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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 20:47:17 GMT
How is an individual who doesn't live in the tax regime of the UK avoiding tax...is the whole world liable to pay UK tax FFS! No, but a UK born individual whose main business interests are in the UK, but chooses the convenience of the Channel Islands tax regime is avoiding tax (not evading you'll note - one is legal, one is not). Tax avoidance costs the UK Treasury approx. £35billion a year. Money that UK tax paying individuals like me need to find to make up for the likes of those who can afford to avoid his moral obligation. The good news is that the treasury is set to clamp down on some of the excesses of Crown Dependencies. Really, all in the cause of collecting more from those who contribute more than enough already. Our issue isn't the contributors, its the hangers on and non contributors...too many by far.
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Post by howre on Feb 3, 2015 20:47:45 GMT
Oh come on. He left the country to avoid it. You're just playing silly games. No really not, he doesn't live here, what's the issue? So what if he left the country, can you're really blame anyone for wanting to leave this cesspit? Our tax regimes only remit is to collect enough money to pay for all the non contributors, the public service unions members, the EU, benefits claimants, oversees aid and other often worthless expenditure...what a mess, and it will only get worse. If I had no business commitments here I'd be spending 9 months annually oversees paying tax only on my UK earnings, something I believe SL does along with many others. Thankfully we are allowed to come and go as we please unlike the residents of Eastern Europe who suffered over 50 years of destructive and ruinous socialism after World War 2...anyway we wouldn't be having this debate if SL had ploughed his cash into us, this silly nonsense is all jealousy and bile, grow up. Holy s**t, a Rovers fan who actually talks sense instead of letting our pathetic non existant rivalry get in the way!! Aren't the majority of you lot on the Dole anyhow, fine ones to talk about tax evasion tut tut!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 20:54:49 GMT
but he is not avoiding anything, he doesn't live within UK HMRC jurisdiction, he may as well live China or Poland or Australia, or France or USA, he is only liable to pay tax in the UK on his UK earnings. I suppose next you'll be claiming Ronaldo or Drogba or Pogba or Bale should be paying tax in the UK on top of what they pay in their country of residence, all because they have some connection with the UK...all jealousy anyway.
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Post by laughinggas on Feb 3, 2015 20:57:43 GMT
No really not, he doesn't live here, what's the issue? So what if he left the country, can you're really blame anyone for wanting to leave this cesspit? Our tax regimes only remit is to collect enough money to pay for all the non contributors, the public service unions members, the EU, benefits claimants, oversees aid and other often worthless expenditure...what a mess, and it will only get worse. If I had no business commitments here I'd be spending 9 months annually oversees paying tax only on my UK earnings, something I believe SL does along with many others. Thankfully we are allowed to come and go as we please unlike the residents of Eastern Europe who suffered over 50 years of destructive and ruinous socialism after World War 2...anyway we wouldn't be having this debate if SL had ploughed his cash into us, this silly nonsense is all jealousy and bile, grow up. Alright Nigel. Why 9 months, in my simple mind if you move away you move away.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 20:57:59 GMT
No really not, he doesn't live here, what's the issue? So what if he left the country, can you're really blame anyone for wanting to leave this cesspit? Our tax regimes only remit is to collect enough money to pay for all the non contributors, the public service unions members, the EU, benefits claimants, oversees aid and other often worthless expenditure...what a mess, and it will only get worse. If I had no business commitments here I'd be spending 9 months annually oversees paying tax only on my UK earnings, something I believe SL does along with many others. Thankfully we are allowed to come and go as we please unlike the residents of Eastern Europe who suffered over 50 years of destructive and ruinous socialism after World War 2...anyway we wouldn't be having this debate if SL had ploughed his cash into us, this silly nonsense is all jealousy and bile, grow up. Holy s***, a Rovers fan who actually talks sense instead of letting our pathetic non existant rivalry get in the way!! Aren't the majority of you lot on the Dole anyhow, fine ones to talk about tax evasion tut tut! **** off and stop taking the ****, you'll get me a bad name. Not sure what you're doing on here your grammar, punctuation and spelling is too good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 21:02:11 GMT
Why 9 months, in my simple mind if you move away you move away. No, simply put you get 90 days tax free, excepting your UK earnings, provided you pay full tax in another regime. It is a little more complex but that's it in a nutshell, sorry if you don't like it but most countries subscribe to the practise.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Feb 3, 2015 21:10:09 GMT
Holy s***, a Rovers fan who actually talks sense instead of letting our pathetic non existant rivalry get in the way!! Aren't the majority of you lot on the Dole anyhow, fine ones to talk about tax evasion tut tut! **** off and stop taking the ****, you'll get me a bad name. Not sure what you're doing on here your grammar, punctuation and spelling is too good. You two are like peas in a pod. Or are you actually the same pea?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 21:14:51 GMT
**** off and stop taking the ****, you'll get me a bad name. Not sure what you're doing on here your grammar, punctuation and spelling is too good. You two are like peas in a pod. Or are you actually the same pea? As your grammar and spelling is up to scratch you could join us in the pod, it really isn't crowded.
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Post by laughinggas on Feb 3, 2015 22:10:57 GMT
Why 9 months, in my simple mind if you move away you move away. No, simply put you get 90 days tax free, excepting your UK earnings, provided you pay full tax in another regime. It is a little more complex but that's it in a nutshell, sorry if you don't like it but most countries subscribe to the practise. Really, like I didn't no that. I just don't agree with having you cake and eating it. I have worked in many countries but England is my home and where I want to live and thereby pay my taxes. It educated me, it bought my son into the world, it helps look after my father, thereby I feel I owe it. The rules alow many things, don't make it right. If the 90 day rule did not exist would people still be so keen to move? Hence why I say if you want to leave then leave,, don't try and hang on o being English. MY OPINION.
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Post by aghast on Feb 3, 2015 22:19:39 GMT
No really not, he doesn't live here, what's the issue? So what if he left the country, can you're really blame anyone for wanting to leave this cesspit? Our tax regimes only remit is to collect enough money to pay for all the non contributors, the public service unions members, the EU, benefits claimants, oversees aid and other often worthless expenditure...what a mess, and it will only get worse. If I had no business commitments here I'd be spending 9 months annually oversees paying tax only on my UK earnings, something I believe SL does along with many others. Thankfully we are allowed to come and go as we please unlike the residents of Eastern Europe who suffered over 50 years of destructive and ruinous socialism after World War 2...anyway we wouldn't be having this debate if SL had ploughed his cash into us, this silly nonsense is all jealousy and bile, grow up. Holy s***, a Rovers fan who actually talks sense instead of letting our pathetic non existant rivalry get in the way!! Aren't the majority of you lot on the Dole anyhow, fine ones to talk about tax evasion tut tut! A City fan who posts on here and a UKIP applauder are in total agreement. I think that tells me enough about both to steer clear.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 23:05:32 GMT
No, simply put you get 90 days tax free, excepting your UK earnings, provided you pay full tax in another regime. It is a little more complex but that's it in a nutshell, sorry if you don't like it but most countries subscribe to the practise. Really, like I didn't no that. I just don't agree with having you cake and eating it. I have worked in many countries but England is my home and where I want to live and thereby pay my taxes. It educated me, it bought my son into the world, it helps look after my father, thereby I feel I owe it. The rules alow many things, don't make it right. If the 90 day rule did not exist would people still be so keen to move? Hence why I say if you want to leave then leave,, don't try and hang on o being English. MY OPINION. "Laughinggas" should be "spellingclass" and England didn't educate you very well...and please don't SHOUT. I really don't "no" what you don't "no" but at least you are "alow" to say what you want and have "you cake and eat it, ",," I'll always be English so will SL; where he pays his tax is an issue for him but he can "hang on o being English" because that's what he is in spite of what a semi illiterate chappie like you may wish to write or is it "right" or perhaps "rite"; who knows but I expect you've got a unique alternative.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 23:09:32 GMT
Holy s***, a Rovers fan who actually talks sense instead of letting our pathetic non existant rivalry get in the way!! Aren't the majority of you lot on the Dole anyhow, fine ones to talk about tax evasion tut tut! A City fan who posts on here and a UKIP applauder are in total agreement. I think that tells me enough about both to steer clear. If UKIP refers to me it's false, I'm closer to Marxism believing that everyone should contribute...sadly not the case in this country which allows contributors to be bled dry by those who just do nothing other than take.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Feb 4, 2015 3:01:32 GMT
Why blame SL in all this? His move was prompted by Labour raising higher rate tax to 50%. Perhaps those who don't like a SLs situation should go ask questions of their perspective labour candidate? Who are campaigning on a policy of raising higher rate taxes to 50%, probably a very good time to own property in the Channel Islands. I doubt they will though......
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Post by Captain Jayho on Feb 4, 2015 4:07:26 GMT
You two are like peas in a pod. Or are you actually the same pea? As your grammar and spelling is up to scratch you could join us in the pod, it really isn't crowded. The pod i'm referring to is a bit crowded actually - what with it being redeveloped at the moment. I've never really liked red for some reason anyhow so might give that a miss anyway if it's all the same to you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 7:11:19 GMT
but he is not avoiding anything, he doesn't live within UK HMRC jurisdiction, he may as well live China or Poland or Australia, or France or USA, he is only liable to pay tax in the UK on his UK earnings. I suppose next you'll be claiming Ronaldo or Drogba or Pogba or Bale should be paying tax in the UK on top of what they pay in their country of residence, all because they have some connection with the UK...all jealousy anyway. So he no longer holds a British Passport then ? If he still has one that makes him a British subject - so he is avoiding tax Simple
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 4, 2015 7:33:11 GMT
Actually, I hold a British passport. After all, I was born, bred and brought up in Bristol ! Now I live in Germany, and surprise surprise, I pay my tax in Germany! Unfortunately for me, I get taxed heavier in Germany than I would in the UK, but that's the way it is, those are the rules, and the bottom line is that all tax rules are made by politicians. I'm fed-up with hearing politicians moaning about companies/individuals and their tax arrangements when it's the politicians who make those very same laws. Labour had 13 years in power and didn't change anything. If I hear one more Politician moan about 'tax dodging companies' I swear my teeth will start to itch ! You cannot change Corporation Tax laws while in the Single Market. It really is that simple. Does anyone on here know that Mercedes have not paid a single penny to the German Government in tax for years?
As for a person reducing their tax liabilities it is the responsibility of every single individual to do this. As people we should not just let government take whatever they want from our pay packets. They must justify why they want it and they should use it wisely. Instead we see politicians just wasting our hard earned cash. Make the feckers work for our money, and use their own rules to protect yourself/family/company.
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Post by Teigngas on Feb 4, 2015 7:47:20 GMT
Actually, I hold a British passport. After all, I was born, bred and brought up in Bristol ! Now I live in Germany, and surprise surprise, I pay my tax in Germany! Unfortunately for me, I get taxed heavier in Germany than I would in the UK, but that's the way it is, those are the rules, and the bottom line is that all tax rules are made by politicians. I'm fed-up with hearing politicians moaning about companies/individuals and their tax arrangements when it's the politicians who make those very same laws. Labour had 13 years in power and didn't change anything. If I hear one more Politician moan about 'tax dodging companies' I swear my teeth will start to itch ! You cannot change Corporation Tax laws while in the Single Market. It really is that simple. Does anyone on here know that Mercedes have not paid a single penny to the German Government in tax for years? As for a person reducing their tax liabilities it is the responsibility of every single individual to do this. As people we should not just let government take whatever they want from our pay packets. They must justify why they want it and they should use it wisely. Instead we see politicians just wasting our hard earned cash. Make the feckers work for our money, and use their own rules to protect yourself/family/company. Oooh a sensible post. When did the current affairs section reopen?
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Post by Curly Wurly on Feb 4, 2015 10:49:02 GMT
No, but a UK born individual whose main business interests are in the UK, but chooses the convenience of the Channel Islands tax regime is avoiding tax (not evading you'll note - one is legal, one is not). Tax avoidance costs the UK Treasury approx. £35billion a year. Money that UK tax paying individuals like me need to find to make up for the likes of those who can afford to avoid his moral obligation. The good news is that the treasury is set to clamp down on some of the excesses of Crown Dependencies. Really, all in the cause of collecting more from those who contribute more than enough already. Our issue isn't the contributors, its the hangers on and non contributors...too many by far. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Is monstermonster outed as Jon Lansdown? Jon, if only dad had taken you to Bath........................
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Post by alloutofgas on Feb 4, 2015 17:02:43 GMT
Really, like I didn't no that. I just don't agree with having you cake and eating it. I have worked in many countries but England is my home and where I want to live and thereby pay my taxes. It educated me, it bought my son into the world, it helps look after my father, thereby I feel I owe it. The rules alow many things, don't make it right. If the 90 day rule did not exist would people still be so keen to move? Hence why I say if you want to leave then leave,, don't try and hang on o being English. MY OPINION. "Laughinggas" should be "spellingclass" and England didn't educate you very well...and please don't SHOUT. I really don't "no" what you don't "no" but at least you are "alow" to say what you want and have "you cake and eat it, ",," I'll always be English so will SL; where he pays his tax is an issue for him but he can "hang on o being English" because that's what he is in spite of what a semi illiterate chappie like you may wish to write or is it "right" or perhaps "rite"; who knows but I expect you've got a unique alternative. Bit harsh, could be typing on a phone and have bad eyesight. Just sayin like...
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Feb 4, 2015 18:28:57 GMT
but he is not avoiding anything, he doesn't live within UK HMRC jurisdiction, he may as well live China or Poland or Australia, or France or USA, he is only liable to pay tax in the UK on his UK earnings. I suppose next you'll be claiming Ronaldo or Drogba or Pogba or Bale should be paying tax in the UK on top of what they pay in their country of residence, all because they have some connection with the UK...all jealousy anyway. I imagine he pays tax in the UK!
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