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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 23:33:13 GMT
You obviously don't know the man. I try and surround myself with decent people, not someone who collects sporting institutes that are under performing. Would you rather they were just left to wither and die, or perhaps get NH involved who can get people's hopes up, invest little and then kill them off and potentially benefit from the sale of assets? I still wish he'd invested £60 mill in us being a Fishponds boy and all that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 23:42:10 GMT
You obviously don't know the man. I try and surround myself with decent people, not someone who collects sporting institutes that are under performing. That confirms it, you don't know the man.
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Post by swissgas on Feb 2, 2015 0:10:42 GMT
Parts of this thread illustrate the great paradoxes which have plagued Rovers over the years. On the one side we are happy with the rag bag volunteer image and proud of the notion that we live within our means as we gain our fun watching a team of "triers" and having a good day out with our mates. We don't want plastic corporatism, "franchising" or God forbid foreign ownership so we support the board who we believe are preserving our traditions. But on the other side we appear delirious with excitement in backing the board and their plan which would effectively destroy many of our traditions. An out of town all seater stadium in which priority is given to corporate hospitality and revenue streams and which has been unashamedly designed to attract a buyer for the club whether they be foreign or British. It sometimes seems we are Luddites who are not sure whether to smash the looms or oil them
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Post by cole on Feb 2, 2015 1:01:10 GMT
Franchise MK Vs Franchise Sports FC next then? Wouldn't want that bloke anywhere near any club I support. Quite amazing nonsense. No comparison between the 82'rs and Franchise MK. If Landsdowne offered to dump 60 million the way of the Gas would you seriously refuse it? If you answer yes then you are seriously deluded and on too much of the wacky backy!!
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Post by DudeLebowski on Feb 2, 2015 7:28:55 GMT
So if you wouldn't welcome Bristol City's majority shareholder into Bristol Rovers tomorrow, with open arms & a huge hard on = Automatic Rose tinter.....
Mannnnn I love this place sometimes!!
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Post by lockleazer on Feb 2, 2015 7:57:26 GMT
Personally , i think Lansdown has been about as sucessful as higgs on field.... £50m spent on football = same league as they were when he started, another large wedge thrown at Bristol RFC who still remain in the same league . On the stadium front he spent more millions on designs and planning for a stadium that wont get built (sounds familar!) and will now spend more millions on a revamp of the ground they remain at. Bristol Sport is a business plan , this is what sport is all about these days. The difference between the sucess of Bristol Sport and Bristol Rovers is ..... MONEY , SL can throw limitless cash at Bristol Sport till it works ,they failed to build a super stadium but he can afford to not sell the gate and perform/pay for the trashton tart up! for higgs Sainsburys wont buy the mem but he doesnt have the cash to build the UWE so we are stuck. On the pitch we massively failed and are having to fight our way back on a tighter budget , Lansdown can thrown 8k a week wages at players like wilbraham and co and Gavin Henson for the RFC. Bristol Sport is a great scheme for financial fair play it means money can be allocated to which ever part of the group is needed to stay within the rules in the same way that citys shirts have been sponsered by Directors of the club recently. SL can do what he likes with Bristol Sport Co and live where he wants i dont like him much as he is keeping the reds alive and kicking but its not his fault the goverment allow him to not pay full tax over here. I dont know the guy but he has earnt his money and can spend it as he so wishes and hopefully that will involve continuing to spend £50m every few years on relative failure before finally getting bored and leaving city in a worse situation than 82! because as it stands the way he is running Bristol Sport at such losses it is actually only going to end in tears (obviuosly his plan is for the business to support itself eventually! )
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Post by Peter Parker on Feb 2, 2015 8:08:40 GMT
So what if he lives in Guernsey. If I had his money, I would probably travel all over the world and have no fixed abode and pay feck all tax probably. Would I be allowed to invest in Rovers under those circumstances?
One thing Lansdown has regardless of his money is a vision for Bristol Sport
There is nothing to stop Bristol Rovers having a realistic vision, a plan or an ethos with our limited funds in comparison to Bristol Sport
But then when have we ever had one of those at BRFC
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Post by droitwichgas on Feb 2, 2015 8:45:08 GMT
UWE was a good enough vision for most of us?
PS Great to see Worcester have gone top of the Champsionship and now are likely to get the easier of the Play off's games!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 9:02:44 GMT
Hardly, there is no way I would consider the UWE site as out of town regardless of any artificial boundaries that exist. If it is out of town show me the gap between Filton and Stoke Gifford etc, it simply does not exist, it is all the same built up area and to the north there is mile after mile of Bristol left before you hit "out of town"
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Post by Peter Parker on Feb 2, 2015 9:08:52 GMT
UWE was a good enough vision for most of us? PS Great to see Worcester have gone top of the Champsionship and now are likely to get the easier of the Play off's games! Apart from building it and being told it would be brilliant, we don't know anything about it
There have always been more questions than answers
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 9:53:25 GMT
People are getting things wondefully confused here. I don't think a club that is funded by one person is a good business plan personally. That's not to say Rovers have a good or any business plan. Spending of money that as a club by yourself you cannot get anywhere near earning back is absolutely moronic. It's short termism at it's finest. I'd rather we didn't compare ourselves to Bristol Sport Football Dept and looked at the likes of Burton, Walsall etc who live well within their means, have success, post profits in good grounds. Just because I think the way City are run stinks, doesn't mean I don't think the way Rovers are run stinks.
Also Lansdowne is scum.
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Post by fanatical on Feb 2, 2015 11:19:09 GMT
As we're not a country that stops its citizens from living where they like I don't get your point, presumably you'd like us to be more like China, Cuba or the pre 90s Eastern European nations where they only way anyone got out was to escape. In regard to tax I would imagine SL will have paid more than his fair share-whatever that is-in income tax, VAT, ctg on his share sales, dividend tax, corporation tax on the profits of the companies he owns and probably worked out that his family would be better off by not paying 40% IHT to the state when he dies. Of course it could all be about Guernsey being a much nicer place to live than Bedminster or Horfield, irrespective his money, his passport, his choice and I'd still swap him for NH today, tomorrow and every other day. It is reported that he is worth £2,390 million, 60% of that should still be enough. If you want to live in a tax haven, then live there. If you are passionate about Bristol Sport then live there. That's my opinion. I don't agree with best of both worlds. Guernsey is a nice place and no doubt a nice place to live. If you work out the financials - the money SL saves in tax by living there is the money he has spare to spend on Bristol Sport. So in other words he is not the one paying for Bristol Sport - WE ARE (the taxpayers of UK) in the money that he no longer pays to HRMC. Jealous NO - give the guy some credit - that is the system and he knows how to play it. Just wish he would pump some of it our way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 15:53:53 GMT
It is reported that he is worth £2,390 million, 60% of that should still be enough. If you want to live in a tax haven, then live there. If you are passionate about Bristol Sport then live there. That's my opinion. I don't agree with best of both worlds. Guernsey is a nice place and no doubt a nice place to live. If you work out the financials - the money SL saves in tax by living there is the money he has spare to spend on Bristol Sport. So in other words he is not the one paying for Bristol Sport - WE ARE (the taxpayers of UK) in the money that he no longer pays to HRMC. Jealous NO - give the guy some credit - that is the system and he knows how to play it. Just wish he would pump some of it our way. So if Pantsdown Paid for the UWE and let us play for free with Bristol Rugby, would that make you happy ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 18:49:49 GMT
People are getting things wondefully confused here. I don't think a club that is funded by one person is a good business plan personally. That's not to say Rovers have a good or any business plan. Spending of money that as a club by yourself you cannot get anywhere near earning back is absolutely moronic. It's short termism at it's finest. I'd rather we didn't compare ourselves to Bristol Sport Football Dept and looked at the likes of Burton, Walsall etc who live well within their means, have success, post profits in good grounds. Just because I think the way City are run stinks, doesn't mean I don't think the way Rovers are run stinks. Also Lansdowne is scum. He knows that you are a dim c*n*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 21:48:31 GMT
People are getting things wondefully confused here. I don't think a club that is funded by one person is a good business plan personally. That's not to say Rovers have a good or any business plan. Spending of money that as a club by yourself you cannot get anywhere near earning back is absolutely moronic. It's short termism at it's finest. I'd rather we didn't compare ourselves to Bristol Sport Football Dept and looked at the likes of Burton, Walsall etc who live well within their means, have success, post profits in good grounds. Just because I think the way City are run stinks, doesn't mean I don't think the way Rovers are run stinks. Also Lansdowne is scum. He knows that you are a dim c*n* Well aren't you just adorable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 22:39:31 GMT
He knows that you are a dim c*n* Well aren't you just adorable. Seems a pretty reasoned response to stupid and totally ignorant final sentence.
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Post by timothyq on Feb 2, 2015 22:42:43 GMT
I don't know you, but I'm quite sure you're the type of person who would fit in nicely amongst a lynch mob, and the sort of person who makes me embarrassed to make eye contact with fans of other sports.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 2, 2015 23:49:26 GMT
Quick quiz..... Only two teams have played at the Millenium Stadium and the new Wembley in the same season. One of them was Chelsea. Who were the other team? Jesus there's some bitter gas on here int there, it just gets better and better for the city and your bitterness makes it all the sweeter. You know what cracks me up about you lot.. When city were getting their new ground at Ashton vale you all came out with the 'city gonna be playing in an identikit stadium with no surrounding pub etc we much prefer a traditional ground.' Now with city rebuilding the gate and your s***ty identikit plan going down the pan what ridiculous half hearted insults you gonna come on with next.. Your an embarrassment chaps. Enjoy the conference True. Feel pretty sheepish
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 1:01:20 GMT
Quick quiz..... Only two teams have played at the Millenium Stadium and the new Wembley in the same season. One of them was Chelsea. Who were the other team? Jesus there's some bitter gas on here int there, it just gets better and better for the city and your bitterness makes it all the sweeter. You know what cracks me up about you lot.. When city were getting their new ground at Ashton vale you all came out with the 'city gonna be playing in an identikit stadium with no surrounding pub etc we much prefer a traditional ground.' Now with city rebuilding the gate and your s***ty identikit plan going down the pan what ridiculous half hearted insults you gonna come on with next.. Your an embarrassment chaps. Enjoy the conference we're an embarressment yet you feel compelled to post on our forum ? id rather be playing on the downs freezing cold and windswept than give 1 second of my time watching the red s**te
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 9:18:42 GMT
Well aren't you just adorable. Seems a pretty reasoned response to stupid and totally ignorant final sentence. You guys are on fire. As a tax paying Gashead I reserve the right to call a tax avoiding s**thead scum.
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