in the Home Counties. Whether anyone stands up for Jo's dignity on Saturday or not (OK the thread has proved it'll be not) I'm sure she'll do a fantastic job. It's actually good to see football catch up with the real world and use female physios, rugby managed it long ago. Perhaps that is why so many people were shocked by Jo's appearance on the pitch. So the issue is she got wolf whistled? There must be more to it than that surely. Wasn't there, don't know. But can't see why there'd be this much fuss for just that. Where I was stood it was the typical meatheaded request for her to remove the top half of her clothing. And you rarely get that when its a bloke.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 13, 2015 18:16:11 GMT
So the issue is she got wolf whistled? There must be more to it than that surely. Wasn't there, don't know. But can't see why there'd be this much fuss for just that. Where I was stood it was the typical meatheaded request for her to remove the top half of her clothing. And you rarely get that when its a bloke. No need to worry though after this thread all those meatheads will have been well & truly put in their place. They won't have the front to repeat it again
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Post by Angas on Aug 13, 2015 18:18:07 GMT
So the issue is she got wolf whistled? There must be more to it than that surely. Wasn't there, don't know. But can't see why there'd be this much fuss for just that. Where I was stood it was the typical meatheaded request for her to remove the top half of her clothing. And you rarely get that when its a bloke. But isn't that just standard banter? I guess I'm a product of my time, because I don't really see it as an issue. The gist I'd got from the early posts on here was that she wasn't easy on the eye. It sounds as if the truth is quite the opposite. She should be flattered and take it with good humour. Maybe she did, and it's just folk on here making it into something it wasn't. Or maybe you needed to be there, in which case I'm at a disadvantage. Countyground will no doubt say I'm encouraging sexism. I say if you want equality, then you have to stop sticking up for someone just because of their gender. Tricky stuff eh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 18:22:15 GMT
Where I was stood it was the typical meatheaded request for her to remove the top half of her clothing. And you rarely get that when its a bloke. No need to worry though after this thread all those meatheads will have been well & truly put in their place. They won't have the front to repeat it again of course Your cynical attitude promotes the same Nothing authentic to offer
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 13, 2015 18:28:26 GMT
You always dislike opinions that aren't your 'facts'. Did you object to the wolf whistles on Tuesday (of course no need to confront anyone over it), from what people are saying you should've been able to hear them in the Home Counties. Whether anyone stands up for Jo's dignity on Saturday or not (OK the thread has proved it'll be not) I'm sure she'll do a fantastic job. It's actually good to see football catch up with the real world and use female physios, rugby managed it long ago. Perhaps that is why so many people were shocked by Jo's appearance on the pitch. So the issue is she got wolf whistled? There must be more to it than that surely. Wasn't there, don't know. But can't see why there'd be this much fuss for just that. I think it was more the posts were felt to be taking the P and caused some upset. We were asked to remove and have done such
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Post by Angas on Aug 13, 2015 18:40:17 GMT
So the issue is she got wolf whistled? There must be more to it than that surely. Wasn't there, don't know. But can't see why there'd be this much fuss for just that. I think it was more the posts were felt to be taking the P and caused some upset. We were asked to remove and have done such Maybe I missed some. The ones I saw could be taken one of two ways. Either the posters thought she was a stunner, or she was the opposite and they were taking the mick. Anyhow, I'll butt out of the discussion now because I'm clearly not following the plot. (I will say though that I didn't see anyone taking offence at comments about the lead singer of Middle of the Road the other day. Maybe I missed those too.) I still think it would be nice of the club to mention, and thank, the supporter who has volunteered to put themselves out to ensure we can fulfil our fixture commitments until such time as a new physio is employed. Whether that person be Jo or Joe is neither here nor there in my opinion.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 13, 2015 18:50:53 GMT
No need to worry though after this thread all those meatheads will have been well & truly put in their place. They won't have the front to repeat it again of course Your cynical attitude promotes the same Nothing authentic to offer Cynical? Haven't you & others said that you wouldn't actually say anything to someone making offensive comments? But fingers crossed it won't happen again. Won't a bunch of absolute jokers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 19:06:09 GMT
Where I was stood it was the typical meatheaded request for her to remove the top half of her clothing. And you rarely get that when its a bloke. No need to worry though after this thread all those meatheads will have been well & truly put in their place. They won't have the front to repeat it again I doubt that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 19:07:54 GMT
of course Your cynical attitude promotes the same Nothing authentic to offer Cynical? Haven't you & others said that you wouldn't actually say anything to someone making offensive comments? But fingers crossed it won't happen again. Won't a bunch of absolute jokers. No, as far as I can read, just me. Bu, as usual, you miss the point. To confront numbnuts at football grounds, most of whom have had a few drinks, will change nothing. Its the prevailing attitude that counts, and that is in every sphere of life. Its what we do with that which counts. It appears that your cynicism would predicate total inaction on your part, whatever it is your involvement in greater society may be. Its like drinking Brown Ale, home alone.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 13, 2015 19:23:26 GMT
Cynical? Haven't you & others said that you wouldn't actually say anything to someone making offensive comments? But fingers crossed it won't happen again. Won't a bunch of absolute jokers. No, as far as I can read, just me. Bu, as usual, you miss the point. To confront numbnuts at football grounds, most of whom have had a few drinks, will change nothing. Its the prevailing attitude that counts, and that is in every sphere of life. Its what we do with that which counts. It appears that your cynicism would predicate total inaction on your part, whatever it is your involvement in greater society may be. Its like drinking Brown Ale, home alone. Sorry the inaction is on your part (not mine) & the others that won't do anything when they find someones actions offensive, oh sorry you all moan on an internet forum. And the prevailing attitude is to do nothing & keep your head down. Yep I can see the world changing already, give yourself a slap on the back. Don't get the brown ale bit? Have you fallen on hard times and no longer able to afford fine wine?
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