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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 10:48:57 GMT
As for s l met him twice came over sound as . Would I take his Money ? IN A heartbeat
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Post by fanatical on Feb 3, 2015 12:59:46 GMT
Seems a pretty reasoned response to stupid and totally ignorant final sentence. You guys are on fire. As a tax paying Gashead I reserve the right to call a tax avoiding s***head scum. lots of people avoid paying tax (legitably) wherever possible (ask anyone who has an accountant) but not everyone goes as far as to move to do so - but some do and strangely enough it is not a crime
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Post by fanatical on Feb 3, 2015 13:01:52 GMT
Guernsey is a nice place and no doubt a nice place to live. If you work out the financials - the money SL saves in tax by living there is the money he has spare to spend on Bristol Sport. So in other words he is not the one paying for Bristol Sport - WE ARE (the taxpayers of UK) in the money that he no longer pays to HRMC. Jealous NO - give the guy some credit - that is the system and he knows how to play it. Just wish he would pump some of it our way. So if Pantsdown Paid for the UWE and let us play for free with Bristol Rugby, would that make you happy ? I could live with it - it would be better than what we have had to put up with for a long long long time - not sure why you mention Bristol Rugby though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 13:33:19 GMT
You guys are on fire. As a tax paying Gashead I reserve the right to call a tax avoiding s***head scum. lots of people avoid paying tax (legitably) wherever possible (ask anyone who has an accountant) but not everyone goes as far as to move to do so - but some do and strangely enough it is not a crime "I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles. A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug." Good Yate girl our Joanne.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 15:02:43 GMT
So if Pantsdown Paid for the UWE and let us play for free with Bristol Rugby, would that make you happy ? I could live with it - it would be better than what we have had to put up with for a long long long time - not sure why you mention Bristol Rugby though Because he will give the stadium to Bristol Rugby and let us share with them !
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Post by The Gas on Feb 3, 2015 15:13:24 GMT
lots of people avoid paying tax (legitably) wherever possible (ask anyone who has an accountant) but not everyone goes as far as to move to do so - but some do and strangely enough it is not a crime "I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles. A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug." Good Yate girl our Joanne. He pays all the taxes that are due where he resides, are you suggesting he MUST live in the UK? I thought everyone was entitled to live wherever they chose, we do not live in North Korea etc.
I lived in Jersey for five years and saved a small amount on taxes but did not consider myself to be a tax avoiding individual. His main benefit is that there are no inheritance taxes in the Channel Islands.
One other plus, the state pension in the Channel Islands is far higher than in the UK and I love my small pension from the five years there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 16:01:39 GMT
"I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles. A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug." Good Yate girl our Joanne. I lived in Jersey for five years and saved a small amount on taxes but did not consider myself to be a tax avoiding individual. His main benefit is that there are no inheritance taxes in the Channel Islands. We're getting there, he is there to evade tax. All this "the Channel Islands are a lovely place to live" crap spouted by some is outstanding. I'm sure it is a great place to live however let's be honest guys, he's a billionaire and yes he could live anywhere in the world. Going on form though the list of place he probably considered were places where you'd pay under 20% tax. I do understand that there are various reasons people would live there but Lansdowne is only there for the money. #MakingBristolProud indeed.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 3, 2015 16:08:06 GMT
I lived in Jersey for five years and saved a small amount on taxes but did not consider myself to be a tax avoiding individual. His main benefit is that there are no inheritance taxes in the Channel Islands. We're getting there, he is there to evade tax. All this "the Channel Islands are a lovely place to live" crap spouted by some is outstanding. I'm sure it is a great place to live however let's be honest guys, he's a billionaire and yes he could live anywhere in the world. Going on form though the list of place he probably considered were places where you'd pay under 20% tax. I do understand that there are various reasons people would live there but Lansdowne is only there for the money. #MakingBristolProud indeed. I am not wealthy but my parents died and so I had to go through probate. I was stunned that the government can take money from the estates of dead people and then it is the family who pay to sort the probate. If I were in the same situation then I would certainly not want my family to lose out. To see SL admit on made in Bristol that he was Rovers was bittersweet for me as many didn't believe me. I would very happily take his investment rather than be this holier than thou guy who has to see the team he grew up loving, fall apart by the Month. Oh man, how things could have been so different.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 16:12:51 GMT
I lived in Jersey for five years and saved a small amount on taxes but did not consider myself to be a tax avoiding individual. His main benefit is that there are no inheritance taxes in the Channel Islands. We're getting there, he is there to evade tax. All this "the Channel Islands are a lovely place to live" crap spouted by some is outstanding. I'm sure it is a great place to live however let's be honest guys, he's a billionaire and yes he could live anywhere in the world. Going on form though the list of place he probably considered were places where you'd pay under 20% tax. I do understand that there are various reasons people would live there but Lansdowne is only there for the money. #MakingBristolProud indeed. And if i had his money i would p@ss off to another country rather than stay in this dump with the idiots who run it
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Post by Peter Parker on Feb 3, 2015 16:20:13 GMT
“Don’t hate the player, hate the game”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 16:24:49 GMT
“Don’t hate the player, hate the game” ...or hate both? I come from a family where my father could easily play the game but he wants to pay his way. Call that holier than thou if you like but I call it being made of good moral fibre.
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Post by Peter Parker on Feb 3, 2015 17:12:43 GMT
Anyone can think what they like him, the system or whatever. Each to their own, but let’s not make out as if Steve Lansdown either directly or indirectly contributes no tax revenue or benefit to the British economy.
Could he pay more? Maybe. Could he pay less? Probably.
Is it just because it’s Guernsey it’s a problem? Because people see it as tax evasion. if he wanted to retire somewhere warmer and live on a sandy beach with clear blue water and still invest in Bristol Sport would that be ok?
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Post by fanatical on Feb 3, 2015 17:36:48 GMT
“Don’t hate the player, hate the game” ...or hate both? I come from a family where my father could easily play the game but he wants to pay his way. Call that holier than thou if you like but I call it being made of good moral fibre. or jealous
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 17:43:16 GMT
...or hate both? I come from a family where my father could easily play the game but he wants to pay his way. Call that holier than thou if you like but I call it being made of good moral fibre. or jealous What of my father?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 20:01:55 GMT
Seems a pretty reasoned response to stupid and totally ignorant final sentence. You guys are on fire. As a tax paying Gashead I reserve the right to call a tax avoiding s***head scum. How is an individual who doesn't live in the tax regime of the UK avoiding tax...is the whole world liable to pay UK tax FFS!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 3, 2015 20:10:04 GMT
You guys are on fire. As a tax paying Gashead I reserve the right to call a tax avoiding s***head scum. How is an individual who doesn't live in the tax regime of the UK avoiding tax...is the whole world liable to pay UK tax FFS! Oh come on. He left the country to avoid it. You're just playing silly games.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Feb 3, 2015 20:28:08 GMT
You guys are on fire. As a tax paying Gashead I reserve the right to call a tax avoiding s***head scum. How is an individual who doesn't live in the tax regime of the UK avoiding tax...is the whole world liable to pay UK tax FFS! No, but a UK born individual whose main business interests are in the UK, but chooses the convenience of the Channel Islands tax regime is avoiding tax (not evading you'll note - one is legal, one is not). Tax avoidance costs the UK Treasury approx. £35billion a year. Money that UK tax paying individuals like me need to find to make up for the likes of those who can afford to avoid his moral obligation. The good news is that the treasury is set to clamp down on some of the excesses of Crown Dependencies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 20:42:54 GMT
How is an individual who doesn't live in the tax regime of the UK avoiding tax...is the whole world liable to pay UK tax FFS! Oh come on. He left the country to avoid it. You're just playing silly games. No really not, he doesn't live here, what's the issue? So what if he left the country, can you're really blame anyone for wanting to leave this cesspit? Our tax regimes only remit is to collect enough money to pay for all the non contributors, the public service unions members, the EU, benefits claimants, oversees aid and other often worthless expenditure...what a mess, and it will only get worse. If I had no business commitments here I'd be spending 9 months annually oversees paying tax only on my UK earnings, something I believe SL does along with many others. Thankfully we are allowed to come and go as we please unlike the residents of Eastern Europe who suffered over 50 years of destructive and ruinous socialism after World War 2...anyway we wouldn't be having this debate if SL had ploughed his cash into us, this silly nonsense is all jealousy and bile, grow up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 20:44:41 GMT
Oh come on. He left the country to avoid it. You're just playing silly games. No really not, he doesn't live here, what's the issue? So what if he left the country, can you're really blame anyone for wanting to leave this cesspit? Our tax regimes only remit is to collect enough money to pay for all the non contributors, the public service unions members, the EU, benefits claimants, oversees aid and other often worthless expenditure...what a mess, and it will only get worse. If I had no business commitments here I'd be spending 9 months annually oversees paying tax only on my UK earnings, something I believe SL does along with many others. Thankfully we are allowed to come and go as we please unlike the residents of Eastern Europe who suffered over 50 years of destructive and ruinous socialism after World War 2...anyway we wouldn't be having this debate if SL had ploughed his cash into us, this silly nonsense is all jealousy and bile, grow up. Alright Nigel.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 3, 2015 20:46:32 GMT
Oh come on. He left the country to avoid it. You're just playing silly games. No really not, he doesn't live here, what's the issue? So what if he left the country, can you're really blame anyone for wanting to leave this cesspit? Our tax regimes only remit is to collect enough money to pay for all the non contributors, the public service unions members, the EU, benefits claimants, oversees aid and other often worthless expenditure...what a mess, and it will only get worse. If I had no business commitments here I'd be spending 9 months annually oversees paying tax only on my UK earnings, something I believe SL does along with many others. Thankfully we are allowed to come and go as we please unlike the residents of Eastern Europe who suffered over 50 years of destructive and ruinous socialism after World War 2...anyway we wouldn't be having this debate if SL had ploughed his cash into us, this silly nonsense is all jealousy and bile, grow up. Blimey. All I said was he was avoiding paying tax. I never put any moral weight on it. He admitted as much himself. Not sure why you're so keen to deny it, really. Seems a bit odd. Not sure what oppressed east Europeans has to do with it. Not sure what it is I am supposed to grow out of, a fairly conventional definition of 'avoidance?'
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