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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jun 30, 2015 8:36:09 GMT
If Sainsburys do pull out, i don't think any investor around the world can ignore that Planning Permission is in place for a 21,000 seater, and the diggers are parked up outside waiting to be let in. This summer has to be now or never for a takeover, i will have a lot more respect for Nick if he sells and lets someone else take the club on, rather than dig his heels in like a squatter. His spell here as chairman has been a disaster, and it's obviously put a dent in his wallet, we will have to wait an see if this story goes anywhere, but the silence throughout June has been interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 8:55:33 GMT
I for one welcome our new American overlords.
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Post by matealotblue on Jun 30, 2015 9:07:40 GMT
Maybe it's me being a bit dull with my grey cells. But if these alleged investors are in the business of making money (I assume that is their core) then why are any of them interested in what is - in their words - a loss making business where it is the common factor in all 72 league clubs. Surely you invest to potentially make money not a nailed on loss making enterprise? Or am I missing something here? It's not as if they are fans of the game/club. It has to be a business decision but not sure how it stacks up.
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Post by lockleazer on Jun 30, 2015 9:12:33 GMT
can it actually be any worse than Nick Higgs reign.... Uwe stad is a great idea but not looking likely , The Mem has a charge on it from a wonga style loan company , a spell in non league.... disaster after disaster for NH.... if Sainsburys win against us the club is fooked anyway so what can the yanks do to make it actually worse than that?
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Post by Igitur on Jun 30, 2015 9:26:19 GMT
Seems to me the title of this thread needs re-writing as Hot Air or Hope or Doom!
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Post by PessimistGas on Jun 30, 2015 9:30:49 GMT
Hedge Fund Nice, good bye club if that happens Why would that be? If they want a return on their investment they aren't going to get it with the club bumming around in League 2.
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Post by Igitur on Jun 30, 2015 9:44:42 GMT
Hedge Fund Nice, good bye club if that happens Why would that be? If they want a return on their investment they aren't going to get it with the club bumming around in League 2. Maybe it's the stadium they want and Rovers will become a sideshow or even tenants?
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Post by dagnogo on Jun 30, 2015 9:47:09 GMT
The club will only own the lease - new owners could not do anything to the stadium and let's face it, who would buy a 20,000 seat stadium in Frenchay anyway?
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Post by darkbluegas on Jun 30, 2015 9:49:32 GMT
Maybe it's me being a bit dull with my grey cells. But if these alleged investors are in the business of making money (I assume that is their core) then why are any of them interested in what is - in their words - a loss making business where it is the common factor in all 72 league clubs. Surely you invest to potentially make money not a nailed on loss making enterprise? Or am I missing something here? It's not as if they are fans of the game/club. It has to be a business decision but not sure how it stacks up. I think you are missing something, it's probably why you and I aren't sat on huge fortunes. Organisations with cash available to spend won't be just thinking will BRFC make me a few quid this year. Many investors are looking for access to a bigger audience, a seat on the football league and the access that buys you. Investors will be looking for a unique selling point, a team that play in red and white called the Robins, nope lots of those around. The Pirates, unique kit in UK football, checkered past passionate fans,...... maybe. A short term loss for investors in us could lead to huge future gains
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 30, 2015 9:55:00 GMT
The club will only own the lease - new owners could not do anything to the stadium and let's face it, who would buy a 20,000 seat stadium in Frenchay anyway? Multi use stadium involving Dogs Speedway Rugby etc just look up what Icon Venues do to single use stadiums
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Post by dagnogo on Jun 30, 2015 9:58:22 GMT
The club will only own the lease - new owners could not do anything to the stadium and let's face it, who would buy a 20,000 seat stadium in Frenchay anyway? Multi use stadium involving Dogs Speedway Rugby etc just look up what Icon Venues do to single use stadiums Greyhound racing won't be worth buying a stadium for, not sure Speedway would either. There's no rugby team to buy it off us, unless Bath grow very tired of their troubles with the Rec.
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Post by PessimistGas on Jun 30, 2015 10:03:47 GMT
Wonder if Icon Venues have been involved in this......... Tease... Either way someone wanted the Post to run with this story today, even though it has been bubbling under the surface for months. I have a feeling that we will know the result of the court case very soon.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 30, 2015 10:06:20 GMT
Multi use stadium involving Dogs Speedway Rugby etc just look up what Icon Venues do to single use stadiums Greyhound racing won't be worth buying a stadium for, not sure Speedway would either. There's no rugby team to buy it off us, unless Bath grow very tired of their troubles with the Rec. the term multi use comes to mind - look up what Icon Venue do....
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Post by Peter Parker on Jun 30, 2015 10:10:29 GMT
Greyhound racing won't be worth buying a stadium for, not sure Speedway would either. There's no rugby team to buy it off us, unless Bath grow very tired of their troubles with the Rec. the term multi use comes to mind - look up what Icon Venue do....
Unless Planning permission is going to be changed what else can happen at UWE stadium apart from Rugby?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 10:17:35 GMT
So the club's 'hidden agenda' through all this pursuit of the Sainsbury's contract is whether or not, in selling up, they can factor into the price that they have an enforceable contract to flog land that's not worth anything like £30 million for £30 million: up goes the asset base; up goes the price. Don't mind us.
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Post by Thatslife on Jun 30, 2015 10:21:35 GMT
IMO. Hedge fund, will see BRFC bought and sold on a whim; although, in the short term it may provide the additional finance to build the new stadium. Bye-Bye family club, hello commodity club, its the future. UTG Bit like Manchester united then.... First thing the new owners of Man U did was transfer all the debt from their other business holdings. They did this because Man U generate cash, as in money in the hand. Very attractive to many companies
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Post by matealotblue on Jun 30, 2015 10:23:40 GMT
Maybe it's me being a bit dull with my grey cells. But if these alleged investors are in the business of making money (I assume that is their core) then why are any of them interested in what is - in their words - a loss making business where it is the common factor in all 72 league clubs. Surely you invest to potentially make money not a nailed on loss making enterprise? Or am I missing something here? It's not as if they are fans of the game/club. It has to be a business decision but not sure how it stacks up. I think you are missing something, it's probably why you and I aren't sat on huge fortunes. Organisations with cash available to spend won't be just thinking will BRFC make me a few quid this year. Many investors are looking for access to a bigger audience, a seat on the football league and the access that buys you. Investors will be looking for a unique selling point, a team that play in red and white called the Robins, nope lots of those around. The Pirates, unique kit in UK football, checkered past passionate fans,...... maybe. A short term loss for investors in us could lead to huge future gains Yep. Certainly ain't sitting on any sort of fortune. But can see the angle you have there. But still retains the concerns in me that once that use has run its course then it is just another redundant asset to dispose of. Business is business but football - and its fans -are run more on emotional than rational basis. We shall see.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 10:37:48 GMT
Hedge Fund Nice, good bye club if that happens There's nothing left (apart from the shirt) of the club that I grew up watching anyway.
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Post by Blue Mist on Jun 30, 2015 11:27:00 GMT
The club will only own the lease - new owners could not do anything to the stadium and let's face it, who would buy a 20,000 seat stadium in Frenchay anyway? Multi use stadium involving Dogs Speedway Rugby etc just look up what Icon Venues do to single use stadiums Thats gonna make for one s**tty playing surface.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jun 30, 2015 11:34:28 GMT
Hedge Fund Nice, good bye club if that happens There's nothing left (apart from the shirt) of the club that I grew up watching anyway. Didn't we play in all white shirts when you were a lad Bamber? But surely it can't be that dismal for you?
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