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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 15:46:10 GMT
Surely the Club has now reached the bottom and the ONLY way is up ? Nope....
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Post by swissgas on Jun 7, 2014 15:56:44 GMT
Seems there's now three main forums this one, the "unofficial" one and the gaschat forum, the latter two seem mainly the happy clappy brigade, with the "unofficial" one seemingly struggling already. I think we just need to find the right balance on this one so it comes the dominant forum, as it's already becoming a pain having to check three forums for news updates/gossip/rumours. I think things will level out once the season starts - people will go where there are more people discussing the matches, tactics, signings etc. Until then it's just lots of people talking about the only things we've got - relegation, UWE and the board of directors. That's right Strung Out a lot of people like mdknewgeoffbradford have said they aren't interested in politics so until the season starts they are only left with DC's plans and signings to discuss. I made a few comments about DC's conversation with toteend but only 'Gashead" seemed to want to join in with that. You can only post what you believe and I really don't think DC is saying anything new but that's immediately classed as negative and anti-Rovers. The point I made is that DC is telling us what we want to hear about "young and keen players" and incentive based contracts but it's a story we've heard before from Nick who told us he was going to implement this over a year ago. "Gashead" pointed out that the difference is DC is signing players from the Conference and that's true but it seems to me that's not necessarily solving the problems from last year. Who is to say this time next year we won't be saying "these conference players couldn't cope with the big crowds or playing for a big club went to their heads or the injury crisis was terrible again". Unless we identify the problems and solve them they are going to keep happening and "loyal fans" are going to have to keep finding excuses why it's all bad luck or someone else's fault and not something inherently wrong with the club. In reality the football and politics are closely intertwined and if the " non-political loyal fans" joined with the " political loyal fans" and debated why we are in this position and put public pressure on the board to justify their actions then I think following the football club would be more enjoyable for everyone.
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Jun 7, 2014 16:39:42 GMT
Obviously I can't speak about the entire fan base. I can just speak about what I read on here, this forum. My answer was in your question... "I too feel the majority of this forum is anti-board." And if it is??? Should we all be praising them after our worst run in our entire history? See, it's easy to make a glib statement like that but end of the day you need to examine the WHOLE situation and look at the evidence instead of naively walking around in life expecting the happy clappy brigade to turn up whenever you wish them to. Hooray, the board are marvellous! They've taken us out of the FL, loads of people have lost their jobs, years on no new stadium has been YET delivered. Yay!!! Lets all celebrate like there's no tomorrow! {**Irony Alert**} Steady on, get off that very high horse you seem to be on... All I was doing was answering a question!!! And, IMO from what I've read on here, the majority are anti-board, IMO..!!! Get over it. Am I not allowed to answer any question's on here? Seems very one way doesn't it?
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 7, 2014 17:01:31 GMT
I'm not anti-board & not a tinter either. I'll dish out criticism if it's required, but I'll also defend the board if I feel it's required too. That being said, I too feel the majority of this forum is anti-board. Most fans are anti board, hence this forum !! The other forum tends to be fans who dont like this one. Its also full of people with very thin skin who cant cope with a little banter on here and have to go back and fill the other forum up with bitchy threads about this place.
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Post by Bath Gas on Jun 7, 2014 17:08:30 GMT
I'm not anti-board & not a tinter either. I'll dish out criticism if it's required, but I'll also defend the board if I feel it's required too. That being said, I too feel the majority of this forum is anti-board. Most fans are anti board, hence this forum !! The other forum tends to be fans who dont like this one. Its also full of people with very thin skin who cant cope with a little banter on here and have to go back and fill the other forum up with bitchy threads about this place. Pot - kettle??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 17:11:09 GMT
Yes, does seem that majority are anti-board. Probably because most of us are tired watching them turn Brfc into a laughing stock!
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Post by intheknow on Jun 7, 2014 17:12:24 GMT
And if it is??? Should we all be praising them after our worst run in our entire history? See, it's easy to make a glib statement like that but end of the day you need to examine the WHOLE situation and look at the evidence instead of naively walking around in life expecting the happy clappy brigade to turn up whenever you wish them to. Hooray, the board are marvellous! They've taken us out of the FL, loads of people have lost their jobs, years on no new stadium has been YET delivered. Yay!!! Lets all celebrate like there's no tomorrow! {**Irony Alert**} Steady on, get off that very high horse you seem to be on... All I was doing was answering a question!!! And, IMO from what I've read on here, the majority are anti-board, IMO..!!! Get over it. Am I not allowed to answer any question's on here? Seems very one way doesn't it? Of course this ( old version) has many more anti board posters as most were banned from posting on the old OF at one time or other. The OF was constantly belittled and posters ridiculed for being rose tinted etc ( by some not all !) As more newbies have gravitated to this forum things have started to balance up . A hard core of posters on here will never change their point of view that the board are incompetent , unprofessional , not football people blah blah They're probably right to a point to be fair !!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 17:19:15 GMT
I don't see what the problem is? There is no censorship here, you can post what you like, within the law. If someone wants to post up a statement such as the board have done a great job, been unlucky, have a well defined plan for the future, you can do so
If you get offended by the hoots of derision thereafter, you probably should not be joining in on an internet forum about a football team which means something to a lot of people. You might want to consider Hari Krishna
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 17:31:26 GMT
Hari Krishna LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 17:50:21 GMT
Just this forum or the entire fan base? What?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 17:53:50 GMT
Obviously I can't speak about the entire fan base. I can just speak about what I read on here, this forum. My answer was in your question... "I too feel the majority of this forum is anti-board." well i got the idea this forum was anti-board without a survey as every thread from the "club car boot" to discussing a player turns into an anti-board thread
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Post by Peter Parker on Jun 7, 2014 17:56:03 GMT
I think things will level out once the season starts - people will go where there are more people discussing the matches, tactics, signings etc. Until then it's just lots of people talking about the only things we've got - relegation, UWE and the board of directors. That's right Strung Out a lot of people like mdknewgeoffbradford have said they aren't interested in politics so until the season starts they are only left with DC's plans and signings to discuss. I made a few comments about DC's conversation with toteend but only 'Gashead" seemed to want to join in with that. You can only post what you believe and I really don't think DC is saying anything new but that's immediately classed as negative and anti-Rovers. The point I made is that DC is telling us what we want to hear about "young and keen players" and incentive based contracts but it's a story we've heard before from Nick who told us he was going to implement this over a year ago. "Gashead" pointed out that the difference is DC is signing players from the Conference and that's true but it seems to me that's not necessarily solving the problems from last year. Who is to say this time next year we won't be saying "these conference players couldn't cope with the big crowds or playing for a big club went to their heads or the injury crisis was terrible again". Unless we identify the problems and solve them they are going to keep happening and "loyal fans" are going to have to keep finding excuses why it's all bad luck or someone else's fault and not something inherently wrong with the club. In reality the football and politics are closely intertwined and if the " non-political loyal fans" joined with the " political loyal fans" and debated why we are in this position and put public pressure on the board to justify their actions then I think following the football club would be more enjoyable for everyone. We were having incentive based contracts when relegated to division 4 according to Nick. Maybe the incentive was to get to the conference
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 18:00:01 GMT
Seems there's now three main forums this one, the "unofficial" one and the gaschat forum, the latter two seem mainly the happy clappy brigade, with the "unofficial" one seemingly struggling already. I think we just need to find the right balance on this one so it comes the dominant forum, as it's already becoming a pain having to check three forums for news updates/gossip/rumours. i take your point but it seems a shame to have a thread say about the abiilty or otherwise or otherwise of say a rovers player or a possible signing and see the whole thread drown in anti-board posts,i like discussing football but not politics
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Post by Peter Parker on Jun 7, 2014 18:00:15 GMT
Obviously I can't speak about the entire fan base. I can just speak about what I read on here, this forum. My answer was in your question... "I too feel the majority of this forum is anti-board." well i got the idea this forum was anti-board without a survey as every thread from the "club car boot" to discussing a player turns into an anti-board thread What would you lile to talk about? Signings? Only had one Expectations for the season? Perso ally i dont have any but finish safe The club themselves are reviewing their s**t peformance. So i am notsure what there is to talk about
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Post by Bridgeman on Jun 7, 2014 18:01:35 GMT
It's a strange one this. Being the largest of the forums doesn't necessarily mean we are the most balanced, although you could debate there are more individuals to have differing views, however does it really matter. I think it's an extremely well run forum and feels a good place to be with a good variety of posts and differing opinions. Being a regular user of the now closed Official Forum I have noticed there is a huge increase in the number of guests on this forum (i.e. people not registered but just accessing the site) in comparison to the former OF. Other than notable events happening at the club rarely did you get over 500 guests on the OF, on this one there are regularly in excess of 2,000 (I have a reasonable memory for stats). Can one assume the content of this forum is generating that increased interest ? I would prefer if we didn't have the other forums, that we could just have one where we would all be prepared to tolerate one another but that's unlikely to happen particulary where those who have created the other forums have invested a lot of time in creating them and wouldn't easily want to merge with another one and I understand that. I don't think the other one's are actually 'happy clappy', certainly one was created because the creator's preference was towards just discussing 'all things Rovers' without the content of critical posts. I must admit having viewed that forum many of their thread titles aren't that dissimilar to ours.
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Post by strung out on Jun 7, 2014 18:08:52 GMT
Seems there's now three main forums this one, the "unofficial" one and the gaschat forum, the latter two seem mainly the happy clappy brigade, with the "unofficial" one seemingly struggling already. I think we just need to find the right balance on this one so it comes the dominant forum, as it's already becoming a pain having to check three forums for news updates/gossip/rumours. i take your point but it seems a shame to have a thread say about the abiilty or otherwise or otherwise of say a rovers player or a possible signing and see the whole thread drown in anti-board posts,i like discussing football but not politics The thread announcing Jamie White as a signing didn't have a single board bashing comment. In fact the only comment that talked about the way the club was run said that it was good to have some positive news about the club!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 18:09:46 GMT
i suppose the root of the problem regarding "balanced opinion" is massive dissapointment and anger at failure,but i have to believe we can have a good season next year and i think we will,,i find it hard to blame the board for everything buckle and mcghee got some very poor players in but the board have to back the managers choice of players or they may as well manage the team themselves??
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Jun 7, 2014 18:10:57 GMT
It's a strange one this. Being the largest of the forums doesn't necessarily mean we are the most balanced, although you could debate there are more individuals to have differing views, however does it really matter. I think it's an extremely well run forum and feels a good place to be with a good variety of posts and differing opinions. Being a regular user of the now closed Official Forum I have noticed there is a huge increase in the number of guests on this forum (i.e. people not registered but just accessing the site) in comparison to the former OF. Other than notable events happening at the club rarely did you get over 500 guests on the OF, on this one there are regularly in excess of 2,000 (I have a reasonable memory for stats). Can one assume the content of this forum is generating that increased interest ? I would prefer if we didn't have the other forums, that we could just have one where we would all be prepared to tolerate one another but that's unlikely to happen particulary where those who have created the other forums have invested a lot of time in creating them and wouldn't easily want to merge with another one and I understand that. I don't think the other one's are actually 'happy clappy', certainly one was created because the creator's preference was towards just discussing 'all things Rovers' without the content of critical posts. I must admit having viewed that forum many of their thread titles aren't that dissimilar to ours. TBF talking about 2000+ guests on here is based over 24 hours. On the OF the guests were based over 15 mins. So just a slight difference.... So IMO this forum isn't generating more interest per se, just higher numbers due to a longer period of time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 18:11:38 GMT
i take your point but it seems a shame to have a thread say about the abiilty or otherwise or otherwise of say a rovers player or a possible signing and see the whole thread drown in anti-board posts,i like discussing football but not politics The thread announcing Jamie White as a signing didn't have a single board bashing comment. In fact the only comment that talked about the way the club was run said that it was good to have some positive news about the club! your right i enjoyed that thread as we were discussing the merits of the signing with varous opinions and concerns
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Post by Bridgeman on Jun 7, 2014 18:26:20 GMT
One assumes if the Official Forum was closed by the Board, they classed it as 'anti-board' too. What does anti board mean, we'll all have our differing views but just because we are critical of the action or lack of action by the board that has led to our relegation does that mean as others have expressed we are anti board or are we just expressing our frustration that we now find ourselves playing non league football. There was a long thread on the old Official Forum where many of us were showing our support of 'our' club by announcing "My name is (insert user name) and I support non league Bristol Rovers". Were we anti board by expressing that view, who knows but shortly after the forum was closed without warning.
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